Dj Hammers Posted March 11, 2018 Share #5326 Posted March 11, 2018 22 hours ago, m2fwannabe said: Not many alternatives in that regard, but the R-179 contingent is more akin to a fixed quantity than a specific number group. Cars can always be numerically regrouped (in sequence) later on. Do you recall the "nonsense" (far from consecutive) initial assignments of the R-142's between and before 2002? By my count, there are so far 36 of the East New York group delivered (3058-69, 3078-3101). Pilots 3050-57 still (likely) require a lot of post-production mods before release for burn-in so are not part of this count. Should be upwards of 20 or so more R-179's to arrive before ENY's allocation fills out. There are a few possible car assignments dependent on certain factors. Can’t say much more at this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 11, 2018 Share #5327 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 7:59 PM, m2fwannabe said: NYS or New York CITY? New York City 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 11, 2018 Share #5328 Posted March 11, 2018 What mods? I thought they do that on the first pilot set and then they just put the rest of the sets through the normal burn in test process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted March 11, 2018 Share #5329 Posted March 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Lawrence St said: What mods? I thought they do that on the first pilot set and then they just put the rest of the sets through the normal burn in test process. The R179 project is such a mess that 3010-3019 and 3050-3057, the first sets delivered, had issues that were resolved when the production sets were delivered. In particular, 3010-3019 has been a problem child from the get-go. Half of the set lost power (I forget which half) and was MIA for quite a bit. This was part of the accelerated delivery schedule: build the first production cars while the pilot cars were testing here, and work out the issues on the fly. Of course, even that didn't go smoothly knowing Bombardier's recent performance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted March 15, 2018 Share #5330 Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/3/2018 at 9:53 PM, Around the Horn said: Has anyone in the know heard anything about a March 17th debut for the 10 car set or are people taking out of their asses again? Just wanted to follow up on this... will it be running this weekend or will the foamers have to wait a little longer? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 15, 2018 Share #5331 Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said: Just wanted to follow up on this... will it be running this weekend or will the foamers have to wait a little longer? I would assume longer however no one has specifically said its not happening... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted March 16, 2018 Share #5332 Posted March 16, 2018 And watch there be that one group that goes hunting all day for it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 16, 2018 Share #5333 Posted March 16, 2018 Well last time wasn’t there a bulletin that was sent out the day before about 3058-3065 being in revenue? So if anyone recieves that then we would know it officially goes into revenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted March 16, 2018 Share #5334 Posted March 16, 2018 Simple question for anyone who cares to answer it. What's the difference between the eight and the ten car units besides the obvious? What I'm getting at is that I've ridden various consists of all new equipment since the debut of the R32s but whether the consists were 8, 9, 10 or 11 cars I never made a distinction between the train length. An R179 is just that, to me, no matter how long the train is. Different strokes for different folks I guess ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 16, 2018 Share #5335 Posted March 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Trainmaster5 said: Simple question for anyone who cares to answer it. What's the difference between the eight and the ten car units besides the obvious? What I'm getting at is that I've ridden various consists of all new equipment since the debut of the R32s but whether the consists were 8, 9, 10 or 11 cars I never made a distinction between the train length. An R179 is just that, to me, no matter how long the train is. Different strokes for different folks I guess ? OMG! Did I just read a paragraph from you that didn't end in "Carry On?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5336 Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: OMG! Did I just read a paragraph from you that didn't end in "Carry On?" Yep. ☺. Still waiting for a response from anyone though. There seems to be some anticipation about the five car units and I can't fathom why. Aren't they the same thing as the four cars when they're manufactured ? I haven't seen or ridden one R179 consist so I figured I'd ask the forum members and the RTO people. Carry on. Edited March 17, 2018 by Trainmaster5 Final sentence 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5337 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Trainmaster5 said: Yep. ☺. Still waiting for a response from anyone though. There seems to be some anticipation about the five car units and I can't fathom why. Aren't they the same thing as the four cars when they're manufactured ? I haven't seen or ridden one R179 consist so I figured I'd ask the forum members and the RTO people. Carry on. The anticipation is because they could debut on the a line that hasn't seen new equipment assigned to it since it got one of the SMEE fleets new many years ago, yea the 160s ran on the for couple of weeks in 06 but they transferred them to the and the hasn't seen NTT since. Railfans are eager to ride the cars on the express runs and Rockaway flats, new cars debuting on a line is always exciting, even if the exact same cars are running on other lines. I'm sure in the early 2000s their was railfans excited about bombardier 142s debuting on the even though the had been using them for couple of years at that point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5338 Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said: Simple question for anyone who cares to answer it. What's the difference between the eight and the ten car units besides the obvious? I think it more about an NTT on the more than anything else... If the ten car R179 debuted on the for example, I doubt people would care as much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5339 Posted March 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: I think it more about an NTT on the more than anything else... If the ten car R179 debuted on the for example, I doubt people would care as much. Well, let's be realistic. There're people who'd still foam over that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5340 Posted March 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Fan Railer said: Well, let's be realistic. There're people who'd still foam over that. I mean the first day of the there was a party on the entire line. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5341 Posted March 17, 2018 Seeing these on the will be a big deal, plus they're booting more R46's off the (thats a good thing) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5342 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: Seeing these on the will be a big deal, plus they're booting more R46's off the (thats a good thing) Yes, it’s a good thing. The should have never ever been 75ft in car assignment. The line should have been all R38, (back then) R32, or all All R4OM/R42. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5343 Posted March 17, 2018 There's nothing wrong with the 75 footers on the but when you have the line be 90-100% of them then that becomes an issue. Right now ridership is growing on the and those R46's causes dwell times hence the reason why the runs like shit. With 12 sets of R179's and about 12-16 sets of R32's with the rest being R46's, that's a good balance. I wish they can also get R160B 9803-9942 for the and as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5344 Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, R32 3838 said: There's nothing wrong with the 75 footers on the but when you have the line be 90-100% of them then that becomes an issue. Right now ridership is growing on the and those R46's causes dwell times hence the reason why the runs like shit. That’s a factor, but not the entire cause. The many timers along the also slow it down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulk88 Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5345 Posted March 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said: Yep. ☺. Still waiting for a response from anyone though. There seems to be some anticipation about the five car units and I can't fathom why. Aren't they the same thing as the four cars when they're manufactured ? I haven't seen or ridden one R179 consist so I figured I'd ask the forum members and the RTO people. Thats what I wonder. Are all NTT B cars identical or car 2 of 4 must always be in position 2, ABA sets cant be made in the yard, cant make a 5 car unit from 2 4 car units temporarily. Cant make a ABBBBBBA or ABBBBA (OPTO) unit. My question has to do with APS/APU, compressors, motorized axles, logic boards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5346 Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, R32 3838 said: There's nothing wrong with the 75 footers on the but when you have the line be 90-100% of them then that becomes an issue. Right now ridership is growing on the and those R46's causes dwell times hence the reason why the runs like shit. With 12 sets of R179's and about 12-16 sets of R32's with the rest being R46's, that's a good balance. I wish they can also get R160B 9803-9942 for the and as well. To elorbrate further on what S78 via Hylan said, the is the longest line in the system, merges with two other lines along its run, and has three different branches. So the longer the line, the more irregular it is. It all just depends on how many passengers are at each of the line’s station during the day or night, and how much time the passengers spend getting in and out of the train at each station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5347 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Jemorie said: To elorbrate further on what S78 via Hylan said, the is the longest line in the system, merges with two other lines along its run, and has three different branches. So the longer the line, the more irregular it is. It all just depends on how many passengers are at each of the line’s station during the day or night, and how much time the passengers spend getting in and out of the train at each station. Has the MTA considered running all the A trains to both sides of the Rockaways, eliminating the shuttle, and extending the C to Ozone Park? How about running the B to the Bronx during the weekdays and running the B to 145 during the weekends, but leaving the D as it is? With those extra r179's and the r211's, this is something that we need to think about. It will increase reliability and decrease confusion on both A and B trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5348 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Has the MTA considered running all the A trains to both sides of the Rockaways, eliminating the shuttle, and extending the C to Ozone Park? How about running the B to the Bronx during the weekdays and running the B to 145 during the weekends, but leaving the D as it is? With those extra r179's and the r211's, this is something that we need to think about. It will increase reliability and decrease confusion on both A and B trains. Well the problem with the local to lefferts is, of course, merging at Euclid, but it IS doable since they already merge at Hoyt. In the future I can definitely see the running to Rockaway Park, should ridership increase as it is currently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5349 Posted March 17, 2018 18 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said: Yep. ☺. Still waiting for a response from anyone though. There seems to be some anticipation about the five car units and I can't fathom why. Aren't they the same thing as the four cars when they're manufactured ? I haven't seen or ridden one R179 consist so I figured I'd ask the forum members and the RTO people. Carry on. I think some of it stems from the troubled testing phase for the ten-car set. Both the four-car and five-car sets were delivered around the same time (Nov. 2016) and the former of which are presently in active service on the line, whereas the latter are still idling in a yard. After being sidelined for months and months due to mechanical problems, people here want to see this train in real service and not just testing along the Brighton or Rockaways lines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officiallyliam Posted March 17, 2018 Share #5350 Posted March 17, 2018 4 hours ago, U-BahnNYC said: Well the problem with the local to lefferts is, of course, merging at Euclid, but it IS doable since they already merge at Hoyt. In the future I can definitely see the running to Rockaway Park, should ridership increase as it is currently. The shouldn't go to Ozone Park until both and are Fulton Expresses, ideally with the taking over the Fulton Local via an extension of SAS phase 4. Just because the and merge twice doesn't mean we should add a third bottleneck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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