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10 hours ago, VIP said:

They’re gonna be OUT for awhile... now I’m second guessing how the hell these cars passed their revenue service testing....

Let's wait and see. These cars are being inspected and any cars that pass the inspection will most likely go back in service, but those that don't, will have to be repaired before going back to service.

I wouldn't be surprised, in the best case scenario, if a few r179's go back to service some time this week. Fingers crossed!!

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12 minutes ago, Calvin said:

The R179 are restarting its monthly testing process. Currently at Mytrle Av-Bway: the R179 opened the opposite doors at the end platforms.

Well that was quick

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Was 3010-3019 not throughly tested for two years before being accepted? Surely they would have noticed this issue before hand...

And regarding that first incident, was the reason why that train went BIE is because the door slid open 4 inches?

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So I seen a video of an R179 at Essex Street doing a door test again, and when the doors closed.....

 

ONE OF THE DOORS REOPENED ON ITS OWN AND CLOSED AGAIN BY ITSELF!

 

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They’re working in conjunction with Bombardier to revamping the door motors as the ones you notice on the R142/A equipment. Means the doors will open quickly and close with force. 

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In November and December of 2017 during the 30 day test, iirc didn't during testing the R179 experience door issues on one of the trips, and still passed the test without reset? If wrong what was the issue and still why was the issue not considered major?

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10 minutes ago, 553 Bridgeton said:

Caught them testing yesterday 

 

That was the quickest stop I have ever seen an R179 do. Are the doors slightly faster now?

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1 minute ago, Lawrence St said:

That was the quickest stop I have ever seen an R179 do. Are the doors slightly faster now?

With the new motors the doors open quicker and close with some force. Very similar motors to the R188’s 

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19 hours ago, VIP said:

They’re working in conjunction with Bombardier to revamping the door motors as the ones you notice on the R142/A equipment. Means the doors will open quickly and close with force. 

Yes, you can hear the doors on those cars open and close pretty forcefully. Hope that does the trick.

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On 1/12/2020 at 2:59 AM, VIP said:

They’re gonna be OUT for awhile... now I’m second guessing how the hell these cars passed their revenue service testing....

Well, they technically didn't pass a 30 day test because they "cheated" the test.

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On 1/12/2020 at 11:50 AM, SimplyMyself said:

So I was randomly looking through a SubChat thread and saw this comment.

"An R179 is a R211 with 1998 color interiors. R142, R143, R160, and R188s can trainline with each other. R179s cant. R179s are an experiment of picking another generation of parts by the MTA for the R211s/R262. Door motors without limit switches, only stepper motor feedback is the "revolutionary" design on R179s." (bulk88)

http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=1534620&p=4

If this is accurate, then it is wise of the MTA to test these technologies on a smaller fleet, such as the R179s. It would be better to get these design flaws worked out for larger orders like the R211 and R262.

Not accurate .

As far as technologies,  the 179s are more in line with the 143s and 160s with only small improvements here and there.  The 211s will be a whole new way of working. 

As far as trainlining current NTTs,  they only can mechanically.  Meaning, if the need to do a mix consist for a non-revenue move,  they can.   But that's it.  They won't mix well in passenger service. 

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1 hour ago, MTA Bus said:

Well, they technically didn't pass a 30 day test because they "cheated" the test.

That’s the problem. They were rushed from get go. Now look... 

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On 1/13/2020 at 7:02 PM, AJ of JGD said:

They even honked on their own.

Not what's happening. That T/O is calling for police. Why, I don't know, but that's the horn signal for police assistance. Probably an unruly passenger or something, and that's probably why they're holding in the station.

Edit: in fact, you can even see the cops arriving in that video.

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1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

Check out this video.

 

This was already posted in the other thread.

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On 12/31/2019 at 7:16 PM, Missabassie said:

 

Sounds like they're pushing them out before the new year. Still a tad lazy, delivering an incomplete product....

That seems to be a recurring thing with the MTA (2nd Ave Subway anyone)?

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On 1/13/2020 at 1:23 PM, VIP said:

With the new motors the doors open quicker and close with some force. Very similar motors to the R188’s 

I think some of the R143s have these motors and will be expanded to the entire fleet. R142s, 160s: don't know. 

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On 1/13/2020 at 9:22 PM, MTA Bus said:

Well, they technically didn't pass a 30 day test because they "cheated" the test.

Just like the Astros and the Red Sox

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11 hours ago, Calvin said:

I think some of the R143s have these motors and will be expanded to the entire fleet. R142s, 160s: don't know. 

R142 1211-1215 and R142A 7775 have these new door motors. The R179s  need these.

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On 1/8/2020 at 12:34 AM, danielhg121 said:

Bruh, no one really knows what's going to happen. I will assume the C is going to be all R32's if they can help it. I think that would be the easiest solution without having to swap cars back. The J/Z have to make service with whatever they got 42's and 160's, maybe a few sets of 32's. A train probably getting 46's back from Coney, it'll be interesting tomorrow. 

That's true because there were refurbished R46s on the (A). Mind you, 207 treats their R46s like shit.

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