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So it seems we lost the (C) some time ago.  Like starting March 27.

That means 3150-3237 are having a long vacation.

Can't use the 8-car R-179s on the (A)

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4 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

So it seems we lost the (C) some time ago.  Like starting March 27.

That means 3150-3237 are having a long vacation.

Can't use the 8-car R-179s on the (A)

The (C) wasn't suspended until the early evening of the 29th. Prior to that every other (A) Train went local.

 

On another note bunch of those R179s are laid up at 207th Street Yard.

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59 minutes ago, Daniel The Cool said:
5 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

So it seems we lost the (C) some time ago.  Like starting March 27.

That means 3150-3237 are having a long vacation.

Can't use the 8-car R-179s on the (A)

The (C) wasn't suspended until the early evening of the 29th. Prior to that every other (A) Train went local.

 

On another note bunch of those R179s are laid up at 207th Street Yard.

Thank you.  I gathered that 207 Street Yard must be packed with stored equipment right now.

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1 hour ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

Once every 20 minutes according to the MTA website. Not sure if they’re still running Lefferts-bound (A) trains local.

Looks like (A) trains are express now in Brooklyn .(C) is every 12 minutes now 

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 The incident. Didn’t want to post it because I sorta couldn’t tell from the lighting if it was a different model

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1 minute ago, Union Tpke said:

 

At this point, I’m praying to god the R211s do much better than the R179s.

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I'd expect there to be concerns if that were to happen with any class, but given the fact that it involved the R179s, oh boy.

It's basically the Grumman 870 debacle all over again...

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If this is a manufacturing fault, I have to wonder at what point does the MTA just sue Bombardier for a complete breach of contract? How many major incidents must occur before they're held responsible in a fashion more than just giving the MTA a couple more cars? If this decoupling happened in one of the river tunnels or on an incline, this could've been disastrous. Bombardier was paid to produce and deliver a series of train cars that would last several decades and replace the ancient cars that are in service at the time. With the latest major incident, these new cars are once again out of service indefinitely while the situation is investigated. We cannot afford to keep a bunch of 43 ton paper weights lying around unused because they're unsafe to operate.

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R179 out of service for the second time in a row. Now I can see why Bombardier almost went out of business and Alstom took over their train manufacturing division. The R179s have a really bleak future here... 

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14 minutes ago, Lance said:

If this is a manufacturing fault, I have to wonder at what point does the MTA just sue Bombardier for a complete breach of contract? How many major incidents must occur before they're held responsible in a fashion more than just giving the MTA a couple more cars? If this decoupling happened in one of the river tunnels or on an incline, this could've been disastrous. Bombardier was paid to produce and deliver a series of train cars that would last several decades and replace the ancient cars that are in service at the time. With the latest major incident, these new cars are once again out of service indefinitely while the situation is investigated. We cannot afford to keep a bunch of 43 ton paper weights lying around unused because they're unsafe to operate.

I'm really hoping that this is an isolated incident, rather than a manufacturing fault.

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This is why the JACKASSES Should have never retired a single R32 yet. I knew this would happen. They kept covering up the problems and this happens.

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10 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

This is why the JACKASSES Should have never retired a single R32 yet. I knew this would happen. They kept covering up the problems and this happens.

There's no proof it was a manufacturing issue right now. Wait until more info about this incident is released.

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Supposedly the same thing happened to a Bombardier R142 on the curve between 138th and 149th many years ago.

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Looking back on the Pullman/Rockwell fiasco of the late '70s, the R32/42s may well end up becoming this decade's R16s- pressed back into service because the 'train of the future' turns out to be a lemon.

Then again, I wouldn't put it past Cuomo to prevent the old cars from returning even if the R179 situation became truly dire, him being the optics-obsessed egomaniac that he is (and always was)...

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Unfortunately can’t provide details because they aren’t set in stone (and not public info yet) but there may be some car shuffling to make service in response to the temporary removal of the R179s from service.

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1 minute ago, Dj Hammers said:

Unfortunately can’t provide details because they aren’t set in stone (and not public info yet) but there may be some car shuffling to make service in response to the temporary removal of the R179s from service.

I presume R68As from the (B) are in play.

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https://www.thecity.nyc/2020/6/3/21279505/undesired-uncoupling-leads-mta-to-pull-264-new-subway-cars-out-of-service

Until the latest problem, 264 of the agency’s 318 R179 fleet had been in service. They were pulled within hours of the uncoupling, according to spokesperson Meredith Daniels, who added that the agency has enough spare cars that it won’t need to move older units from its yards back into service.

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