darkstar8983 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9226 Posted June 5, 2020 During the 2012 summer swap where the used only R46s, the used 18 R160A trains and only 2 R42s were needed for the ,while the and were fully R143/R160A cars. What could be done is subtract a couple of trains from rush hour service to provide only 18 TPH instead of 20TPH to slightly increase the spare factor. Maybe you could not run the train while keeping the on a 7-8 minute headway also to keep spare factors reasonable. as for the mainline, the can run with all R46s, maybe on a reduced headway of every 10-12 minutes (subtracting two train sets needed), and the Rockaway Park trains could be suspended too (subtracting five trains needed). Also the could maybe be shortened to 145 St instead of Bedford Park Blvd, or run reduced service on the to free up some R46s to be moved to Pitkin. If there’s really a pinch, slightly reduce train service and shift a couple of R160s to Coney Island to offset the loss of R46s. A very slight reduction across the board along all the lettered lines is a softer blow than just dropping one subway route altogether 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9227 Posted June 5, 2020 11 hours ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: I don’t know. Hopefully sooner rather than later because Transit will very likely be caught flat-footed if the entire R179 fleet is still sidelined come Monday morning. What is it with the R32’s HVAC units that they always seem to have more problems than any other fleet? It’s been happening for many years. Maybe my memory of the other 60-foot SMEE-era cars (R38, R40 and R42) and the 75-footers rebuilt in the late 80s/early 90s is failing me, but I don’t recall the other cars’ A/C units having so much trouble. Granted, the R32s cars didn’t have A/C originally (I remember those days when they were a mainstay on the ), but wasn’t the big GOH which completely gutted their interiors and took away their front marker lights and roll signs supposed to rectify this? The R32 compressors overheat in hot tunnels and thus the A/C shutting off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9228 Posted June 5, 2020 11 hours ago, happy283 said: Lets say the R32 does not come back, then what will car assignments and service leves look like this Monday when they want full service to resume? They need to bring them back if the R179's are not ready by Monday. We need more trains so we don't have overcrowding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9229 Posted June 5, 2020 Since the cats out of the bag, Some R32s are making the move to the and heading to ENY for revenue service. Also there may be some more swaps on the way but what kind of swaps is unknown at this time. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9230 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Since the cats out of the bag, Some R32s are making the move to the and heading to ENY for revenue service. Also there may be some more swaps on the way but what kind of swaps is unknown at this time. Some R32's were being sent to Pitkin as well Looks like I was correct, half of them on the with the other on the with probably a small amount on the Edited June 5, 2020 by R32 3838 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9231 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Since the cats out of the bag, Some R32s are making the move to the and heading to ENY for revenue service. Also there may be some more swaps on the way but what kind of swaps is unknown at this time. Any plans to reactivate the R42s? (Doubt that they will though given that they have already been officially retired, are in even worse shape than the R32s, and are such a small fleet that it probably makes more sense economically to just cut some trips instead of running those cars). Edited June 5, 2020 by R68OnBroadway clarified statement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9232 Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, R68OnBroadway said: Any plans to reactivate the R42s? (Doubt that they will though given that they have already been officially retired, are in even worse shape than the R32s, and are such a small fleet that it probably makes more sense economically to just cut some trips then run those cars). No they are not coming back at all. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1998NewFlyer Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9233 Posted June 5, 2020 The r32s just cant R.I.P 😂😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9234 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, trainfan22 said: The R32 compressors overheat in hot tunnels and thus the A/C shutting off. True...I can see the rigors of an entirely underground line (as well as the and before 2008) playing hell with the compressors. It just seems to be the most acute with the R32s versus other cars. The R46s don’t seem to have it as bad, even after decades on the entirely underground and now the . Edited June 5, 2020 by T to Dyre Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9235 Posted June 5, 2020 R32s is like you thought we were done and now we are back for some more action. Warriors of the Subways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMyself Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9236 Posted June 5, 2020 @R32 3838 Seems like someone already posted the move on YouTube: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9237 Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, R68OnBroadway said: (Doubt that they will though given that they have already been officially retired, are in even worse shape than the R32s, and are such a small fleet that it probably makes more sense economically to just cut some trips instead of running those cars). That's an entirely reasonable assumption. Besides, even if the R42s did come back, I don't see what the point would be of having them on the /. Maybe they'd make sense as rush hour 10-car trains on the (free up 40-50 more R32s for East New York to mitigate the air-conditioning issues), otherwise there's probably not much sense in it.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9238 Posted June 5, 2020 There will be R160s on the line.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1998NewFlyer Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9239 Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, bwwnyc123 said: R32s is like you thought we were done and now we are back for some more action. Warriors of the Subways. Forreal 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9240 Posted June 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, SubBus said: There will be R160s on the line.... And possibly R32s on the 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9241 Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, SubBus said: There will be R160s on the line.... Do you mean the because I didnt hear of any 10 car transfers to Pitkin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9242 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, happy283 said: Do you mean the because I didnt hear of any 10 car transfers to Pitkin. There was one that's 10-cars for the just now: 9268-72/9333-7. The has 8329-32/8341-4, and 8357-60/8369-72: 8-cars each. Edited June 5, 2020 by Calvin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9243 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Calvin said: There was one that's 10-cars for the just now: 9268-72/9333-7. The has 8329-32/8341-4, and 8357-60/8369-72: 8-cars each. There are least 3 more R160 sets heading to the line.... Edited June 5, 2020 by SubBus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9244 Posted June 5, 2020 How long will they be on the ? How long will the R179 be oos? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9245 Posted June 5, 2020 4 hours ago, SimplyMyself said: @R32 3838 Seems like someone already posted the move on YouTube: Lol, the RFW is roped off, no RFW for you railfans! With that being said, I'm seeing in this thread that 160s are heading to the line!?!?! Between R46 running on the West End this weekend ( is rerouted via the West End this weekend) and possibly 160s running on the , who cares about R32s coming back lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9246 Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: Lol, the RFW is roped off, no RFW for you railfans! The RFW being roped off was probably a demand of the union considering they didnt want the R32s back at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9247 Posted June 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, SubBus said: There are least 3 more R160 sets heading to the line.... Will they all start service on Monday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9248 Posted June 5, 2020 Can someone confirm if they saw an R143 going to 207th St?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9249 Posted June 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, happy283 said: Will they all start service on Monday? Most likely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9250 Posted June 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Can someone confirm if they saw an R143 going to 207th St?? no, only R160s thus far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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