Maxwell179 Posted February 4, 2020 Share #8876 Posted February 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jemorie said: To clear up the questions regarding the whereabouts of the R32s and R179s being used on the lines they're currently more-or-less assigned to (as I've seen on the previous pages), only 130 cars (13 ten-car trains) of R179s make up the remaining portion of the 's fleet. The vast majority of the 's fleet is still R46s. With the current gradual R32 phase-out, all you'll see is R46s and R179s on the . The is still half NTTs (before R160s and now R179s). So all 13 trainsets are in service ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted February 4, 2020 Share #8877 Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, Maxwell179 said: So all 13 trainsets are in service ? Almost. Just 2 trainsets left. I believe those are still testing as we speak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted February 4, 2020 Share #8878 Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jemorie said: Almost. Just 2 trainsets left. I believe those are still testing as we speak. Oh yeah 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 5, 2020 Share #8879 Posted February 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Jemorie said: To clear up the questions regarding the whereabouts of the R32s and R179s being used on the lines they're currently more-or-less assigned to (as I've seen on the previous pages), only 130 cars (13 ten-car trains) of R179s make up the remaining portion of the 's fleet. The vast majority of the 's fleet is still R46s. With the current gradual R32 phase-out, all you'll see is R46s and R179s on the . The is still half NTTs (before R160s and now R179s). imo they should just make the 100% R179's and send 50 R32's to ENY and Keep 60 R32's for the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 5, 2020 Share #8880 Posted February 5, 2020 All 13 R179 10-car trains are at Pitkin. 3040-3044/3045-3049 made its way to Pitkin today. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted February 5, 2020 Share #8881 Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, R32 3838 said: imo they should just make the 100% R179's and send 50 R32's to ENY and Keep 60 R32's for the I think the A/C should stay with the fleet they currently have until the r211's. Keep in mind that less r32's run during the weekends. And, yes the r179's represent a third of the whole A fleet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted February 5, 2020 Share #8882 Posted February 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Calvin said: All 13 R179 10-car trains are at Pitkin. 3040-3044/3045-3049 made its way to Pitkin today. R179 Order Complete? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted February 5, 2020 Share #8883 Posted February 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Snorunts said: R179 Order Complete? Still two more trains to enter revenue service: 3030-3049. Am surprised that the first isn't already running but was not in evidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8884 Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) There are constant repeats of door problems today on the : 2 sets. -One of them at 125 St Edited February 7, 2020 by Calvin To mention: this isn't false. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjineer Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8885 Posted February 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Calvin said: There are constant repeats of door problems today on the : 2 sets. Again?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8886 Posted February 7, 2020 Make that 3, one was taken oos in the morning on the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8887 Posted February 7, 2020 I could see why. They rushed these cars back into service without fully testing out these new door systems. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8888 Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Calvin said: There are constant repeats of door problems today on the : 2 sets. -One of them at 125 St God, these lemons are so horrible. Even actual lemons are more tolerable than these R179 cars. At this point, would it be just easier and cheaper to replace the door motors with the ones used on the R160 and R188s? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8889 Posted February 7, 2020 I can’t believe they have the nerve to want to scrap those R32s and R42 now. They better hold on to them if they know what’s good. I saw an R179 train having problems this morning at 59th street with the doors closing. These cars are rigged with issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjineer Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8890 Posted February 7, 2020 I doubt they will scrap any cars. My guess is they will mothball the R32s and if needed, put them back into service if something like the R179 door issues happen again where they need to pull the fleet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted February 7, 2020 Share #8891 Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) R179 rush hour service requirements as of 2/7; - 6 sets (60 cars) - 9 sets (72 cars) / - 9 sets (72 cars) 278 cars accepted, remaining 40 still undergoing testing. Edited February 8, 2020 by Fan Railer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted February 8, 2020 Share #8892 Posted February 8, 2020 3030-39 are in service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted February 8, 2020 Share #8893 Posted February 8, 2020 23 hours ago, Enjineer said: I doubt they will scrap any cars. My guess is they will mothball the R32s and if needed, put them back into service if something like the R179 door issues happen again where they need to pull the fleet. I agree 100%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted February 8, 2020 Share #8894 Posted February 8, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 3:03 PM, JeremiahC99 said: God, these lemons are so horrible. Even actual lemons are more tolerable than these R179 cars. At this point, would it be just easier and cheaper to replace the door motors with the ones used on the R160 and R188s? Previous fleets, such as the r46's, r68's and r142's, encountered the same issues plus worse issues than the r179's. In fact, according to Wikipedia, the r68's encountered issues crossing the Manhattan Bridge during the testing phase. At least, the r179's have been crossing the Willy B with no issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 8, 2020 Share #8895 Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Previous fleets, such as the r46's, r68's and r142's, encountered the same issues plus worse issues than the r179's. In fact, according to Wikipedia, the r68's encountered issues crossing the Manhattan Bridge during the testing phase. At least, the r179's have been crossing the Willy B with no issues. Yeah but that was obviously a different time for technology. Manufacturers and builders should know better NOW especially with new technology and resources. There’s no excuse in The years of 2017-2020 that a train has Defects and endless malfunctions AFTER testing. It’s like making the SAME mistakes more than twice. This is unacceptable and The R179’s have been nothing but a headache. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted February 8, 2020 Share #8896 Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Previous fleets, such as the r46's, r68's and r142's, encountered the same issues plus worse issues than the r179's. In fact, according to Wikipedia, the r68's encountered issues crossing the Manhattan Bridge during the testing phase. At least, the r179's have been crossing the Willy B with no issues. The grade at which the R179s have to climb for the WBB is low, unlike the Manhattan Bridge hump or going up from the 60 St tunnel to Queensboro Plaza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted February 8, 2020 Share #8897 Posted February 8, 2020 That does not matter as R179s have been tested over there with no issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8898 Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Previous fleets, such as the r46's, r68's and r142's, encountered the same issues plus worse issues than the r179's. In fact, according to Wikipedia, the r68's encountered issues crossing the Manhattan Bridge during the testing phase. At least, the r179's have been crossing the Willy B with no issues. MTA and bombardier dont even want to commit to making sure the 179s are running reliably. its pretty obvious that they (the 179s) still have door problems because A) they rushed them all back into service in only a few weeks and B) they hardly did any repairs. if they really wanted to commit to repairing the 179s properly, MTA would have sidelined them for another few more weeks or possibly months before putting them back in service. and lets not forget they all had a bunch of problems BEFORE testing....and they still have the same problems AFTER entering service. the 142s did have problems, but ALL of them got resolved DURING testing and they ran completely fine after entering service. and for the R68 situation, yes they experienced similar problems but all of them went through extensive work to make them run normally, unlike the 179s which still run like garbage after being rushed into service with minimal repairs. the situation for the 46s can be worse than the one for the 179s but that just goes back to @VIPs point about how technology wasnt as advanced as it is now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8899 Posted February 9, 2020 We do still have another 18 cars coming that havent been built yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metajore Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8900 Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Coney Island Av said: MTA and bombardier dont even want to commit to making sure the 179s are running reliably. its pretty obvious that they (the 179s) still have door problems because A) they rushed them all back into service in only a few weeks and B) they hardly did any repairs. if they really wanted to commit to repairing the 179s properly, MTA would have sidelined them for another few more weeks or possibly months before putting them back in service. and lets not forget they all had a bunch of problems BEFORE testing....and they still have the same problems AFTER entering service. the 142s did have problems, but ALL of them got resolved DURING testing and they ran completely fine after entering service. and for the R68 situation, yes they experienced similar problems but all of them went through extensive work to make them run normally, unlike the 179s which still run like garbage after being rushed into service with minimal repairs. the situation for the 46s can be worse than the one for the 179s but that just goes back to @VIPs point about how technology wasnt as advanced as it is now. When do you think this issue will be resolved? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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