R179 8258 Posted April 29, 2020 Share #9101 Posted April 29, 2020 Well now the service is up & running 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted April 29, 2020 Share #9102 Posted April 29, 2020 Once every 20 minutes according to the MTA website. Not sure if they’re still running Lefferts-bound trains local. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted April 29, 2020 Share #9103 Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: Once every 20 minutes according to the MTA website. Not sure if they’re still running Lefferts-bound trains local. Looks like trains are express now in Brooklyn .(C) is every 12 minutes now 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9104 Posted June 3, 2020 Welp there was an Incident with the R179s last night. Trains are currently not leaving out of Euclid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9105 Posted June 3, 2020 The incident. Didn’t want to post it because I sorta couldn’t tell from the lighting if it was a different model 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9106 Posted June 3, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9107 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Union Tpke said: At this point, I’m praying to god the R211s do much better than the R179s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9108 Posted June 3, 2020 I'd expect there to be concerns if that were to happen with any class, but given the fact that it involved the R179s, oh boy. It's basically the Grumman 870 debacle all over again... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9109 Posted June 3, 2020 If this is a manufacturing fault, I have to wonder at what point does the MTA just sue Bombardier for a complete breach of contract? How many major incidents must occur before they're held responsible in a fashion more than just giving the MTA a couple more cars? If this decoupling happened in one of the river tunnels or on an incline, this could've been disastrous. Bombardier was paid to produce and deliver a series of train cars that would last several decades and replace the ancient cars that are in service at the time. With the latest major incident, these new cars are once again out of service indefinitely while the situation is investigated. We cannot afford to keep a bunch of 43 ton paper weights lying around unused because they're unsafe to operate. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9110 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Well, lesson to be learned.... never buy from Bombardier ever again... Edited June 3, 2020 by Kamen Rider 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9111 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) R179 out of service for the second time in a row. Now I can see why Bombardier almost went out of business and Alstom took over their train manufacturing division. The R179s have a really bleak future here... Edited June 3, 2020 by TheNewYorkElevated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9112 Posted June 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Lance said: If this is a manufacturing fault, I have to wonder at what point does the MTA just sue Bombardier for a complete breach of contract? How many major incidents must occur before they're held responsible in a fashion more than just giving the MTA a couple more cars? If this decoupling happened in one of the river tunnels or on an incline, this could've been disastrous. Bombardier was paid to produce and deliver a series of train cars that would last several decades and replace the ancient cars that are in service at the time. With the latest major incident, these new cars are once again out of service indefinitely while the situation is investigated. We cannot afford to keep a bunch of 43 ton paper weights lying around unused because they're unsafe to operate. I'm really hoping that this is an isolated incident, rather than a manufacturing fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9113 Posted June 3, 2020 This is why the JACKASSES Should have never retired a single R32 yet. I knew this would happen. They kept covering up the problems and this happens. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9114 Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: This is why the JACKASSES Should have never retired a single R32 yet. I knew this would happen. They kept covering up the problems and this happens. There's no proof it was a manufacturing issue right now. Wait until more info about this incident is released. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9115 Posted June 3, 2020 More pictures posted online and linked on Reddit: https://imgur.com/a/sgPWqO7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9116 Posted June 3, 2020 Supposedly the same thing happened to a Bombardier R142 on the curve between 138th and 149th many years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9117 Posted June 3, 2020 Looking back on the Pullman/Rockwell fiasco of the late '70s, the R32/42s may well end up becoming this decade's R16s- pressed back into service because the 'train of the future' turns out to be a lemon. Then again, I wouldn't put it past Cuomo to prevent the old cars from returning even if the R179 situation became truly dire, him being the optics-obsessed egomaniac that he is (and always was)... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9118 Posted June 3, 2020 Unfortunately can’t provide details because they aren’t set in stone (and not public info yet) but there may be some car shuffling to make service in response to the temporary removal of the R179s from service. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9119 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Edited June 3, 2020 by Union Tpke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9120 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Dj Hammers said: Unfortunately can’t provide details because they aren’t set in stone (and not public info yet) but there may be some car shuffling to make service in response to the temporary removal of the R179s from service. I presume R68As from the are in play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9121 Posted June 3, 2020 https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-subway-cars-r179s-decoupled-mta-20200603-qg7epr6xxvatrlwti2jmza72xe-story.html The breakup occurred because a pin was missing from a metal bar that holds the cars together, said a source with knowledge of the incident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9122 Posted June 3, 2020 https://www.thecity.nyc/2020/6/3/21279505/undesired-uncoupling-leads-mta-to-pull-264-new-subway-cars-out-of-service Until the latest problem, 264 of the agency’s 318 R179 fleet had been in service. They were pulled within hours of the uncoupling, according to spokesperson Meredith Daniels, who added that the agency has enough spare cars that it won’t need to move older units from its yards back into service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9123 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: That image right there shows how much worse of an idea the baloney springs are compared to pantograph gates. Edited June 3, 2020 by R10 2952 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9124 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: spokesperson Meredith Daniels, who added that the agency has enough spare cars that it won’t need to move older units from its yards back into service. I have a very hard time believing that. Could Cuomo possibly be pulling strings behind the scenes already? Edited June 3, 2020 by R10 2952 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted June 3, 2020 Share #9125 Posted June 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, R10 2952 said: I have a very hard time believing that. Could Cuomo possibly be pulling strings behind the scenes already? Eh, hard to think he cares about car equipment with the city on fire. I also do not believe her, unless she's specifically referring to this week. Next week it's simply impossible. There are not enough available 8-car units if you remove the ENY 179 fleet and all 32s and 42s at once and expect to run anything near full service. I mean, we needed 42s to cover for the 179 removal back when 32s were still in service! Daily News already reporting that 32s will be used. Will not trust them until confirmation though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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