LGA Link N Train Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4601 Posted December 17, 2017 I'd like to share my opinion for the train shutdown fleet plans. Have the use 480' cars (preferably '160's and 179's) with increased service and swap northern terminals; terminates at Bedford Park Blvd and the terminating at 168 St like ol' times (despite the fact that I was born almost 2 years after 9/11) uses 600' long cars 46's and 68's from the and and should use R32's not replaced should use '143's '160's and '179's Surplus 4 car trains will be either displaced or recoupled to accommodate 600' platforms. Keep in mind that this is just an opinion and I didn't get this info from anywhere 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4602 Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said: I'd like to share my opinion for the train shutdown fleet plans. Have the use 480' cars (preferably '160's and 179's) with increased service and swap northern terminals; terminates at Bedford Park Blvd and the terminating at 168 St like ol' times (despite the fact that I was born almost 2 years after 9/11) uses 600' long cars 46's and 68's from the and and should use R32's not replaced should use '143's '160's and '179's Surplus 4 car trains will be either displaced or recoupled to accommodate 600' platforms. Keep in mind that this is just an opinion and I didn't get this info from anywhere What is accomplished by swapping the and again? Other than that, most of these are likely to happen. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4603 Posted December 17, 2017 I doubt that the R68 fleet will ever be assigned anywhere outside of CI and Concourse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4604 Posted December 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Bosco said: What is accomplished by swapping the and again? Other than that, most of these are likely to happen. To make the 600' long, this will only occur for weekdays if thats what you want 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4605 Posted December 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: To make the 600' long, this will only occur for weekdays if thats what you want So? What does that have to do with swapping the terminals? Why does the have to go to Bedford Park in order for it to be 600' long, when it can be 600' and still go to 168th? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4606 Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said: So? What does that have to do with swapping the terminals? Why does the have to go to Bedford Park in order for it to be 600' long, when it can be 600' and still go to 168th? One word: Yards ......Or I can scrap that Idea Edited December 17, 2017 by LGA Link N train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4607 Posted December 17, 2017 Can anyone bring the TOPIC BACK to the R179’s Please!?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4608 Posted December 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, VIP said: Can anyone bring the TOPIC BACK to the R179’s Please!?! 3090 - 3093 was delivered a while ago if I'm not mistaken The '179 on the is doing well Not sure about the other 4 or 5 sets They should put the 8 car '179's on the line for the train shutdown Case closed, for now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4609 Posted December 17, 2017 39 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: 3090 - 3093 was delivered a while ago if I'm not mistaken The '179 on the is doing well Not sure about the other 4 or 5 sets They should put the 8 car '179's on the line for the train shutdown Case closed, for now That’s a strong possibility. Since the is confirmed as not being assigned those 4-car sets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4610 Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said: One word: Yards ......Or I can scrap that Idea They would rather send the to Pitkin and to 207th than take some 68s from the . It is also easier. Edited December 17, 2017 by R68OnBroadway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4611 Posted December 17, 2017 57 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said: They would rather send the to Pitkin and to 207th than take some 68s from the . It is also easier. Isn’t the based out of 207th Street as well though?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4612 Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, VIP said: Isn’t the based out of 207th Street as well though?! A few sets are, and I'm assuming they are the Rockaway Park ones as those ones start off at Dyckman. Imo it would be easier to have the 600 ft use R46s, and this would make it easier for 207th as then they would only have to take care of R46s and a few R179 sets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4613 Posted December 17, 2017 According to the Facebook group, 3050-3053 was seen going from 207 to Pitkin. Wonder when (if) that set will go to the . A general, open-ended question: should we have a separate thread for fleet swaps pertaining to the Canarsie shutdown? I understand that the possibilities of fleet swaps involve almost all B-division fleets, but I think it's a big enough issue to have its own thread. Also, doing so would declutter this thread as delivery of the production R179s commences over the next few months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted December 17, 2017 Share #4614 Posted December 17, 2017 31 minutes ago, Bosco said: According to the Facebook group, 3050-3053 was seen going from 207 to Pitkin. Wonder when (if) that set will go to the . A general, open-ended question: should we have a separate thread for fleet swaps pertaining to the Canarsie shutdown? I understand that the possibilities of fleet swaps involve almost all B-division fleets, but I think it's a big enough issue to have its own thread. Also, doing so would declutter this thread as delivery of the production R179s commences over the next few months. We should have a separate thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R179 8258 Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4615 Posted December 18, 2017 So is the and lines still slated to get the R179s ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4616 Posted December 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, R179 8258 said: So is the and lines still slated to get the R179s ? Probably 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4617 Posted December 18, 2017 3 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said: We should have a separate thread. LGA Link N train beat me to it: https://www.nyctransitforums.com/topic/51339-canarsie-shutdown-fleet-swap-thread/ 53 minutes ago, R179 8258 said: So is the and lines still slated to get the R179s ? The is a given (the 5-car sets) but the is still up in the air as they test out 600' trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4618 Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Someone try to argue with my pov please.... I would hate to admit this, but I just came up with a theory stating that it could be possible that the would operate the 10 car sets and the gets none, especially with the full-length conversion. Thoughts? Edited December 18, 2017 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4619 Posted December 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Someone try to argue with my pov please.... I would hate to admit this, but I just came up with a theory stating that it could be possible that the would operate the 10 car sets and the gets none, especially with the full-length conversion. Thoughts? I don't see this happening. The needs all the newer trains it can get, especially 60' cars; additionally, those 10 car sets will really only replace the R32 and R68 put ins at rush hour. The MTA really should consider restructuring the R179 order to include more 5-car sets, if it isn't too late; I don't see how they're going to achieve all of this otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4620 Posted December 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Bosco said: I don't see this happening. The needs all the newer trains it can get, especially 60' cars; additionally, those 10 car sets will really only replace the R32 and R68 put ins at rush hour. The MTA really should consider restructuring the R179 order to include more 5-car sets, if it isn't too late; I don't see how they're going to achieve all of this otherwise. If it isn't too late he says. The order should have been complete 12 months ago. So yes. It is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4621 Posted December 18, 2017 Any changes to the order at this late stage will delay the order significantly. If the majority of the car bodies have been built to the original schematics for the specified four- and five-car sets, Bombardier cannot make any real changes without deconstructing the entire car, which I imagine is not an easy process. As long as the current order and delivery process continues as it is now and there are no more delays due to mechanical and structural issues, we should be okay as it pertains to the car assignments, even with expanded capacity on the line. As long as nobody promises full-length trains, there shouldn't be any more problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4622 Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Lance said: As long as the current order and delivery process continues as it is now and there are no more delays due to mechanical and structural issues, we should be okay as it pertains to the car assignments, even with expanded capacity on the line. As long as nobody promises full-length trains, there shouldn't be any more problems. Oops... "G Train To Get Full-Length Train Cars During L Shutdown, MTA Says" but in reality 8 car R179s and R32s should be enough... Edited December 18, 2017 by Around the Horn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4623 Posted December 18, 2017 480 foot trains, plus additional service, should prove to be enough for expanded service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4624 Posted December 18, 2017 I wonder if the expanded service will entice more Culver Line riders to use the service, or if ridership below Bergen Street is going to remain abysmal. Also, with the longer trains and expanded service, the is going to delay the due to fumigation. Maybe it would make sense for the southbound to run express from Smith 9th Street to Church Avenue? It's the same rationale that results in the current Church Avenue-bound express service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 18, 2017 Share #4625 Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Around the Horn said: Oops... "G Train To Get Full-Length Train Cars During L Shutdown, MTA Says" but in reality 8 car R179s and R32s should be enough... It will be 480 feet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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