R179 Discussion Thread

[subwaycommuter1983]

12 hours ago, Calvin said:

A set has re-entered passenger service on the  (R179) . The R160s may still be on the line filling in for the other tested trains in-service.

I rode that set this afternoon from 125th Street to Fulton street. It ran slow around 42nd Street due to track work. Other than that, it was a smooth ride.

[m2fwannabe]

On 10/3/2020 at 11:13 PM, subwaycommuter1983 said:

On 10/3/2020 at 10:57 AM, Calvin said:

A set has re-entered passenger service on the  (R179) . The R160s may still be on the line filling in for the other tested trains in-service.

I rode that set this afternoon from 125th Street to Fulton street. It ran slow around 42nd Street due to track work. Other than that, it was a smooth ride.

It appeared to be 3253-7 and 3248-52.

Unknown why as yet.  Re-test for the fleet was as best known not yet underway.

[Rigojefte Galo]

On 10/5/2020 at 9:55 AM, m2fwannabe said:

It appeared to be 3253-7 and 3248-52.

Unknown why as yet.  Re-test for the fleet was as best known not yet underway.

What about the C train on R179 maybe there testing it to get back in service because so far A train is back on R179. 

Edited October 6, 2020 by Rigojefte Galo
What about the C train on R179?

[m2fwannabe]

On 10/6/2020 at 1:33 PM, Rigojefte Galo said:

On 10/5/2020 at 9:55 AM, m2fwannabe said:

It appeared to be 3253-7 and 3248-52.

Unknown why as yet.  Re-test for the fleet was as best known not yet underway.

What about the C train on R179 maybe there testing it to get back in service because so far A train is back on R179.

The one train on  is just that as yet.  One train shown as released.  Just 10 cars, none others.

Nothing at all yet about those from .  Planned assignments were not as yet solidified.

[m2fwannabe]

The 64 Re-testing R-179s as of October 5 were:

3050-53, 3058-61, 3066-73, 3078-85, 3098-3121, 3126-29, 3134-45.

These were configured into 8, 8-car trains on  as projected.

One 10-car train (3248-57) has also been released on .

Two 8-car trains of R-32s were also on the  cycle (somewhere).

There is still no apparent status change for the R-32 fleet.

[4P3607]

19 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

The 64 Re-testing R-179s as of October 5 were:

3050-53, 3058-61, 3066-73, 3078-85, 3098-3121, 3126-29, 3134-45.

These were configured into 8, 8-car trains on  as projected.

One 10-car train (3248-57) has also been released on .

Two 8-car trains of R-32s were also on the  cycle (somewhere).

There is still no apparent status change for the R-32 fleet.

There's two 10-car R179s on the since a few days ago (3238-47) and no R32s saw service today.

Sort of a random thought but has anyone else gotten pics / vids of an R160 passing over the hammel's eye connector? There's a train that deadheads from Far Rock to Rock Park passing over the wye at 6:35 PM and around 7:15 PM as well as one the other way in the AM usually directly behind the (S)huttle after the second out (and another at an unknown time, possibly earlier). I've attempted many times however either only caught R46s or just missed an R160 passing by seconds (at least 5 times now ugh). 

Edited October 8, 2020 by 4P3607

[m2fwannabe]

1 hour ago, 4P3607 said:

21 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

The 64 Re-testing R-179s as of October 5 were:

3050-53, 3058-61, 3066-73, 3078-85, 3098-3121, 3126-29, 3134-45.

These were configured into 8, 8-car trains on  as projected.

One 10-car train (3248-57) has also been released on .

Two 8-car trains of R-32s were also on the  cycle (somewhere).

There is still no apparent status change for the R-32 fleet.

There's two 10-car R179s on the since a few days ago (3238-47) and no R32s saw service today.

Nothing on the paper report of a second  train (yet) through AM of Monday, 5 October.  Three days ago.

[Rigojefte Galo]

3 minutes ago, m2fwannabe said:

Nothing on the paper report of a second  train (yet) through AM of Monday, 5 October.  Three days ago.

Neither on the C train on the paper report yet on R179.

[Rigojefte Galo]

The R32 will retire soon as possible when the R179 is complete working on the J and Z train and then working on the A and C train right now there's 8 trains on 8 cars is on the J and Z line and so far there's only one A train on R179 10 set with R160 10 sets cars and 2 trains on 8 sets R32 on the j and z line for now until further notice to be completed for R179.

Edited October 8, 2020 by Rigojefte Galo

[Lawrence St]

4 hours ago, 4P3607 said:

There's two 10-car R179s on the since a few days ago (3238-47) and no R32s saw service today.

Sort of a random thought but has anyone else gotten pics / vids of an R160 passing over the hammel's eye connector? There's a train that deadheads from Far Rock to Rock Park passing over the wye at 6:35 PM and around 7:15 PM as well as one the other way in the AM usually directly behind the (S)huttle after the second out (and another at an unknown time, possibly earlier). I've attempted many times however either only caught R46s or just missed an R160 passing by seconds (at least 5 times now ugh). 

Yes actually, I believe that becomes one of the AM trips to 59th St from Rockaway Park.

[danielhg121]

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

Yes actually, I believe that becomes one of the AM trips to 59th St from Rockaway Park.

None of the trips actually end at 59th Street anymore.

[Lawrence St]

9 hours ago, danielhg121 said:

None of the trips actually end at 59th Street anymore.

Where do they go to now? 168th St or Dyckman St?

[MHV9218]

10 hours ago, danielhg121 said:

None of the trips actually end at 59th Street anymore.

Wouldn't know it if you looked at the signs along the Rockaway Park spur!

[Bill from Maspeth]

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

Where do they go to now? 168th St or Dyckman St?

Most of the Rock Park trains terminate at 207 because those crews started their work day at Rock Park and have other trips to do.  Some trains from Lefferts and Far Rock terminate at 200th St. and go to the yard because some are midnight crews finishing their workday.

[4P3607]

16 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

Nothing on the paper report of a second  train (yet) through AM of Monday, 5 October.  Three days ago.

Seems like the day after is when they threw the second set out. This morning around 6AM I happened to see two (both?) at the same time crossing by the wye. One of them was 3243-52, unsure what the other was and if there's still only two out. 

[VIP]

22 hours ago, 4P3607 said:

There's two 10-car R179s on the since a few days ago (3238-47) and no R32s saw service today.

The Two R179’s on the  are as they were before being taken out of service. The software delays are still present, and the AAS hasn’t been updated at all. And the R32’s did see service. YOU missed it. 

[VIP]

5 hours ago, 4P3607 said:

Seems like the day after is when they threw the second set out. This morning around 6AM I happened to see two (both?) at the same time crossing by the wye. One of them was 3243-52, unsure what the other was and if there's still only two out. 

South motor 3242-3238/Northbound motor 3247-3243

[JFK Depot]

Was just on a 179 A train... 207th Bound... caught it at Utica and rode it to Jay St.... they are definitely coasting into each stop doing like 10mph or less 

[4P3607]

3 hours ago, VIP said:

The Two R179’s on the  are as they were before being taken out of service. The software delays are still present, and the AAS hasn’t been updated at all. And the R32’s did see service. YOU missed it. 

Make that three, I just witnessed 3263-3272 heading to Far Rockaway.

No, an R32 did not see service today, only thing I missed was you being right. 

 

EDIT: Make that FOUR! 3015-3019 is hooked up to another 32xx and also heading to Far Rock.

Edited October 9, 2020 by 4P3607

[DaPr03]

5 hours ago, JFK Depot said:

Was just on a 179 A train... 207th Bound... caught it at Utica and rode it to Jay St.... they are definitely coasting into each stop doing like 10mph or less 

Caught that same one, it was doing just fine

[4P3607]

Expect to see an increasing amount of R179s return to the in the next few days. Get your R160 shots while you can.

Now it's eyes on when they'll hit the again as eventually they want to remove all or some of the 46s off the as relaying at each terminal with R46s requires paying extra crew or the op walking through the entire train having to relock each storm door as they pass which potentially could cause a delay. Although anything is possible at the moment with the future of the 's equipment considering the only reason 46s returned to the in March was to push out the 32s. 

 

[m2fwannabe]

4 hours ago, 4P3607 said:

Expect to see an increasing amount of R179s return to the in the next few days. Get your R160 shots while you can.

Now it's eyes on when they'll hit the again as eventually they want to remove all or some of the 46s off the as relaying at each terminal with R46s requires paying extra crew or the op walking through the entire train having to relock each storm door as they pass which potentially could cause a delay. Although anything is possible at the moment with the future of the 's equipment considering the only reason 46s returned to the in March was to push out the 32s. 

One big reason the full length trains are now on  is for maximization of distancing, which will probably require them to stay until the health issues are resolved in the future.

In fact, would it not be possible to use the 10-car R-179s on  as well as  for the same reason?

When or if (i.e. where?) the former fleet from  (3146-3237) is to be restored is uncertain.

Terminal cost is not a reason to reduce the capacity, sparse as it may seem given the ongoing pandemic.

As I understand the  is now "double-ended" for relays which eliminates the need for a complete walk-through with associated unlock/relock for each car as previously.

[Daniel The Cool]

On 10/8/2020 at 10:25 PM, Lawrence St said:

Yes actually, I believe that becomes one of the AM trips to 59th St from Rockaway Park.

You do realize those AM trips to 59th Street hasn't happened since 2004? They were extended to 168th Street and Dyckman Street and as of 2013 to 207th Street. 

[Lawrence St]

16 minutes ago, Daniel The Cool said:

You do realize those AM trips to 59th Street hasn't happened since 2004? They were extended to 168th Street and Dyckman Street and as of 2013 to 207th Street. 

Look down...

On 10/9/2020 at 10:18 AM, MHV9218 said:

Wouldn't know it if you looked at the signs along the Rockaway Park spur!

 

[trainfan22]

There was 10 car set sitting between stations S/B between Nostrand and Kingston-Throop Ave, NIS. Eventually it passed my train and went though Utica Ave.

 

 

My stopped at Utica, riders boarded and exited, my train left and caught up to that same OOS R179 set! That 179 had to have an mechanical problem of some sort, as the 179s are leaps and bound faster than the R46.

 

There was also a large gap in service as I had JUST missed a train, 10 minutes later no came and a C train came... this was due to an gap in service cause an train had to be removed from service at 175th street.