YankeesPwnMets Posted July 26, 2014 Share #1576 Posted July 26, 2014 *facepalm* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 26, 2014 Share #1577 Posted July 26, 2014 We have a delay on the delivery of the test train. Due to welding issues discovered by Bombardier, the test train will be delayed at least six months from its original plan of mid-December. page 30 of http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/140728_1200_CPOC.pdf Damn that sucks, well that means the test train will be here between Late May-July 2015, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted July 26, 2014 Share #1578 Posted July 26, 2014 It's Alstom all over again, Remember the welding problems at Alstom's Lapa, Brazil plant, again history repeats itself Isn't Bombardier producing the cars 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodside7878 Posted July 26, 2014 Share #1579 Posted July 26, 2014 Isn't Bombardier producing the cars It's similar to Alstom's problems when they were building the R160A, R179 test train is going to the same welding problems as the R160A 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share #1580 Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) I mixed some dates up in previous post. R179 program review for those that don't know. Delivery of the first 10-car prototype still set for an on-time or near on-time delivery in the 4th Quarter of this year. Order calls for a base of 260 cars to be arranged in 4-car sets, and 40 to be arranged in 5-car sets. There are no options Prototype will test for 6 months, and if all goes well, delivery of the production cars should begin in July 2015 First cars tentatively planned for the , , and trains Correction: Delivery of the first 10-car prototype still set to be complete in the 4th Quarter of this year. All 10 cars are currently on schedule to be delivered to MTA property by February 2015 Order calls for a base of 260 cars to be arranged in 4-car sets, and 40 to be arranged in 5-car sets. There are no options Prototype will test for several months and if all goes well, delivery of the production cars should be under way by July 2016 First cars tentatively planned for the , , and trains Edited July 27, 2014 by East New York 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 27, 2014 Share #1581 Posted July 27, 2014 Not to doubt your sources, but recent info from the MTA states that because of welding problems at Bombardier, the test train won't be on Transit property until sometime next year and not the original December date that they expected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted July 28, 2014 Share #1582 Posted July 28, 2014 Not to doubt your sources, but recent info from the MTA states that because of welding problems at Bombardier, the test train won't be on Transit property until sometime next year and not the original December date that they expected. Next Year.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share #1583 Posted July 28, 2014 Not to doubt your sources, but recent info from the MTA states that because of welding problems at Bombardier, the test train won't be on Transit property until sometime next year and not the original December date that they expected. That's mentioned in the update above. All the dates are pushed back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 28, 2014 Share #1584 Posted July 28, 2014 More info on the cars http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=1304491&p=1#1304513 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 28, 2014 Share #1585 Posted July 28, 2014 Lmfao. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 28, 2014 Share #1586 Posted July 28, 2014 Well, it's good they're finding these issues now and not after they get here and are put in service. We already did that song and dance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 28, 2014 Share #1587 Posted July 28, 2014 I wasn't even expecting for this to happen. Yeah, good thing they're correcting the problems as of now, so hopefully these cars don't start out as lemons like the 46s and 68s used to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 30, 2014 Share #1588 Posted July 30, 2014 I am happy! R32 Lover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted July 30, 2014 Share #1589 Posted July 30, 2014 I like them too, but I don't want to see them fall apart due to old age. I sure hope Bombardier gets those welding issues resolved and fast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 31, 2014 Share #1590 Posted July 31, 2014 I like them too, but I don't want to see them fall apart due to old age. I sure hope Bombardier gets those welding issues resolved and fast. I don't think they will fall apart The Q types were built in 1903 and 1907 and retired in 1969. The oldest lasted 66 years. I think they will last. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted July 31, 2014 Share #1591 Posted July 31, 2014 Why bother Bombardier .... I would give some time for Bombardier to built R179... At least this is the first time Bombardier built B division car 60' footers ..... At least we are riding Kawasaki Rail Car in B division mostly that R68 , R143 , R160 & Alstom car R160/A....... Why compare Pullman car R46 that 75' footers & Bombardier did mostly built A division car R62A & R142A.. Mostly there is 1,854 cars of Bombardier running A division car that it ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted July 31, 2014 Share #1592 Posted July 31, 2014 I don't think they will fall apart The Q types were built in 1903 and 1907 and retired in 1969. The oldest lasted 66 years. I think they will last. The Q Types were made of wood bodies (though they had some steel in them). Plus wood was easy to come by back then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted August 1, 2014 Share #1593 Posted August 1, 2014 Supremely disappointing news, but not shocking from Bombardier. They've put up stinkers lately with CTA and now this fail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted August 1, 2014 Share #1594 Posted August 1, 2014 My own word I am figuring out some people did not want Bombardier to built R179... It look there might be recall of a Bombardier car lol joking.... Come on everyone .... I know I am supporter full width cab ... Not a half width cab... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted August 1, 2014 Share #1595 Posted August 1, 2014 My own word I am figuring out some people did not want Bombardier to built R179... It look there might be recall of a Bombardier car lol joking.... Come on everyone .... I know I am supporter full width cab ... Not a half width cab... If you're going to say anything, please use proper sentences and coherent thoughts. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 6, 2014 Share #1596 Posted August 6, 2014 Or lay off on the excessive periods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 22, 2014 Share #1597 Posted August 22, 2014 It's inda like R40m vs R42 - Andy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted August 22, 2014 Share #1598 Posted August 22, 2014 You could say that about the R143s and R160s as well. At least R40Ms and R42s were able to operate together in the same train, before and after GOH. These probably won't - and I'm almost certain you'll never see an R179 set operating in the same train with an R160 set. At least not in passenger service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 22, 2014 Share #1599 Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) You could say that about the R143s and R160s as well. At least R40Ms and R42s were able to operate together in the same train, before and after GOH. These probably won't - and I'm almost certain you'll never see an R179 set operating in the same train with an R160 set. At least not in passenger service. I agree. I think that the main issue might be the fact that the two types of cars may have different propulsion systems. It very well could be done without coupler adapters, as you stated however it may not be practical to do so for many reasons. Probably a similar reason as to why the MTA avoids the practice of mixing up R160As and R160Bs. Edited August 22, 2014 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtoon Posted August 22, 2014 Share #1600 Posted August 22, 2014 I agree. I think that the main issue might be the fact that the two types of cars may have different propulsion systems. It very well could be done without coupler adapters, as you stated however it may not be practical to do so for many reasons. Probably a similar reason as to why the MTA avoids the practice of mixing up R160As and R160Bs. You mean the Siemens R160B's and Alstom R160A's? Just asking as I'm positive I've seen Alstom A/B together 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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