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On December 2, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Around the Horn said:

Rumors of the second set going into service on the (C) this week have been swirling around. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Doesn’t the first test train have to finish the 30 day test first? 

The R179 failed recently, and the clock was reset again, so if it does have to finish the test first, we might not see it in service for a few months. 

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14 hours ago, R42N said:

Doesn’t the first test train have to finish the 30 day test first? 

The R179 failed recently, and the clock was reset again, so if it does have to finish the test first, we might not see it in service for a few months. 

The R179 production cars won't be here until spring the earliest, assuming no other major issues come up.  If they were to start the 30 day test on the (C), it wouldn't be the first time they shifted which line the 30 day test ran on, although it would be the first time a different train was used (we have three test trains in total).  One of the R160 test trains (forget if it was 8653-8662 or 8713-8722) started testing on the (N) then went to the (A), or the other way around.

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3 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I take it back, bombardier *USED* to make good trains, now they'e just falling apart. Then again, the R142 series are one of the most reliable cars in the IRT class fleet, so it's just the bugs in the start that need ironing out.

Outside of the R188s, they are the most reliable cars in the IRT fleet.

 

3 hours ago, danielhg121 said:

Is it their first time manufacturing a B division fleet? If that's the case, just keep them on A division lol

That doesn't matter.....the R142s had their fair share of problems when they were brand new. With all of the bugs ironed out, they've become the most reliable cars in the IRT, surpassing the R142A.

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Didn't Bombardier manufacture some of the R160 car shells (like the “A” part of the order, IIRC) in Brazil, and they initially had problems (cracks or something) that slowed down the order? (It was around then that it started becoming evident that their quality was falling).

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25 minutes ago, Eric B said:

Didn't Bombardier manufacture some of the R160 car shells (like the “A” part of the order, IIRC) in Brazil, and they initially had problems (cracks or something) that slowed down the order? (It was around then that it started becoming evident that their quality was falling).

Bombardier had no involvement in the R160 order.  Alstom was responsible for the R160As and the Brazil-built car shells which initially had poor welds.  That said, it was Alstom's first contract for the MTA.

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28 minutes ago, Bosco said:

Bombardier had no involvement in the R160 order.  Alstom was responsible for the R160As and the Brazil-built car shells which initially had poor welds.  That said, it was Alstom's first contract for the MTA.

Wasn't Westinghouse purchased by Alstom while the R68s were built? 

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6 minutes ago, LTA1992 said:

Wasn't Westinghouse purchased by Alstom while the R68s were built? 

IIRC, Alstom was part of the joint venture that worked on the R68s, but I'm not sure about their involvement.  Alstom had also made the propulsion system for the R142s, so they've been involved with the MTA for a bit.  What I meant to say was that the R160A was the first rail car that Alstom built on their own.

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