XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8901 Posted February 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Lawrence St said: We do still have another 18 cars coming that havent been built yet. I thought those were the 33xx cars? One extra 10 and 8 car set? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8902 Posted February 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: I thought those were the 33xx cars? One extra 10 and 8 car set? No these were the extra-extra settlement cars from the door fiasco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMyself Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8903 Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: No these were the extra-extra settlement cars from the door fiasco. Do you have a source? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8904 Posted February 9, 2020 No, because all 318 cars have been delivered, and the total is not 336. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8905 Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, RedLine said: No, because all 318 cars have been delivered, and the total is not 336. How? Byford said himself we were getting an extra 18 cars, unless I'm confusing it with another issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjineer Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8906 Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Lawrence St said: No these were the extra-extra settlement cars from the door fiasco. No, all cars are here. The 18 cars were to turn 4-car sets into 5-car sets (which turned the original 4 10-car train part into 13 10-car trains, hence the number split from 3010-3049 and then the 10-car trains beginning at 3238) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8907 Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Delete comment Edited February 10, 2020 by Bill from Maspeth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8908 Posted February 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Metajore said: When do you think this issue will be resolved? After the cars come off warranty (whenever that is) NYCT will make them work, just like what they did with the R44/R46. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8909 Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: I thought those were the 33xx cars? One extra 10 and 8 car set? The extra cars were middle cars. In other words fewer 4 car links and more 5 car links. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted February 9, 2020 Share #8910 Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Lawrence St said: No these were the extra-extra settlement cars from the door fiasco. Absolutely not. The extra cars were because of late delivery of the order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irongirl6128 Posted February 10, 2020 Share #8911 Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/8/2020 at 8:35 PM, Coney Island Av said: MTA and bombardier dont even want to commit to making sure the 179s are running reliably. its pretty obvious that they (the 179s) still have door problems because A) they rushed them all back into service in only a few weeks and B) they hardly did any repairs. if they really wanted to commit to repairing the 179s properly, MTA would have sidelined them for another few more weeks or possibly months before putting them back in service. and lets not forget they all had a bunch of problems BEFORE testing....and they still have the same problems AFTER entering service. the 142s did have problems, but ALL of them got resolved DURING testing and they ran completely fine after entering service. and for the R68 situation, yes they experienced similar problems but all of them went through extensive work to make them run normally, unlike the 179s which still run like garbage after being rushed into service with minimal repairs. the situation for the 46s can be worse than the one for the 179s but that just goes back to @VIPs point about how technology wasnt as advanced as it is now. With the type of technology we have now there should be NO excuse for this kind of mayhem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted February 11, 2020 Share #8912 Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 8:40 PM, RedLine said: 3030-39 are in service Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted February 12, 2020 Share #8913 Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) It's official!! https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2020/02/12/mta-transit-r42-subway-retire https://www.amny.com/transit/train-lovers-reminisce-as-r42-subway-trains-take-final-ride-through-brooklyn-queens/ I guess so far so good with the r179's for now. Edited February 12, 2020 by subwaycommuter1983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted February 12, 2020 Share #8914 Posted February 12, 2020 R32 will be next soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8915 Posted February 13, 2020 6 hours ago, bwwnyc123 said: R32 will be next soon. 2022 maybe 23. Whats left. Hope they make it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8916 Posted February 13, 2020 Has there actually been a confirmation the R32 will retire within the next couple of months? Likewise, has there actually been a confirmation the R32 will keep running until the R211s come in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8917 Posted February 13, 2020 So far, if the R32s are only for the , positive thing is that the C/R's have the seat going over long minute stops, bridges or express branches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMyself Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8918 Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GojiMet86 said: Has there actually been a confirmation the R32 will retire within the next couple of months? Likewise, has there actually been a confirmation the R32 will keep running until the R211s come in? Since you guys consider NYCTSubway as a valid source on Wikipedia, and may consider it a valid source in general... The fact that they say "new fleet of New Technology trainsets" I believe signifies the R211s, since the R179s are essentially done testing and in-service. Also from the ERA Bulletin October 2019: "1,077 new Subdivision “B” cars would also be ordered as options onto our current R-211 order that will replace the R-32 class and oldest of the R-46 class cars." (page 20). https://erausa.org/pdf/bulletin/2019/2019-10-bulletin.pdf That's what I found. Let's see if the R32's actually pull through though. Edited February 13, 2020 by SimplyMyself Added link to Bulletin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metajore Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8919 Posted February 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, SimplyMyself said: Since you guys consider NYCTSubway as a valid source on Wikipedia, and may consider it a valid source in general... The fact that they say "new fleet of New Technology trainsets" I believe signifies the R211s, since the R179s are essentially done testing and in-service. Also from the ERA Bulletin October 2019: "1,077 new Subdivision “B” cars would also be ordered as options onto our current R-211 order that will replace the R-32 class and oldest of the R-46 class cars." (page 20). https://erausa.org/pdf/bulletin/2019/2019-10-bulletin.pdf That's what I found. Let's see if the R32's actually pull through though. No, actually, the r32s will be retired this spring. It's the last ride for the R42s, debuted in 1969 We'll be doing it again this spring, when the MTA retires the oldest of the old cars, known as the R32s, from 1964 pic.twitter.com/BtBRT2TJLY — Dan Rivoli (@danrivoli) February 12, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8920 Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Metajore said: No, actually, the r32s will be retired this spring. It's the last ride for the R42s, debuted in 1969 We'll be doing it again this spring, when the MTA retires the oldest of the old cars, known as the R32s, from 1964 pic.twitter.com/BtBRT2TJLY — Dan Rivoli (@danrivoli) February 12, 2020 I honestly believe @SimplyMyself's post more. The R32s being fully retired will reduced the spare ratios severely in the east to just 40 cars total (20 for the and 20 for the other eastern lines) whereas the would have all 188 R179s. Edited February 13, 2020 by Jemorie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8921 Posted February 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Metajore said: No, actually, the r32s will be retired this spring. It's the last ride for the R42s, debuted in 1969 We'll be doing it again this spring, when the MTA retires the oldest of the old cars, known as the R32s, from 1964 pic.twitter.com/BtBRT2TJLY — Dan Rivoli (@danrivoli) February 12, 2020 I can’t see the being that foolish to retire all the remaining R32s. Maybe half of them but certainly not all. They are still assigned on the and for regular service unlike the R42s that was used whenever once ENY received all its R179s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8922 Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Agreed. I did see Dan Rivoli’s report from the R42 train on New York 1 yesterday about the MTA gearing up to do it again in the Spring with the R32s. Not sure where he got it from, but if he is indeed right about that, then the MTA truly never seem to learn from their mistakes. Personally, I wouldn’t retire any R32s, until there’s a significant amount of R211s in service, so that we don’t wind up with yet another shortage of cars on the B-Division. And retiring the R32s entirely could preclude any kind of service improvement or expansion involving the Eastern Division lines. For example, a year ago, a group of Bay Ridge area pols proposed splitting the perennially unreliable train into two services. A number of posters on here, including myself, suggested the possibility of running the between Forest Hills and Whitehall and implementing a Nassau St service (with a different letter) to replace the in Brooklyn (I also suggested extending the on its same weekday hours to supplement the Nassau service). But if the R32s are completely retired this Spring, then there probably wouldn’t be enough cars for such service. Edited February 13, 2020 by T to Dyre Avenue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8923 Posted February 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Calvin said: So far, if the R32s are only for the , positive thing is that the C/R's have the seat going over long minute stops, bridges or express branches. There was an R32 set on the yesterday. They have been running just about 1-2 sets on the Train the last few days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8924 Posted February 13, 2020 Just to clear things up MTA was gonna hold on to the R32/42s until Byford's retirement. Around that time was when the R32/42s "suddenly" retired. Also I heard just like how Cuomo got Byford retired, I also heard he pushed for all R32s/42s to retire before March 2020. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 13, 2020 Share #8925 Posted February 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Just to clear things up MTA was gonna hold on to the R32/42s until Byford's retirement. Around that time was when the R32/42s "suddenly" retired. Also I heard just like how Cuomo got Byford retired, I also heard he pushed for all R32s/42s to retire before March 2020. Is there anyway we can stop Cuomo from interfering with the subway? I have had enough of his nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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