R179 Discussion Thread

[R32 3838]

1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

In terms of frequency yes. So far, all the trains have been running on a weekday non-rush hour schedule. In other words, no B to the Bronx, no Z trains, no express 6 and 7 trains and no A to Rockaway park.

We have to wait and see how often the A and C will run tomorrow.

Trains are running, & service is running as well the to bedford park all on modified schedules.

 

[subwaycommuter1983]

58 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

Trains are running, & service is running as well the to bedford park all on modified schedules.

 

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

[subwaycommuter1983]

Even the Cuomo refurbished r160's are running on the A.

 

[T to Dyre Avenue]

19 hours ago, Maxwell179 said:

I thought someone said the  was running at one point 

It is, but unless you click on the actual stations the  stops at on its line map, you wouldn’t know. They have the  listed next to the 42nd St  in the “No Scheduled Service” section. But the line map shows a Jamaica-bound  stopping at Essex at 5:02.

[happy283]

2 hours ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

It is, but unless you click on the actual stations the  stops at on its line map, you wouldn’t know. They have the  listed next to the 42nd St  in the “No Scheduled Service” section. But the line map shows a Jamaica-bound  stopping at Essex at 5:02.

They have “no scheduled service” posted under status during middays and night hours because the  doesnt run middays or nights. It posts essential schedule during the times when it is scheduled to run.

[T to Dyre Avenue]

3 hours ago, happy283 said:

They have “no scheduled service” posted under status during middays and night hours because the  doesnt run middays or nights. It posts essential schedule during the times when it is scheduled to run.

True that the  doesn’t run middays or nights. In fact it only runs for about an hour during both the morning and evening rush. But I looked at the MTA website between 4:45 and 5:00 PM today - which is during rush hours - and saw it listed there, so I wondered if maybe it might have been suspended (it wasn’t - I checked the train times at Essex and Broadway Junction, both which showed the  stopping there).

[happy283]

12 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

True that the  doesn’t run middays or nights. In fact it only runs for about an hour during both the morning and evening rush. But I looked at the MTA website between 4:45 and 5:00 PM today - which is during rush hours - and saw it listed there, so I wondered if maybe it might have been suspended (it wasn’t - I checked the train times at Essex and Broadway Junction, both which showed the  stopping there).

The first departure I believe is 4:55pm from Broad St so something may have not updated yet.

[Rigojefte Galo]

On 1/7/2011 at 11:29 AM, LRG said:

Cool, I hope the award goes to Kawasaki.

I mean R179 is made from bombardier and R142 is also made from bombardier but when the R179 is return to service because I'm hoping the R179 comes back soon is my favorite subway cars.

[Rigojefte Galo]

On 1/7/2011 at 11:29 AM, LRG said:

Cool, I hope the award goes to Kawasaki.

I mean R179 is made from bombardier and R142 is also made from bombardier when the R179 comes back soon because I'm hoping R179 is fix.

[trainfan22]

There's two sets of R179 stored at Canarsie Yard, one of them is signed up as the

[happy283]

Any estimate on when the R179 will return?

[Bill from Maspeth]

15 hours ago, happy283 said:

Any estimate on when the R179 will return?

They are out of service till FUTHER NOTICE.

[bwwnyc123]

Hopefully they will get them all fixed up really good and bring them back into service soon.  Just like all of the other Subway cars in service now had flaws and issues too when they first started, and then they kept on fixing them and now they are so reliable.

Edited June 14, 2020 by bwwnyc123

[subwaycommuter1983]

26 minutes ago, bwwnyc123 said:

Hopefully they will get them all fixed up really good and bring them back into service soon.  Just like all of the other Subway cars in service now had flaws and issues too when they first started, and then they kept on fixing them and now they are so reliable.

It's a good thing that these issues are happening now, when the r179's are still under warranty and ridership is very low. And yes, give it a couple of years and the r179's will be very reliable.

Also, let's cross our fingers with the r211's. Hopefully, they won't encounter as many issues as with other fleets.

[subwaycommuter1983]

15 hours ago, happy283 said:

Any estimate on when the R179 will return?

No information yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they enter service when phase 2 of reopening kicks in.

Edited June 14, 2020 by subwaycommuter1983

[Rigojefte Galo]

1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

It's a good thing that these issues are happening now, when the r179's are still under warranty and ridership is very low. And yes, give it a couple of years and the r179's will be very reliable.

Also, let's cross our fingers with the r211's. Hopefully, they won't encounter as many issues as with other fleets.

I'm ready for R211 also it will replacing R44 from SIR and R46 from subway and I'm ready for R262 also it will replacing R62 and R62A in 4 more years.

[happy283]

6 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

They are out of service till FUTHER NOTICE.

I am aware of that. I was asking if there has been any notice of their return but based on your response that doesnt look like the case.

[Bill from Maspeth]

16 hours ago, happy283 said:

I am aware of that. I was asking if there has been any notice of their return but based on your response that doesnt look like the case.

NYCT and all MTA agencies operate very military like.  That is there are different chains of command.  Anybody who has ever worked there finds this out very quickly.   Every chain has their own set of responsibilities.  It all ends at the governors office.  Cuomo is the real head of the MTA.  The governors office has, no doubt, a big hand in the decisions about the R179's both in being removed from service and when they come back.  Nobody here, even if they had a spy in the governors office, is going to say anything.  The decision on when they come back rests with the highest levels of MTA management and the governors office in consultation with the highest suits with the Bombardier Corporation and the highest suits in the company or companies who supplied the failed hardware. 

I realize you want an answer.  There isn't one.  This is why to cover themselves from daily questions and not to put a limit on it, management says "FURTHER NOTICE".  The answer is not as simple as the Maytag guy coming to fix a your broken washing machine.

FURTHER NOTICE means they'll be back when they're back.

Sorry I can't give you the answer you desire, but anybody else in MTA management will tell you the same thing.  Be patient.

 

Edited June 15, 2020 by Bill from Maspeth

[happy283]

55 minutes ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

NYCT and all MTA agencies operate very military like.  That is there are different chains of command.  Anybody who has ever worked there finds this out very quickly.   Every chain has their own set of responsibilities.  It all ends at the governors office.  Cuomo is the real head of the MTA.  The governors office has, no doubt, a big hand in the decisions about the R179's both in being removed from service and when they come back.  Nobody here, even if they had a spy in the governors office, is going to say anything.  The decision on when they come back rests with the highest levels of MTA management and the governors office in consultation with the highest suits with the Bombardier Corporation and the highest suits in the company or companies who supplied the failed hardware. 

I realize you want an answer.  There isn't one.  This is why to cover themselves from daily questions and not to put a limit on it, management says "FURTHER NOTICE".  The answer is not as simple as the Maytag guy coming to fix a your broken washing machine.

FURTHER NOTICE means they'll be back when they're back.

Sorry I can't give you the answer you desire, but anybody else in MTA management will tell you the same thing.  Be patient.

 

This was very helpful. Thanks!

[SubBus]

You guys got about a  45-50% chance of getting a R160 on the ....

Edited June 15, 2020 by SubBus

[Around the Horn]

 

[R32 3838]

35 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

 

 

Ether way or the other this is bad

[Lex]

1 hour ago, Around the Horn said:

 

They need to throw the book at Bombardier.

[happy283]

1 hour ago, Around the Horn said:

 

Hopefully they never come back. They should order 318 more R211s as part of the option to take their place.

[Dj Hammers]

Word is that while the problem that caused the train separation was quickly identified and fixed, they’re doing a more comprehensive analysis to square away any other potential issues so they don’t have to keep pulling them.