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2 hours ago, Jchambers2120 said:

Tech trains are known to slide in inclement weather, and if I’m not mistaken the speed limit over switches is 10MPH (maybe a t/o can correct me if I’m wrong?). The train operator (we don’t have drivers) was doing exactly what he/she was supposed to, keep their train under control. Also tech trains don’t have handbrakes.

Switches are 10 unless posted otherwise. I believe Woodlawn was recently resigned to 15, but that may be outbound so don't quote me on that. 

Usually the reason for stopping and starting at stub terminals is the insanely slow GTs they put in approaching the bumper for the obvious safety reasons. Even the most aggressive of TOs will crawl through those, so there's really only shades of slow up there.

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3 hours ago, Amtrak706 said:

Four months ago

I see, I haven't been riding the IND as much as I used to.

3 hours ago, biGC323232 said:

Several months ago...I haven't rode the R179 on the (A) yet....Just on the (C) (J) so far...

Before today I've been on (C) and (J) R179s but not (A)s

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On ‎7‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 7:30 PM, AlgorithmOfTruth said:

From what I've seen, you need to have a balance of confidence and experience on your line to be an efficient T/O. Not too confident to the point where you're cocky, but confident enough that you aren't afraid to operate. For example, I was on a Brooklyn-bound (D) train one day and had the most anxious T/O I've ever seen. We pull out of Fordham Road and head toward 182nd-183rd Streets. He makes about 10 separate brake applications that jerk everyone around before we reach the 10-car marker at 182nd-183rd Streets. He gets indication from his C/R and we make the approach to Tremont Avenue. We get up to around 10 MPH and he panics as we approach the yellow-over-S before the two-shot behind it. HARD BRAKING ensues. We must've made it down that slope at close to 0 speed before we actually reached Tremont Avenue. Needless to say, the rest of the trip went on in a similar fashion. If a T/O is that scared to operate, I don't see them lasting long! (Chronic lateness) This isn't to say that you shouldn't be cautious, but know your line, be familiar with how the timers behave, and be confident in your operation. 

That kind of operation won't be tolerated whence a TSS is riding his train one day.

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I'm off in regards to the number of 10 car trains that are in the A, but I found a video of perhaps the 5th or 6th (correct me if I'm wrong) 10 car r179 train being tested on the A.

 

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On 7/25/2019 at 9:33 PM, Bill from Maspeth said:

That kind of operation won't be tolerated whence a TSS is riding his train one day.

sad to say there're a number of T/Os like that; I will literally get off the train and wait for the next one if I get the feel that my operator is overly fan-happy.

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On 7/25/2019 at 1:28 PM, 4 via Mosholu said:

They do have handbrakes; it is only encased within the lever that controls the brakes.

The NTT's don't have handbrakes, only the SMEE's do. They do however have parking brakes, which (IIRC) is only present when the train is in emergency.

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On 7/27/2019 at 3:04 AM, Fan Railer said:

sad to say there're a number of T/Os like that; I will literally get off the train and wait for the next one if I get the feel that my operator is overly fan-happy.

Fan-happy?

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24 minutes ago, Amtrak706 said:

Fan-happy?

In a nutshell, constant application and release of the brakes to bring the train to a halt (as opposed to one or two applications). Depending on the car, this could either be a nuisance or a significant delay while the brakes recharge (in order to keep them from failing).

Think of it as turning the kitchen light on and off a few times within 10 seconds. It's much less effective than turning it on and keeping it that way until the 10 seconds pass, and you've just created needless wear on the switch.

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1 hour ago, Lex said:

In a nutshell, constant application and release of the brakes to bring the train to a halt (as opposed to one or two applications). Depending on the car, this could either be a nuisance or a significant delay while the brakes recharge (in order to keep them from failing).

Think of it as turning the kitchen light on and off a few times within 10 seconds. It's much less effective than turning it on and keeping it that way until the 10 seconds pass, and you've just created needless wear on the switch.

Yes, I understand the concept - I’m just not quite sure what “fan” refers to?

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37 minutes ago, Amtrak706 said:

Yes, I understand the concept - I’m just not quite sure what “fan” refers to?

That's jargon.

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On 7/28/2019 at 2:36 AM, subway4832 said:

The NTT's don't have handbrakes, only the SMEE's do. They do however have parking brakes, which (IIRC) is only present when the train is in emergency.

Parking brakes are applied only when there is low pressure in the main reservoir pipe, not necessarily the brake pipe.  A loss of pressure in the brake pipe (represented on the duplex gauges by the black needle) will cause an emergency brake application.

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1 hour ago, Richard Lewis 1 said:

Theres A R42 (J) Train Is Available On Weekends Only?

R42s aren't limited to weekends only on the (J)(Z), they've been running during the week as well mostly through 2019.

Quick reminder to not spam the (wrong) thread by posting the same thing 4 times...   

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On R179 3257, There's a new *ding chime before you'll hear the manual announcement on a certain time. It's similar to the LIRR with "this station is"

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2 hours ago, Calvin said:

On R179 3257, There's a new *ding chime before you'll hear the manual announcement on a certain time. It's similar to the LIRR with "this station is"

R179 3161-3158 on the (C) Has the same chime as well.

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7 hours ago, TheNewYorkElevated said:

R179 3190 closes it's doors without the famous Charlie Pellet announcement after saying the next stop. This is also on the (C)

They’re also modifying the interior cab window handles that us C/R’s have complained about for damn near 2 years. 

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2 hours ago, Richard Lewis 1 said:

R42 (J) Train For Weekends Are Coming To Next Weekend August 17th 2019.

You probably will see it this weekend because they have planned service change which (J) only runs between Board St and Broadway Junction this weekend.

Btw, move on, this is a R179 related thread.

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