East New York Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share #2301 Posted March 29, 2016 I agree and they could send the R160 back to ENY to replace the R32 Yes the will be first, however, the R179's are replacing all the R32's. This means that they technically don't have to send anything back to ENY. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2302 Posted March 29, 2016 Yes the will be first, however, the R179's are replacing all the R32's. This means that they technically don't have to send anything back to ENY. I have heard that some of them would be kept until the R211s would come. Is this false. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2303 Posted March 29, 2016 ENY, I am NOT by any means questioning your information or trying to act as if I know more than you, but it has been mentioned that some R32's would stick around for service increases and then be replaced once the R211s arrive. Can you confirm? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2304 Posted March 29, 2016 From what I've heard the R42s are the ones being scrapped while the R32s would be kept for service expansion needs until the R211s show up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2305 Posted March 29, 2016 Yep a good amount of the R32s are staying until the R211s due to service expansion Page 387 in this link says it http://web.mta.info/mta/budget/july2015/MTA_2016_Prelim_Budget_Financial_Plan2016-2019_Vol2.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2306 Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Yep a good amount of the R32s are staying until the R211s due to service expansion Page 387 in this link says it http://web.mta.info/mta/budget/july2015/MTA_2016_Prelim_Budget_Financial_Plan2016-2019_Vol2.pdf And it still has yet to state how many. Edited March 29, 2016 by LTA1992 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2307 Posted March 29, 2016 Those complaints came from Riders Alliance In Brooklyn not from 8th Avenue Riders. But regardless, passengers have complained about them. Here's one quote from a commuter in a Daily News article back in August 2015. "They stop a little harder." One from a New York Times article (here's the link; http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/08/26/nyregion/for-often-late-cars-of-subways-c-train-retirement-must-wait.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/) "It's loud, it's bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2308 Posted March 29, 2016 But regardless, passengers have complained about them. Here's one quote from a commuter in a Daily News article back in August 2015. One from a New York Times article (here's the link; http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/08/26/nyregion/for-often-late-cars-of-subways-c-train-retirement-must-wait.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/) The fact that they stop a little harder is good as they have superior braking systems, therefore saving time. I wish all cars were like that. I also love their screeching. Something railfans would understand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 29, 2016 Share #2309 Posted March 29, 2016 The fact that they stop a little harder is good as they have superior braking systems, therefore saving time. I wish all cars were like that. I also love their screeching. Something railfans would understand. The screeching is their only redeeming quality... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2310 Posted March 30, 2016 I don't know which statement is more preposterous - that the screeching is a positive quality, or that the screeching is the only positive quality these cars have. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2311 Posted March 30, 2016 The fact that they stop a little harder is good as they have superior braking systems, therefore saving time. I wish all cars were like that. I also love their screeching. Something railfans would understand. I DEFINITELY don't understand then... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2312 Posted March 30, 2016 Amazing to think that the R32s have been around since before a man went to the moon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2313 Posted March 30, 2016 The fact that they stop a little harder is good as they have superior braking systems, therefore saving time. I wish all cars were like that. I also love their screeching. Something railfans would understand. I guess I'm different, since I prefer my trains to come to something resembling a smooth stop. I don't like feeling like I'm riding a bronco because of sharp stops. Same thing with sharp take-offs, which is why I don't prefer the 142As as well. I don't know which statement is more preposterous - that the screeching is a positive quality, or that the screeching is the only positive quality these cars have. I don't pretend to understand that kind of logic, so I just toss it up as railfan preference and call it a day. I DEFINITELY don't understand then... Join the club. Amazing to think that the R32s have been around since before a man went to the moon Of course, when you consider that most of the important components were replaced in the late '80s, it becomes a little less remarkable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2314 Posted March 30, 2016 I don't pretend to understand that kind of logic, so I just toss it up as railfan preference and call it a day. As a railfan who is generally enjoys the R32s, I don't understand it either I mean, they have their charm, but it'd be so much better if rides were smooth and quiet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2315 Posted March 30, 2016 Exactly. R32's should not be on a line like the , they should be out in the open, like the Rockaways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2316 Posted March 30, 2016 As a railfan who is generally enjoys the R32s, I don't understand it either I mean, they have their charm, but it'd be so much better if rides were smooth and quiet. I don't know which statement is more preposterous - that the screeching is a positive quality, or that the screeching is the only positive quality these cars have. I'm gonna try to answer this the best I can: I enjoyed the R32s but their time has come in my opinion. I'd much rather get a R160 than an R32 but I still enjoy hearing them screech as they slow to a stop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2317 Posted March 30, 2016 I'm gonna try to answer this the best I can: I enjoyed the R32s but their time has come in my opinion. I'd much rather get a R160 than an R32 but I still enjoy hearing them screech as they slow to a stop. Don't forget RFW's. Those are the things I like about the R32's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2318 Posted March 30, 2016 I guess I'm different, since I prefer my trains to come to something resembling a smooth stop. I don't like feeling like I'm riding a bronco because of sharp stops. Same thing with sharp take-offs, which is why I don't prefer the 142As as well. I don't pretend to understand that kind of logic, so I just toss it up as railfan preference and call it a day. Join the club. Of course, when you consider that most of the important components were replaced in the late '80s, it becomes a little less remarkable. Chronologically speaking, but yes I see your point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B46 via Utica Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2319 Posted March 30, 2016 Wonder what type of propulsion they will have? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2320 Posted March 30, 2016 I love the superior layout of the R32s, the ribbed sides, the screeching, the RFW, the great braking and just the cars in general. Long live R32s! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak706 Posted March 30, 2016 Share #2321 Posted March 30, 2016 Wonder what type of propulsion they will have? Bombardier MITRAC like the R142As and R143s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS9000 Posted March 31, 2016 Share #2322 Posted March 31, 2016 Bombardier MITRAC has changed ever since the R143s, so no one knows for now. Other cars the R179 could sound like (besides past NYC cars) include the Toronto Rocket cars or some of Taipei's oldest cars, which were retrofitted with Bombardier MITRAC systems recently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted March 31, 2016 Share #2323 Posted March 31, 2016 Bombardier MITRAC has changed ever since the R143s, so no one knows for now. Other cars the R179 could sound like (besides past NYC cars) include the Toronto Rocket cars or some of Taipei's oldest cars, which were retrofitted with Bombardier MITRAC systems recently. How do you explain the new 88 factory & 38 C-car R188 sets? Unless Bombardier MITRAC propulsion's changed within the last 2 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS9000 Posted March 31, 2016 Share #2324 Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) How do you explain the new 88 factory & 38 C-car R188 sets? Unless Bombardier MITRAC propulsion's changed within the last 2 years. I don't know all the details about the new R188s featuring the old system, but I heard that they had to bring back that version of MITRAC as it was discontinued. Edited March 31, 2016 by RTS9000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 31, 2016 Share #2325 Posted March 31, 2016 I don't know all the details about the new R188s featuring the old system, but I heard that they had to bring back that version of MITRAC as it was discontinued. Its still around. Most transit authorities go for the more modern system mods but the 1508C is still offered. The R179s will probably have it so they can share parts with the R143 and R142A. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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