LGA Link N Train Posted January 21, 2018 Share #4926 Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, quadcorder said: What do you do with the extra A cars? Married couples like the R32. But here's the MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION. What do you do with the extra B cars? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted January 21, 2018 Share #4927 Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said: Married couples like the R32. But here's the MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION. What do you do with the extra B cars? That's what you use to make the 5-car trains in the first place... You already had 8 5-car sets to start. 260 cars in 65 4-car sets is 130 A cars and 130 B cars. Take 120 B cars and 80 A cars -> 40 more 5-car sets. You have 90 A cars and 10 B cars left. Take 10 A cars and 10 B cars and make 5 4-car sets. Then take the remaining 80 A cars and make 40 2-car sets which can be used for either 8-car or 10-car trains. Now you have: 48 5-car sets 5 4-car sets 40 2-car sets which can be arranged as 24-32 10-car trains 2.5-12.5 8-car trains If you want more than 12.5 8-car trains you can just convert fewer trains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted January 21, 2018 Share #4928 Posted January 21, 2018 Great, we have a surplus of 8-car NTT’s! I can see them making a statement and assigning the 8-car sets to the anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4929 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, VIP said: Great, we have a surplus of 8-car NTT’s! I can see them making a statement and assigning the 8-car sets to the anyway. That was the original plan. Plus, there are not enough r46s to run on both the A and C trains. Therefore It's going to be difficult and not feasible to make the C trains all full length The C might also keep some r160s as well. Edited January 22, 2018 by subwaycommuter1983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4930 Posted January 22, 2018 A requires 40 trains. C requires 17 trains. That is 57 trains total. There are 93 and 3/4 trains worth of R46s. Yes, there are enough R46s to fully run the A and C. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4931 Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Art Vandelay said: A requires 40 trains. C requires 17 trains. That is 57 trains total. There are 93 and 3/4 trains worth of R46s. Yes, there are enough R46s to fully run the A and C. The actually uses 18 trains during the AM Rush. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4932 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Daniel The Cool said: The actually uses 18 trains during the AM Rush. That is correct, but in the AM rush the A only uses 38 trains, so the total at that time is 56. That C becomes an A for the PM rush, so it is included in the total I listed. I used the PM totals as they are one train greater. Edited January 22, 2018 by Art Vandelay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4933 Posted January 22, 2018 7 hours ago, quadcorder said: What do you do with the extra A cars? It's pretty easy. Make them into "married pairs" and two together to make a 4-car set(s) for the Eastern Division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4934 Posted January 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said: A requires 40 trains. C requires 17 trains. That is 57 trains total. There are 93 and 3/4 trains worth of R46s. Yes, there are enough R46s to fully run the A and C. Yeah but what are you going to put on the ? Once you take the 7 R46s from the F the only ones you can take are from the . This goes back to the central dilemma at hand... not enough 600-foot trains without some rearrangement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4935 Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, U-BahnNYC said: It's pretty easy. Make them into "married pairs" and two together to make a 4-car set(s) for the Eastern Division. Um, you can't do that... with NTTs you need at least one B car, because only they have air and auxiliary power for the whole set. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4936 Posted January 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, U-BahnNYC said: It's pretty easy. Make them into "married pairs" and two together to make a 4-car set(s) for the Eastern Division. IINM A cars can only be coupled to B cars. Married pairs can't be created of NTT cars. 17 minutes ago, U-BahnNYC said: Yeah but what are you going to put on the ? Once you take the 7 R46s from the F the only ones you can take are from the . This goes back to the central dilemma at hand... not enough 600-foot trains without some rearrangement. R gets R160s from Coney Island. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4937 Posted January 22, 2018 10 hours ago, U-BahnNYC said: Let's just wait and see what's said tomorrow at the meeting. If I'm not mistaken, we should hear some public info (if not get a clue?) about car assignments pre-L shutdown? If you mean the January 22, 2018 CPOC meeting, there is no assignment data within, nor is the contract info completely up-to-date. There are a couple of photos but the closest mention of an assignment is: "R179 train operating on Jamaica Line (JZ)." In particular you'll notice (under Project Details) there's no accounting for the contract performance mitigation due MTA for the R-179's huge delays. FWIW I would suggest such information might still be subject to negotiation and therefore proprietary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4938 Posted January 22, 2018 3 hours ago, VIP said: Great, we have a surplus of 8-car NTT’s! I can see them making a statement and assigning the 8-car sets to the anyway. Or they can skip over the (again) and assign the remaining 8-car sets to the . Then thru a few car and yard shuffles, the and gets all R46s and 600 foot trains. 124 cars assigned to the and 136 to the to allow for an appropriate spare factor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4939 Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Art Vandelay said: R gets R160s from Coney Island. Then what goes in the place of the R160s, presumably taken from the ? Can't put R32s there, so I'm guessing the has enough R68s by that logic? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4940 Posted January 22, 2018 Put the R32s on the B, move R68s over to the N/Q/W, move R160s over to Jamaica. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4941 Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Art Vandelay said: Put the R32s on the B, move R68s over to the N/Q/W, move R160s over to Jamaica. That could work (without touching that Montague issue again, which, I hope, is a non-issue). It's probably the easiest swap possible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4942 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Weird story. This morning I saw R179 set 3065-3062 with 3066-3069 on my way to school. I leave early because It's regents week and I'm not taking the regents so I wait for the train at Norwood and BOOM I'm currently inside of R179 set 3065-3062/3066-3069 And there's something wrong with the LCD. Edited January 22, 2018 by LGA Link N train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay85 Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4943 Posted January 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Art Vandelay said: That is correct, but in the AM rush the A only uses 38 trains, so the total at that time is 56. That C becomes an A for the PM rush, so it is included in the total I listed. I used the PM totals as they are one train greater. I do believe that some of 4car sets of R179 was modify and changed to 5car sets the ones that wasn't built yet, it makes sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4944 Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said: Weird story. This morning I saw R179 set 3065-3062 with 3066-3069 on my way to school. I leave early because It's regents week and I'm not taking the regents so I wait for the train at Norwood and BOOM I'm currently inside of R179 set 3065-3062/3066-3069 And there's something wrong with the LCD. It's on the (B)(D)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4945 Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, DaTransitMan4608 said: It's on the (B)(D)? Norwood Avenue on the Jamaica line, presumably. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4946 Posted January 22, 2018 44 minutes ago, DaTransitMan4608 said: It's on the (B)(D)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockawayLcl Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4947 Posted January 22, 2018 I might be a bit late to the party but today I finally got to see two different sets of R179s on the Jamaica Line, today was the first time I had seen it on the line. I always wanted it to be on the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4948 Posted January 22, 2018 I posted this in a separate post but might as well include it here too: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4949 Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, JayJay85 said: I do believe that some of 4car sets of R179 was modify and changed to 5car sets the ones that wasn't built yet, it makes sense. I made some calculations and this may be the possible outcome of the r179's if the rumors are true. 5 car sets=18 trains=180 cars 4 car sets=15 trains=120 cars Total= 300 cars Those 15 8-car trains plus the 8-car r160s that are currently on the C, J, Z will be enough for the J, Z and possibly the M. Those 18 10-car trains can go to the A, or the C or both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 22, 2018 Share #4950 Posted January 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: I made some calculations and this may be the possible outcome of the r179's if the rumors are true. 5 car sets=18 trains=180 cars 4 car sets=15 trains=120 cars Total= 300 cars Those 15 8-car trains plus the 8-car r160s that are currently on the C, J, Z will be enough for the J, Z and possibly the M. Those 18 10-car trains can go to the A, or the C or both. It was just confirmed earlier that the rumor was false, but I feel as if the should still consider to recouple a couple sets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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