MHV9218 Posted July 1, 2014 Share #1526 Posted July 1, 2014 December(?) Jan, Feb Q1 March April May Q2 June July Aug.. Q3 September Octorber November Q4 right? December? Do you start your weeks on Friday? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 1, 2014 Share #1527 Posted July 1, 2014 The 32s will be retired from revenue service when the 179s come. You guys should be happy the 44s had issues so the 32s could stick around for a extra five years or so. Besides they saved a pair or two for the museum so you will always be able to ride them once or twice a year. This... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted July 2, 2014 Share #1528 Posted July 2, 2014 What does anybody think the number series will go from-to? (sake of speculation) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted July 2, 2014 Share #1529 Posted July 2, 2014 We've been through this before, but I speculate 3101 on up... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted July 3, 2014 Share #1530 Posted July 3, 2014 I know I know. I am too enthusiastic about R32s. I am sorry when I get like this. So, you rememer when the R32s were on the ? I was little when they were still on the , and I remember something about the being better than the ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted July 3, 2014 Share #1531 Posted July 3, 2014 I know im late, But does any know the final and approved concept for the R179? Will it just be another looking R160 or a new front design? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted July 3, 2014 Share #1532 Posted July 3, 2014 Well, from what I've seen from a mock-up, a slightly updated front. The sides curved like the R160, but instead of one stainless steel stripe, it will look like the M7 where there are two thicker stripes. One above, and one below the windows. I may be wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share #1533 Posted July 4, 2014 R179 program review for those that don't know. Delivery of the first 10-car prototype still set for an on-time or near on-time delivery in the 4th Quarter of this year. Order calls for a base of 260 cars to be arranged in 4-car sets, and 40 to be arranged in 5-car sets. There are no options Prototype will test for about 6 months, and if all goes well, delivery of the production cars should begin in July 2015 First cars tentatively planned for the , , and trains 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1534 Posted July 4, 2014 This would make perfect sense, provided they stick to this plan. Keep the 179s consolidated to as few yards as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSubwayBuff Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1535 Posted July 4, 2014 Wait so that means no R179's on the Quincy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1536 Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) I guess not. Presumably the handful of R179s on the would cause a few R46s to be sent to Jamaica which would in turn cause a few R160s to be sent to Coney Island to be used on the for SAS service, which would accomplish the goal of restricting the R179s to only a few yards. Unless I'm missing something. Edited July 4, 2014 by Mysterious2train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1537 Posted July 4, 2014 There will only be 4 trains of 5-car R179s, with the rest being 8-car sets. 90% of the 's fleet will remain R46s regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1538 Posted July 4, 2014 I guess not. Presumably the handful of R179s on the would cause a few R46s to be sent to Jamaica which would in turn cause a few R160s to be sent to Coney Island to be used on the for SAS service, which would accomplish the goal of restricting the R179s to only a few yards. Unless I'm missing something. I want more R46s on the QBL so I would be pleased! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share #1539 Posted July 4, 2014 Wait so that means no R179's on the Quincy? Not until the train comes online and then only a few may see service on the . There will only be 4 trains of 5-car R179s, with the rest being 8-car sets. 90% of the 's fleet will remain R46s regardless. True. The bulk of the fleet will go to the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R40SlantFan Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1540 Posted July 4, 2014 They should keep 100 R32s in reserve for increased service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1541 Posted July 4, 2014 They should keep 100 R32s in reserve for increased service. if that scenario would occur I would be enthusiastic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1542 Posted July 4, 2014 Okay, let's not get carried away.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 4, 2014 Share #1543 Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) They should keep 100 R32s in reserve for increased service. I'm afraid that's unlikely to happen. The 179 order exists only to replace the rapidly aging 32s and 42s. Once those new trains arrive on property and are cleared for service, the older cars will bite the dust. What does anybody think the number series will go from-to? (sake of speculation) We've been through this before, but I speculate 3101 on up... I was thinking they'd take the old R44 numbers starting at 5201 instead of 5202, but there aren't enough consecutive numbers for all 300 cars without running into the R46 numbers, so yeah, they'd have to start somewhere in the 3000s. Edited July 4, 2014 by Lance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1544 Posted July 5, 2014 Jamaica Yard is gonna be 100% NTT. They won't be taking in any more R46's because that yard needs to be ready for CBTC implementation. If anything, CONEY ISLAND (and therefore the ) might get some 46's once the swapping happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1545 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Interesting, though if Coney Island gets the 46s, I can't see them popping up on the Q. Maybe the N or the few Ds that come out of Coney Island. Every time 46s ran on the Brighton (from the 70s to the present, including during the Sept. 11th contingency), they were pulled almost immediately afterwards due to excessive vibrations reported by homeowners along the line. Edited July 5, 2014 by Lance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1546 Posted July 5, 2014 So the only other option left for the R46s is the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtoon Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1547 Posted July 5, 2014 Would they not retire the R46's and just keep a few for spares? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1548 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) I'm afraid that's unlikely to happen. The 179 order exists only to replace the rapidly aging 32s and 42s. Once those new trains arrive on property and are cleared for service, the older cars will bite the dust. But I wonder what may come of this study of the and they're doing; like if they determine more trains are needed. Edited July 5, 2014 by Eric B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1549 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) But I wonder what may come of this study of the and they're doing; like if they determine more trains are needed. Probably the same thing like the , but I'm sure the already knows that the R32s and R46s are the oldest heaps in the system (not counting the R42s). If they actually determine that the two identical variants are significantly more crowded at their peak load points (Broadway Junction on the express and Lafayette Avenue on the local), then they'll might as well add service. But how much more service do anybody here wants? Normally, the Cranberry Street tube is scheduled to run 26 trains per hour during the 8:00 hour from Monday through Friday on the northbound direction. Not every line is crowded during the middle of the day when many commuters have already reach their work destinations. I mean where are these so-called "overcrowding" issues coming from, according to the complaints? Which stations actually? Midday loads on the aren't significantly high enough to support more frequent service. But of course, some others still continue to say otherwise, so I'll just leave it at that. I've been riding the very frequently enough to determine how service should be frequent. Yeah, it's obviously one of the most crowded lines in the system, but isn't Midtown Manhattan, Lower Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn (New York City's three central business districts) the primarily work destinations for many rush hour/weekend morning & evening commuters? Edited July 5, 2014 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1550 Posted July 5, 2014 But I wonder what may come of this study of the and they're doing; like if they determine more trains are needed. A supervisor did tell me that a chunk of R32's will be in storage for reserve fleet while others will be scattered around for garbage runs to replace the Redbirds that do B div pick ups I wouldn't be surprised if some R32's stay in service because of this unless they order more R179's I wouldn't sleep on the retirements yet because things might change last minute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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