ttcsubwayfan Posted November 13, 2015 Share #2001 Posted November 13, 2015 And why not? What would they have to gain by making this up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted November 13, 2015 Share #2002 Posted November 13, 2015 NYCSubway.org may be horribly outdated but stuff like that should probably be accurate... I assume. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 14, 2015 Share #2003 Posted November 14, 2015 NYCSubway is very accurate when in comes to that kind of information (service dates and delivery dates,etc) They painstakingly took notes during the delivery process,verified the notes for accuracy then put them up on the site. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtoon Posted November 14, 2015 Share #2004 Posted November 14, 2015 Don't get why they have such a track record with delays, as the London Underground order for the new S Stock was built by Bombardier on time I think.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted November 15, 2015 Share #2005 Posted November 15, 2015 Don't get why they have such a track record with delays, as the London Underground order for the new S Stock was built by Bombardier on time I think.. Also car assignments are so outdated , best example the sight claims R42s still run on the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share #2006 Posted November 16, 2015 Ok, A bit of an update for you all. Everyone can argue with me as usual if you want, but I was told by someone that the news reports exaggerated the delivery timetable of the R179's just a bit. However, because MTA rejected the pilot (as I told you all they would) so anything is possible. As of right now this is what we are looking at. Money going into the program in 2016, a gap in 2017, and additional funding in 2018 and 2019 indicates the pilot may come sometime late next year, test throughout 2017, and begin delivery sometime in 2018. Not 2020. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 16, 2015 Share #2007 Posted November 16, 2015 Ok, A bit of an update for you all. Everyone can argue with me as usual if you want, but I was told by someone that the news reports exaggerated the delivery timetable of the R179's just a bit. However, because MTA rejected the pilot (as I told you all they would) so anything is possible. As of right now this is what we are looking at. Money going into the program in 2016, a gap in 2017, and additional funding in 2018 and 2019 indicates the pilot may come sometime late next year, test throughout 2017, and begin delivery sometime in 2018. Not 2020. Are you sure this isn't R211 related? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 16, 2015 Share #2008 Posted November 16, 2015 Are you sure this isn't R211 related? Yeah it is.The R179 order isn't 940 cars unless something changed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share #2009 Posted November 17, 2015 You guys are correct. That for point out that I posted the wrong document. The schedule however is as posted. It's expected that Bombardier will rework the train in 2016, deliver a pilot in 2017, and begin production delivery in late 2018 or early 2019 and run through 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay85 Posted November 17, 2015 Share #2010 Posted November 17, 2015 I heard the plot train was number 3000-3009 a 10car train. It's possible the R179 production delivery may ran the into R211 delivery schedule. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted November 18, 2015 Share #2011 Posted November 18, 2015 I heard the plot train was number 3000-3009 a 10car train. It's possible the R179 production delivery may ran the into R211 delivery schedule. It was an error 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted November 18, 2015 Share #2012 Posted November 18, 2015 The pilot train is still 3001-3010 the last time I checked unless they changed it. But there is a rumor that they are reusing the good parts from the original test train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 18, 2015 Share #2013 Posted November 18, 2015 The pilot train is still 3001-3010 the last time I checked unless they changed it. But there is a rumor that they are reusing the good parts from the original test train. No they are not...If they did this, they would have breached the contract... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted November 18, 2015 Share #2014 Posted November 18, 2015 Don't get why they have such a track record with delays, as the London Underground order for the new S Stock was built by Bombardier on time I think.. Yeah but that's in Europe the American factory is a diffrent story on the other hand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted November 19, 2015 Share #2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Hey, I just said it was a rumor, that is all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted November 25, 2015 Share #2016 Posted November 25, 2015 No they are not...If they did this, they would have breached the contract At this point I really wouldn't be surprised if they did that rumor or not Bombardier is starting to feel like Design Line and we remember what happened to them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 25, 2015 Share #2017 Posted November 25, 2015 Design Line wasn't as big as Bombardier is. Even if they somehow lost the NYMTA as a client, they still have the London Underground and various other European companies to build for. They'd still be afloat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 2, 2015 Share #2018 Posted December 2, 2015 Wait so the R179's will replace the R46's, the R32's, and some R68's? That means that the and will get some R179's right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted December 2, 2015 Share #2019 Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) They're bound to replace the rest of the R32s & R42s. The R46s I believe if I'm correct or not are going to be replaced by the R211s. The R68/As aren't going anywhere anytime soon. But, since the R32s specifically will remain another several years with the R179 delivery process, they're replace what's left of the R42s and the rest I can only speculate on. Edited December 2, 2015 by jon2305 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted December 2, 2015 Share #2020 Posted December 2, 2015 They're bound to replace the rest of the R32s & R42s. The R46s I believe if I'm correct or not are going to be replaced by the R211s. The R68/As aren't going anywhere anytime soon.some or all R32s will stay to increase the size of the fleet for SAS and service frequency increases 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 2, 2015 Share #2021 Posted December 2, 2015 The R179's aren't replacing R32's, and if it were to be the case only very few cars would retire, but the R42's are going, all remaining R32's will be replaced by the R211 order 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtoon Posted December 2, 2015 Share #2022 Posted December 2, 2015 So what are the R179's replacing? Can't just be the R42? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted December 3, 2015 Share #2023 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Most of the R32s. It's just that more cars are needed since passenger numbers are surging. Because of that, some will remain. So the R211 will finish the job. Edited December 3, 2015 by LTA1992 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 3, 2015 Share #2024 Posted December 3, 2015 In the history of MTA car orders, weren't car orders suppose to be delivered in order of their numbers like R62 first, then R62A, then R68? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 3, 2015 Share #2025 Posted December 3, 2015 In the history of MTA car orders, weren't car orders suppose to be delivered in order of their numbers like R62 first, then R62A, then R68? The R142s and R142As were coming in at the same time, the plot trains of both sets came in like 99, and both started taking over the & lines at the same time in 2000. There was a point where the TA was getting new 142s, 142As and 143s cars at the same time! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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