Javier Posted December 16, 2015 Share #2051 Posted December 16, 2015 So that means that the / are going to be balanced out with SMEE's and NTT's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 16, 2015 Share #2052 Posted December 16, 2015 JAMAICA!! Exactly, those are sets YOU notice the most, doesn't mean That's what's assigned to the ive seen 99xx and 97xx mainly on that line; hell even the 91xx ...it's whatever is left to spare from the yard or the layup tracks. I never once said there were certain R160's assigned to the . All I did was note which number series of R160s, which as a regular rider of the , I notice the most and the number series I see the least on a daily basis.That's all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 16, 2015 Share #2053 Posted December 16, 2015 The R32's will be placed elsewhere once all the R179's hit the , ENY might keep about 50-80 R32's for expanded service while the rest would go to where they're needed, 207th, CIY and Jamaica are the only 3 choices, it would be logical to put them on the and send even more R46's back to Jamaica to bump out more R160's to CIY (I can see them doing this) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2054 Posted January 23, 2016 Pics of the 179 finally posted on page 61.... http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/160125_1345_CPOC.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2055 Posted January 23, 2016 Ehh, just another R160 "look a like" as far as the R179 goes. But, the pics of the R211's conceptual rendering seems more interesting to me cause of the route sign on the right side bonnet instead on the of the red LED signage. Hopefully that would be a thing eventually cause I just don't like those (only red) LED route indicators. Also the gangway configuration is diffidently something worth considering IMO. For what it looks like, I think I might actually look forward to the R211s more after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2056 Posted January 23, 2016 I noticed that there seems to be two different looks in the front. I wonder if the 5-Car sets will have the R160 look while the 4-Car will have the original R179 look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2057 Posted January 23, 2016 I noticed that there seems to be two different looks in the front. I wonder if the 5-Car sets will have the R160 look while the 4-Car will have the original R179 look. They still look the same (ie. different from a R160). One appears to have more rounded corners than the other. Also I notice they say that the prototypes will be undergoing testing as the first 20 production cars are assembled and shipped. And if the R179 is really completed, as one of the captions says, why aren't they here already? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2058 Posted January 23, 2016 They still look the same (ie. different from a R160). One appears to have more rounded corners than the other. Also I notice they say that the prototypes will be undergoing testing as the first 20 production cars are assembled and shipped. And if the R179 is really completed, as one of the captions says, why aren't they here already? The second one almost the same as the R160. Pretty much what the original concept looked like. The one shown doing some sort of testing was the newer, squarer on the bottom, look. MY question is, which one was the failure? Why are there two different looks? And to answer the second question: Complete does not mean ready to be shipped. It needs to be tested and audited first before it can come here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwayboy Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2059 Posted January 23, 2016 Anybody know if the 179s will have the same FIND system as the 160s? I can see from those pix the long shiny black glass subway LED route map, but will it also have the LCD video screens embedded on the end therein too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2060 Posted January 23, 2016 There's an issue I see with the R179's being on the : How will the cars hold up to the salt water in Jamaica Bay, which will cause the cars to rust faster? There will also be computer components on the cars which will also regularly be near salt water. (I believe this is the reason why the R44's were retired prematurely as the salt water corroded the frames of the R44's faster than other fleets causing structural integrity problems). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2061 Posted January 23, 2016 The R42 fleet is the only remaining cartype which used Carbon steel for structural elements. Rust is not an issue which needs to be worried about in the future. But for the most part, R179s will not be on the A. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share #2062 Posted January 23, 2016 Anybody know if the 179s will have the same FIND system as the 160s? I can see from those pix the long shiny black glass subway LED route map, but will it also have the LCD video screens embedded on the end therein too? Yes. They are nearly identical to the R160's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2063 Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) But for the most part, R179s will not be on the A. They won't? In the review, it was stated that would be on the . Edited January 23, 2016 by S78 via Hylan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2064 Posted January 23, 2016 A runs 600 foot trains. Nearly all of the R179s will be configured in 240 foot units. All but 40 of them are not able to run on the A without providing a service cut. There is almost no chance that the A will be reduced in length to 480 feet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay85 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2065 Posted January 23, 2016 The R42 fleet is the only remaining cartype which used Carbon steel for structural elements. Rust is not an issue which needs to be worried about in the future. But for the most part, R179s will not be on the A. The 5 car units ones should be on the since the R179's are going to 207th Street yard anyways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwayboy Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2066 Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Anybody know if the 179s will have the same FIND system as the 160s? I can see from those pix the long shiny black glass subway LED route map, but will it also have the LCD video screens embedded on the end therein too? ENY said: "Yes. They are nearly identical to the R160's" Ok, thanks ENY for that, but specifically, will they have the same sort of built in LCD screens? Is there a close up pic of such screens on the 179s? Edited January 23, 2016 by subwayboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2067 Posted January 23, 2016 The 5 car units ones should be on the since the R179's are going to 207th Street yard anyways. I agree, but since that is only 4 trains of R179s (probably 3 considering the need for a spare factor) I said for the most part, they won't be on the A! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2068 Posted January 23, 2016 There's an issue I see with the R179's being on the : How will the cars hold up to the salt water in Jamaica Bay, which will cause the cars to rust faster? There will also be computer components on the cars which will also regularly be near salt water. (I believe this is the reason why the R44's were retired prematurely as the salt water corroded the frames of the R44's faster than other fleets causing structural integrity problems). But it's only going to be four 10-car trains of R179s. They don't have to send them out to the Rockaways. Think of the current R32 and R68 runs in the PM Rush on the . The 5 car units ones should be on the since the R179's are going to 207th Street yard anyways. Pitkin, not 207th. The is based out of Pitkin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2069 Posted January 23, 2016 There's an issue I see with the R179's being on the : How will the cars hold up to the salt water in Jamaica Bay, which will cause the cars to rust faster? There will also be computer components on the cars which will also regularly be near salt water. (I believe this is the reason why the R44's were retired prematurely as the salt water corroded the frames of the R44's faster than other fleets causing structural integrity problems).The R44's suffer from those acid baths they received because of the graffiti from the 70's and 80's and they were made from a different material from the later R46's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2070 Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) I'm at least happy to see the test set almost finished. As for the subway car running on the , I guess the will allow it to operate 207th Street-Lefferts Boulevard only until the Rockaways are really ready for NTTs. Edited January 23, 2016 by TheNewYorkElevated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2071 Posted January 23, 2016 I'm at least happy to see the test set almost finished. As for the subway car running on the , I guess the will allow it to operate 207th Street-Lefferts Boulevard only until the Rockaways are really ready for NTTs. That's right. Exactly what I said before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2072 Posted January 23, 2016 There's an issue I see with the R179's being on the : How will the cars hold up to the salt water in Jamaica Bay, which will cause the cars to rust faster? There will also be computer components on the cars which will also regularly be near salt water. (I believe this is the reason why the R44's were retired prematurely as the salt water corroded the frames of the R44's faster than other fleets causing structural integrity problems). IIRC, Coney Island has the same type of air and the 68s spend a lot of time out there for like 30 years now and they are fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2073 Posted January 23, 2016 ENY said: "Yes. They are nearly identical to the R160's" Ok, thanks ENY for that, but specifically, will they have the same sort of built in LCD screens? Is there a close up pic of such screens on the 179s? Yes. When someone says "nearly identical", that means not much changes. FINDS are going to stay for a while as they are a flexible way to show instant route changes should the need rise as opposed to strip maps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2074 Posted January 23, 2016 Guy's don't forget, the R179's will have a new TOD system for all the signs in the train, which means bigger storage and new code and new programs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 23, 2016 Share #2075 Posted January 23, 2016 But it's only going to be four 10-car trains of R179s. They don't have to send them out to the Rockaways. Think of the current R32 and R68 runs in the PM Rush on the . Pitkin, not 207th. The is based out of Pitkin. If most of the 8 car units are out of 207th, the 10 cars will be as well, the can also have cars housed at 207th, years ago both and used R38's out of 207th and R32's out of pitkin yard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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