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I'll go for Alstom..... Just like Kawasaki did the small order of R143s and big order of R160Bs, Alstom did their big order of R160As and hopefully their small order of R179s.

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What's wrong with Rotem?

 

IMO nothing at all theyre just way behind schedule at building our emus and the cars have had a few more teething issues then what they should have as well as a kinda crappy problematic hvac system

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Okay, then. How about Siemens AG as a potential builder?

 

They have a lot of experience with metro construction in Europe and Asia, plus some experience in the Americas (i.e. Boston and San Juan).

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Siemens actually has experience in the NYC Subway they built the propulsion systems for the R160's. Kawasaki, and Bombardier has experience, because they had built NYC Subway cars. Westinghouse also has experience building propulsion systems for the NYC Subway. Even General Electric does, because they built the R110B's propulsion. Adtranz built the R143's propulsion. I can't name any others, because they are either bankrupt, or no longer building passenger cars.

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Really? :P Budd is awesome sadly they are not around any more.

 

Budd is around, they only don't make railcars anymore. Too bad, 'cause they made the longest lasting cars with a good design and of course the still beautiful Zephyr (both locomotive and rounded end car).

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That's because no one here even me knows that company till you mentioned it, and anyways they might not have any experience building NYC Subway cars. Most likely the company that will build these cars is Kawasaki.

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Kawasaki is busy with a pa5 order to finish and a M8 order as well to build. so a R179 will not be able to build it in 2 years.

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How about Bombardier, or Westinghouse. Those companies are, and can be possible builders too. Westinghouse, Kawasaki, and Bombardier built the R68's. Bombardier also built the R110B's, and the R142's.

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Hey why doesn't Alstom build the R179's. They are good subway car builders too. Also since I found out a bit more information the R68's were built by Westinghouse. The R68A's were built by Kawasaki. Alstom, and another company called Jeumont Schneider helped complete some of the R68 cars. Jeumont Schneider is now called Schneider Electrics. Though Schneider Electric also no longer builds train cars. They only focus on electrics so don't expect them to build cars anytime soon.

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Also since I found out a bit more information the R68's were built by Westinghouse. The R68A's were built by Kawasaki.

Yea I said that in the post above you.:P

Anyways Gooooo Bombardier!!!!

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Since Bombardier's plant is in upstate New York if the cars are built by Bombardier they would most likely be born in this state making them Canadian-American rail cars. The company is Canadian, but it was born in this state thus it's American.

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Since Bombardier's plant is in upstate New York if the cars are built by Bombardier they would most likely be born in this state making them Canadian-American rail cars. The company is Canadian, but it was born in this state thus it's American.

They built some good trains.Idk maybe they're too expensive for the MTA.

Going from the Bi-Levels for NJT to the M-7's.

 

And btw the manufacturing facilities in New York State and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

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That's because no one here even me knows that company till you mentioned it, and anyways they might not have any experience building NYC Subway cars. Most likely the company that will build these cars is Kawasaki.

 

Well, they made LA Metro's P865 and P2020 light rail cars. Nippon Sharyo railcars are heavily used in Tokyo and Nagoya.

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I don't know, but now it seems like Bombardier is the most potential contractor for the R179. If they are I just hope the propulsion like I have had said sounds like the R143 with Siemens Propulsion or the R110A with Adtranz Propulsion.

 

 

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Not being mean, but I think the (MTA) might pick someone with experience in building subway cars for the NYC Subway. Companies that I mentioned has a better chance of getting a contract with the NYC Subway due to past experience. The NYC Subway cars from a reading I did a long time ago goes through the most extreme tests to see if it can survive in this city, and the climate before a large contract is ordered.

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It will Be Kawasaki

 

Bomberdier is not going to want a small order

 

Alstom has a bad reputation due to the fact it took them forever to deliver the R160's

 

and lets just stop foaming and wait, we already have over 1,000 R160's if you are a tech fan foam over those, have respect for the old equipment that's still running today, they wouldn't be around if the R44's didn't have those problems. so please relax and keep cool damn.

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Allshit (i mean alstom) should NEVER build anything at all for NYC again. The end.

 

if this hasn't been said already since I didnt read through all 10 pages lol the MTA is supposed to go with whoever has the offer with the lower price. Me I think they will probably end up with kawasaki or bombardier again; of course it would always nice to see a 3rd party manufacturer come into the subway however.

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