R179 Discussion Thread

[Lawrence St]

We need all the non 50 year old cars we can get, both trains can give up their 46 and 68 cars for the L shuttle temp.

[RailRunRob]

2 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

We need all the non 50 year old cars we can get, both trains can give up their 46 and 68 cars for the L shuttle temp.

How many cars in total? 6 cars on the FAS  and one full train for the RPS   Not gaining all that much.

[Jemorie]

4 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

We need all the non 50 year old cars we can get, both trains can give up their 46 and 68 cars for the L shuttle temp.

You’re a joke lol. The Franklin Avenue Shuttle’s R68s are all in two-car sets. They are not going to run anywhere else. The Rockaway  is keeping its R46s as well.

[Lawrence St]

Wow, way to be rude to someone who is giving an idea.

And what's your point? We have R46 sets that are linked as A-A-A-A, the does need all the R46 cars it has. It can deal with 32's just fine.

[Gong Gahou]

5 minutes ago, RailRunRob said:

How many cars in total? 6 cars on the FAS  and one full train for the RPS   Not gaining all that much.

It's actually nine; the car numbers are 2916-2924.

12 minutes ago, Jemorie said:

The Franklin Avenue Shuttle’s R68s are all in two-car sets.

Unless there were cost-cutting measures taken recently, they should still be in singles.

[RailRunRob]

12 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Wow, way to be rude to someone who is giving an idea.

And what's your point? We have R46 sets that are linked as A-A-A-A, the does need all the R46 cars it has. It can deal with 32's just fine.

It could create some oddities 4 x 75 foot cars = 5 car configs not possible with R32 and married pairs.. Is that line set up to deal with different conductor positions? Not sure of that side of the operations but is it really worth it for one 8 car train in return?

Edited January 16, 2018 by RailRunRob

[RailRunRob]

4 minutes ago, Gong Gahou said:

Unless there were cost-cutting measures taken recently, they should still be in singles.

Logically it would make sense to keep these cars singles for flexibility. Or at least in my mind.  

[MysteriousBtrain]

42 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Wow, way to be rude to someone who is giving an idea.

And what's your point? We have R46 sets that are linked as A-A-A-A, the does need all the R46 cars it has. It can deal with 32's just fine.

Do you even know what a shuttle train is and uses? And don't bring up the R42s on the Shuttle because that is different.

[LGA Link N Train]

Since I see that we are talking about the R32's (again) and where to assign them. I'd still like to bring up the fact that by the time ALL R179's are in service. The MTA does not plan to keep ALL of their R32's and I'm unsure of the R42'same since the R179's are supposed to replace that too. Did the plans Change?

[Art Vandelay]

3 hours ago, Jemorie said:

You’re a joke lol. The Franklin Avenue Shuttle’s R68s are all in two-car sets. They are not going to run anywhere else. The Rockaway  is keeping its R46s as well.

The Franklin R68s are all singles. 

(I don't disagree with your main point.)

[R42N]

Well, I’m going to step away from the Transit Forums for a little while. I thought Lance did a good job pulling the reigns in when he closed that “Lounge” and the Canarsie thread, which was being a hostile digest from every perspective, and now a thread talking about a new train (which just had it’s first production set enter service) is swamped with theories  on R32’s moving around, again. 

To make matters worse, Fiorello N Train, who apologized on “behalf” of the forums for the mockery yesterday, says, “well, I see we are talking about this, so let me take back my apology and throw in my two cents again”. 

There is some truly fantastic content here by some brilliant minds, young and old, but this is getting out of control, and I don’t want waste time reading this anymore. 

[Coney Island Av]

16 minutes ago, R42N said:

Well, I’m going to step away from the Transit Forums for a little while. I thought Lance did a good job pulling the reigns in when he closed that “Lounge” and the Canarsie thread, which was being a hostile digest from every perspective, and now a thread talking about a new train (which just had it’s first production set enter service) is swamped with theories  on R32’s moving around, again. 

To make matters worse, Fiorello N Train, who apologized on “behalf” of the forums for the mockery yesterday, says, “well, I see we are talking about this, so let me take back my apology and throw in my two cents again”. 

There is some truly fantastic content here by some brilliant minds, young and old, but this is getting out of control, and I don’t want waste time reading this anymore. 

I understand...these foamers just take this R32 assignments to another level, when it's just a train. Be grateful you even get to ride the R32's ANYWHERE, as they'll be retired after the shutdown. I'm gonna stay out of this "R32  and  thingy" until all of us can calm down. 

For how long will you be gone? We'll miss you. 

Well ppl blamed @LGA Link N train for causing the whole mess of the "parody, memes, and other crap" because he bumped it. Ppl just need to stop this garbage over R32s. 

Edited January 16, 2018 by D to 96 St

[Bill from Maspeth]

4 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Why not put the R32's on the Franklin Shuttle/Rockaway Shuttle and move the 46 and 68's off of their?

Those lines are OPTO, meaning one person train operation. There is no conductor on these lines.  They need full width cabs so the train operator can operate the doors on his left side.  R32's do not have full width cabs.  

[Jemorie]

45 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

The Franklin R68s are all singles. 

(I don't disagree with your main point.)

Ah, I see. Thanks. And no problem.

[Jemorie]

13 minutes ago, D to 96 St said:

I understand...these foamers just take this R32 assignments to another level, when it's just a train. Be grateful you even get to ride the R32's ANYWHERE, as they'll be retired after the shutdown. I'm gonna stay out of this "R32  and  thingy" until all of us can calm down.

I don’t know who are you referring to with the typical word “foamer” that you often use over and over, but I also literally said the same thing in my most recent post. And, if anything, you should also apply this to yourself as well and speak for yourself while you’re at it. For example, the “we’ll miss you” comment should be rephrased to “I’ll miss you” instead. The way you came  off repeatedly venting on those, myself included, who just didn’t agree with you about DJ Hammers was atrocious. That’s all I gotta say.

[Coney Island Av]

1 minute ago, Jemorie said:

I don’t know who are you referring to with the typical word “foamer” that you often use over and over, but I also literally said the same thing in my most recent post. And, if anything, you should also apply this to yourself as well and speak for yourself while you’re at it. For example, the “we’ll miss you” comment should be rephrased to “I’ll miss you” instead. The way you came  off repeatedly venting on those, myself included, who just didn’t agree with you about DJ Hammers was atrocious. That’s all I gotta say.

When I mean by foamer, it means people just keep arguing about R32's endlessly EVEN after credible sources came in and provided us with info. 

And yes this "parody" was stupid, I CALLED IT STUPID for a reason. But all I gotta say is why even bother anymore? If no one can make a point, if we keep discussing, we just get divided after all of this. Even after I say, let's just stop and move on, it's still debated over R32's for NO reason. 

[Lawrence St]

I know what a shuttle is and what they use, I ride them everyday. I'm just trying to give my idea is all.

[subwaycommuter1983]

17 minutes ago, D to 96 St said:

When I mean by foamer, it means people just keep arguing about R32's endlessly EVEN after credible sources came in and provided us with info. 

And yes this "parody" was stupid, I CALLED IT STUPID for a reason. But all I gotta say is why even bother anymore? If no one can make a point, if we keep discussing, we just get divided after all of this. Even after I say, let's just stop and move on, it's still debated over R32's for NO reason. 

Obviously,  not everyone here agrees with the  MTA in terms of subway cars assignments.

However,  We all need to be respectful of each other's opinion whether we agree or disagree.

It's not our fault that the MTA can't keep up with providing adequate service in times were ridership is growing and subway fares are going up. The r179's mess is an example of the inefficiencies of the MTA.

[Jemorie]

24 minutes ago, D to 96 St said:

When I mean by foamer, it means people just keep arguing about R32's endlessly EVEN after credible sources came in and provided us with info. 

And yes this "parody" was stupid, I CALLED IT STUPID for a reason. But all I gotta say is why even bother anymore? If no one can make a point, if we keep discussing, we just get divided after all of this. Even after I say, let's just stop and move on, it's still debated over R32's for NO reason. 

Lol, Lawrence St posted an idea and several people including me disagreed and gave actual facts of why his idea won’t really work out. Don’t see the issue with disagreeing as long as it’s done generally constructive. You’re acting overly dramatic for no reason lol. Step away from the forums for a little while and let us continue to rationally talk about the effects of how the R179s along with the  shutdown will impact riders and their line’s equipment.

[Coney Island Av]

Oh and also, I wrote that "parody" NOT because @Jemorie, @R32 3838, and Bill disagreed. I wrote it because ya'll wouldn't trust @Dj Hammers despite his credibility. Just as how the villagers didn't trust the shepherd. 

[MysteriousBtrain]

Do we have to lock this thread too? Goddamn just let this thing die already. Whether or not DJ posts certain assignments dosen't mean it will actually happen. MTA is known to change assignments, especially with recent bus assignments for those that pay attention to that side of the forums. 

[Coney Island Av]

7 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Do we have to lock this thread too? Goddamn just let this thing die already. Whether or not DJ posts certain assignments dosen't mean it will actually happen. MTA is known to change assignments, especially with recent bus assignments for those that pay attention to that side of the forums. 

Things can change, yes, but for the 1,000,000th time, we heard about the R46/R32  swap a year back. 

However, I do agree we should just move on and let this R32 nonsense die out. I don't want this thread to be locked. What's next, the R32 Fleet Swap Thread?! 

And I also understand opinions, but all that is immaterial when I explained the reasoning behind my "parody" above. 

[Fan Railer]

All this pointless bickering and debating aside, 3096 & 3097 are being delivered tonight.

[LTA1992]

Wow. I leave for a week and the thread devolves into this. 

Anywho, I've noticed an issue on one kg the sets. Forget which one, but as of a couple days ago I think it was resolved. 

The issue was when the conductor would open the doors. Except, the doors would not open yet the indicator lights would be on and announcements would play. The first couple times, it took the conductor a couple minutes to figure it out. Other times, the motorman had to let the conductor know. 

It happened four times before they finally took the train out if service around 7.

Though the next time it ran, the issue didn't occur as far as I know. Just thought I'd point that out. Otherwise, I still prefer them over R160s. The FINDs almost make me think I don't need new glasses lol. 

[subwaycommuter1983]

1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

Obviously,  not everyone here agrees with the  MTA in terms of subway cars assignments.

However,  We all need to be respectful of each other's opinion whether we agree or disagree.

It's not our fault that the MTA can't keep up with providing adequate service in times were ridership is growing and subway fares are going up. The r179's mess is an example of the inefficiencies of the MTA.

Guys!! Please stop fighting!! We don't want this thread to be closed.