NoHacksJustKhaks Posted August 29, 2018 Share #6501 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, S78 via Hylan said: Given how problematic they’ve been, it’s best to keep them on the . The last thing we need to do is to run them on one of the busiest lines while CBTC fails every now and then. Agreed, though I suspect in the future, they might have to if the 5-car sets stay on the . Since 8th Av. is projected to be converted to CBTC, by then, the should be more crowded. Hopefully the MTA can patch out the problems with the trains as the month's go by, the biggest problem im currently seeing with them is incorrect or no signage at all (not that much different from the R46's actually!). Edited August 29, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 29, 2018 Share #6502 Posted August 29, 2018 11 hours ago, S78 via Hylan said: Given how problematic they are, it’s best to keep them on the . The last thing we need to do is to run them on one of the busiest lines while CBTC fails every now and then. On the flipside, now it's going to be another expense to retrofit the cars with CBTC equipment when it really should've been done at the onset, even if the cars were not going to be assigned to the . 8th Avenue CBTC was always on the horizon and forgiving the initial belief that the bulk of the four-car sets would run on the line, it's always been a strong possibility that these cars would run on a CBTC line at some point in their lives. Then again, since Transit keeps using different CBTC systems on each line, it might actually make sense to wait rather than install something incompatible with the signal system. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 29, 2018 Share #6503 Posted August 29, 2018 Has anyone else noticed signing up an R179 as an brings up the on the FIND screen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 29, 2018 Share #6504 Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Lance said: On the flipside, now it's going to be another expense to retrofit the cars with CBTC equipment when it really should've been done at the onset, even if the cars were not going to be assigned to the . 8th Avenue CBTC was always on the horizon and forgiving the initial belief that the bulk of the four-car sets would run on the line, it's always been a strong possibility that these cars would run on a CBTC line at some point in their lives. Then again, since Transit keeps using different CBTC systems on each line, it might actually make sense to wait rather than install something incompatible with the signal system. I'd say that this is exactly why the TA isn't spec'ing the cars to be installed with CBTC equipment from the builder. The and each use their own CBTC systems due to the isolated nature of their lines. There is a spec for mainline CBTC, and if I'm not mistaken, it's being retrofitted onto the R160s assigned to Jamaica now, but the R179's spec was frozen well before the main line CBTC project details were finalized. So I'd surmise that the R211s would be the first car class that may arrive with on-board CBTC equipment installed by the manufacturer. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 29, 2018 Share #6505 Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Fan Railer said: I'd say that this is exactly why the TA isn't spec'ing the cars to be installed with CBTC equipment from the builder. The and each use their own CBTC systems due to the isolated nature of their lines. There is a spec for mainline CBTC, and if I'm not mistaken, it's being retrofitted onto the R160s assigned to Jamaica now, but the R179's spec was frozen well before the main line CBTC project details were finalized. So I'd surmise that the R211s would be the first car class that may arrive with on-board CBTC equipment installed by the manufacturer. Yep. Some R211s are for Eighth Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6506 Posted August 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Has anyone else noticed signing up an R179 as an brings up the on the FIND screen? Not always. There's only one car that does that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6507 Posted August 30, 2018 22 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Has anyone else noticed signing up an R179 as an brings up the on the FIND screen? 11 hours ago, Around the Horn said: Not always. There's only one car that does that. I think we're going to see a bunch of these little glitches (like the one mentioned above, or the one the plays the / version of "the next stop is" / "this is" for all lines) until at least all cars are delivered and there are no technical faults with the cars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6508 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) The R179s on the line look gorgeous but the FIND screens in their cabins look terrible! Overly pixelated appearance and poorly sized fonts Edited August 30, 2018 by lara8710 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6509 Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, lara8710 said: The R179s on the line look gorgeous but the FIND screens in their cabins look terrible! Overly pixelated appearance and poorly sized fonts Blame it on their poor software to hardware optimization on the train car! The screen is bigger, but they never changed the code to fix that issue. It’s kinda like if you use a Windows laptop and enable scaling—some stuff won’t scale correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6510 Posted August 30, 2018 Also, aren't those new displays sharper than the ones on the 160s as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6511 Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lance said: Also, aren't those new displays sharper than the ones on the 160s as well? Yeah but the way the text is displayed SUCKS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6512 Posted August 30, 2018 3018 and 3019 are reportedly coming in tonight, spotted on the NJ side of the GWB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted August 30, 2018 Share #6513 Posted August 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: 3018 and 3019 are reportedly coming in tonight, spotted on the NJ side of the GWB Awesome news!! In a matter of days or weeks we'll see this set finally running on the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6514 Posted August 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: 3018 and 3019 are reportedly coming in tonight, spotted on the NJ side of the GWB 17 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Awesome news!! In a matter of days or weeks we'll see this set finally running on the . This calls for a celebration! That set has been missing for months, ever since April, and we can finally put an end to all the speculation on the whereabouts of the five-car sets!! This means that 3016 and 3017 are coming in tomorrow, and 3015 is coming in on Saturday! The is finally gonna get newer cars!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6515 Posted August 31, 2018 And this calls for a MAJOR, MAJOR UPDATE!!! 3010-3014: At Bombardier, soon going back to NYC 3015-3019: On its way back to NYC after being missing for over four months 3050-3057, 3058-3065, 3066-3069, 3074-3077, 3078-3081, 3082-3085, 3086-3089, 3090-3093, 3094-3097, 3098-3101, 3102-3105, 3106-3109, 3110-3113, 3114-3117, 3118-3121, 3122-3125, 3126-3129, 3134-3137: All in service on the 3130-3133, 3138-3141: To enter service very very soon, if they haven't already 3142-3145, 3146-3149: Testing in the Rockaways Also, next week will mark over two years since the first R179 car, 3014, was delivered to NYC! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6516 Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Coney Island Av said: The is finally gonna get newer cars!!!! A quarter of a century in the making! I wasn't even alive when the R110B's became the NTT test trains to hit the B division... Courtesy of John Barnes The R160's came shortly afterward, such a shame these never lasted on the line for more than a few months... Courtesy of Chris M. Needless to say, im stoked. The deserves newer cars after all these years and hopefully, this time, they'll finally be in regular revenue service! It'll be nice to see an NTT train operating in the Rockaway's for the first time in my life. Im sure they'll be issues (and lots of them) but hopefully the R179's serve the route well 😁. Edited August 31, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6517 Posted August 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: A quarter of a century in the making! I wasn't even alive when the R110B's became the NTT test trains to hit the B division... Courtesy of John Barnes The R160's came shortly afterward, such a shame these never lasted on the line for more than a few months... Courtesy of Chris M. Needless to say, im stoked. The deserves newer cars after all these years and hopefully, this time, they'll finally be in regular revenue service! It'll be nice to see an NTT train operating in the Rockaway's for the first time in my life. Im sure they'll be issues (and lots of them) but hopefully the R179's serve the route well 😁. 100% agree. I got to ride both r110's (A and B divisions) in the 90's and honestly today's NTT's are much better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 6 Ave Local Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6518 Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Coney Island Av said: This calls for a celebration! That set has been missing for months, ever since April, and we can finally put an end to all the speculation on the whereabouts of the five-car sets!! This means that 3016 and 3017 are coming in tomorrow, and 3015 is coming in on Saturday! The is finally gonna get newer cars!!!! And we can soon get to see where all the fleets re-arrange to after half a year of speculation, and also this marks the beginning of the end for the R179 delieveries! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 6 Ave Local Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6519 Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Coney Island Av said: Also, next week will mark over two years since the first R179 car, 3014, was delivered to NYC! but is that a good thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6520 Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Coney Island Av said: This calls for a celebration! That set has been missing for months, ever since April, and we can finally put an end to all the speculation on the whereabouts of the five-car sets!! This means that 3016 and 3017 are coming in tomorrow, and 3015 is coming in on Saturday! None of this is correct whatsoever.... It was never a mystery where the cars went, and your delivery schedule is no where near accurate. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6521 Posted August 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, KK 6 Ave Local said: but is that a good thing Yes. Despite the issues with the 10 car r179's a hand full of the 8 car r179's are in service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 6 Ave Local Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6522 Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Yes. Despite the issues with the 10 car r179's a hand full of the 8 car r179's are in service. I meant the production delays prior to deliveries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6523 Posted August 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fan Railer said: None of this is correct whatsoever.... It was never a mystery where the cars went, and your delivery schedule is no where near accurate. Two of the 10 car is being delivered tonight. Hopefully, the remainder cars can be delivered between tomorrow and next week. Let's see what happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6524 Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KK 6 Ave Local said: I meant the production delays prior to deliveries. Obviously it was horrible to put up with, but nobody can change that. If anything, Bombardier is promising extra 5-car sets for the atrocious delays. And they are coming in steadily now... Edited August 31, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 6 Ave Local Posted August 31, 2018 Share #6525 Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coney Island Av said: And this calls for a MAJOR, MAJOR UPDATE!!! 3010-3014: At Bombardier, soon going back to NYC 3015-3019: On its way back to NYC after being missing for over four months 3050-3057, 3058-3065, 3066-3069, 3074-3077, 3078-3081, 3082-3085, 3086-3089, 3090-3093, 3094-3097, 3098-3101, 3102-3105, 3106-3109, 3110-3113, 3114-3117, 3118-3121, 3122-3125, 3126-3129, 3134-3137: All in service on the 3130-3133, 3138-3141: To enter service very very soon, if they haven't already 3142-3145, 3146-3149: Testing in the Rockaways Also, next week will mark over two years since the first R179 car, 3014, was delivered to NYC! 14 4-car sets soon and 2 5-car sets soon... Nice! Edited August 31, 2018 by KK 6 Ave Local 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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