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R179 Discussion Thread

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Program Update effective 2/20/19

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48 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

One improvement the 179s have over previous NTT car classes no one talks about is the HAVC is MUCH quieter, the HAVC on the older NTT car classes can be deafening.

The hvac sucks tho, there was alot of hot cars last summer on the (J). Hopefully they fixed that issue but they're quiet indeed

 

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18 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

One improvement the 179s have over previous NTT car classes no one talks about is the HAVC is MUCH quieter, the HAVC on the older NTT car classes can be deafening.

True. R160 HVAC sounds like a diesel loco. MTA mustve put a spec on the loudness of them for R179. Heated seats and the softer suspension are the other improvements.  R179s are a ground up design by Bombardier. R160s are simply R143s with a FIND display, different shade of wallpaper inside, and diff end doors. All other engineering and parts and hardware is the same. The R179 is a virgin design.

 

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8 hours ago, bulk88 said:

True. R160 HVAC sounds like a diesel loco. MTA mustve put a spec on the loudness of them for R179. Heated seats and the softer suspension are the other improvements.  R179s are a ground up design by Bombardier. R160s are simply R143s with a FIND display, different shade of wallpaper inside, and diff end doors. All other engineering and parts and hardware is the same. The R179 is a virgin design.

 

R179's are based on the R110B's, the key differences is the length, interior, front ,rear and mechanical. But body wise it's a R110B with a modified R160 face.

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10 hours ago, bulk88 said:

True. R160 HVAC sounds like a diesel loco. MTA mustve put a spec on the loudness of them for R179. Heated seats and the softer suspension are the other improvements.  R179s are a ground up design by Bombardier. R160s are simply R143s with a FIND display, different shade of wallpaper inside, and diff end doors. All other engineering and parts and hardware is the same. The R179 is a virgin design.

 

New Car Engineering designs the cars. The manufacturers have their signature parts and ways of putting everything together that those of us can see on the finished product. To call it a "virgin design" and say that it was designed from the ground up by them is a misconception. Take it from someone who has been in New Car Engineering.   Transit does the design,  the manufacturers who win the bids take it from there.  

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44 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

3241 is in Jersey at the Feb waiting for delivery at night

What time do the cars typically come over the bridge? 

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38 minutes ago, Enjineer said:

What time do the cars typically come over the bridge? 

Around 9 or 10 at night

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2 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

Around 9 or 10 at night

Thank you! I'd been wanting to see them deliver a car before they were all here, and never knew in advance when a car would be coming!

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1 hour ago, R32 3838 said:

3241 is in Jersey at the Feb waiting for delivery at night

what does "the feb" stand for?

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Posted (edited)

While we are on topic, I'm happy about the news regarding the fact that we have a new 5 car set arriving which is good progress for the R179 contract. My question is regarding 3070-3073, is it even on property or being sent over to NYCT yet? Also where will it go? My guess is the C since it will complete the last 8 car set formation 

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1 minute ago, Alexander9172 said:

While we are on topic, I'm curious regarding the fact that we have a new 5 car set arriving which is good progress for the R179 contract. My question is regarding 3070-3073, is it even on property or being sent over to NYCT yet? Also where will it go? My guess is the C since it will complete the last 8 car set formation 

it will probably go to the J since 3150-3237 on the C make an even 11 trains. Also 3050-3149 excluding 3070-3073 are on the J.

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4 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

3241 is in Jersey at the Feb waiting for delivery at night

Well, based on this information, (3241 delivered before 3020) it seems that the deliveries are not going in exact numerical order.

Nevertheless, it's still excellent news, which means that in May, the A will have 2 10 car r179's in service.

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37 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said:

Does anyone have a list of the current #s and assignments?

3050-3149: (J)(Z) Jamaica line (12.5 trains)

3150-3237: (C) Fulton St Local (9/11 trains)

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(A) : 3010-19 (1 10-car train)

3020-3049, 3238-3317 (11 future trains)

 

*Each line has 11-12 trains shared. 

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26 minutes ago, Calvin said:

3050-3149: (J)(Z) Jamaica line (12.5 trains)

3150-3237: (C) Fulton St Local (9/11 trains)

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(A) : 3010-19 (1 10-car train)

3020-3049, 3238-3327 (12 future trains)

 

*Each line has 11-12 trains shared. 

Fixed, 12 more ten-car sets coming. Total 13 trains. overall fleet total 318 cars..... again.

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They're here! 3242 and 3241 arrived last night – didn't see them unload it since for some reason the locomotive wasn't coming, and I was cold and needed to get back home...

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3240 and 3239 arrived tonight at 207th Street. I got to see them actually unloading 3240, and saw 3242 and 3241 just behind it, ready to be linked up with tonight's deliveries. 

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3240 being winched off the trailer, with 3241 in the background (maybe 3242 if you look hard enough!) rdy0cee.jpg

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13 minutes ago, happy283 said:

will the (A) still have the 13 R179 trains when the R211s arrive?

Most likely yes. Too soon to tell though.

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9 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

Most likely yes. Too soon to tell though.

Agreed. If anything the 8 car trains on the (C) will be transferred to the (G)  and the (C) would consist of 10 car R211s.

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It really seems the (C) got the short end of the stick here. They got new 8 car trains instead of 10 cars not to mention the (J) getting 12 8 car trains instead of 5-6 to replace the R42. this wouldn't have happened if they didn't send R32s to ENY.

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34 minutes ago, happy283 said:

It really seems the (C) got the short end of the stick here. They got new 8 car trains instead of 10 cars not to mention the (J) getting 12 8 car trains instead of 5-6 to replace the R42. this wouldn't have happened if they didn't send R32s to ENY.

They did this because of the (L) shutdown. The original plan was for the (C) to use full length R46's with R179's and have the (J) have all the 8 car 179's while the (G) was to be a mix of 8 car R32's and R160A-1's.

 

Now that the shutdown isn't happening, the (G) isn't going 8 cars and from the looks of it even though it's not official, the (C) is stuck with the remaining 8 car R179's and 7 R32's. The (C) still has a possibility of going full length meaning the (A) and (C) would split the 10 car R179's. Meaning the 8 car R179's could be pushed to another line.

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