lilbluefoxie Posted April 10, 2011 Share #126 Posted April 10, 2011 Rush hours only, the should be brought back. However, I don't see the need for the to go all the way to Bay Pkwy. If there's a demand for more service via the Montegue tunnel to Lower Manhattan, then they can run a couple of those trains to 9th Av and turn back. served stations that had different needs. served mainly residential areas and the ridership was more or less even among the stations. That's why skip stop works better. The and only did a skip stop in way upper manhattan and the bronx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 10, 2011 Share #127 Posted April 10, 2011 Yes, but the basic point about skip stop was that the stops the (1)/(9) served [stops above 96th st] had differen't amt of riders and was uneven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman1455 Posted April 10, 2011 Share #128 Posted April 10, 2011 Right After 9/11 is when service was crazy! Let's not make it crazy again with and trains coming to the west end.. That's a long ass route for no reason. What if they had some Coney Island Layups from the run west end express.. Think About it for a minute most of the crowd get's on at Bay Parkway.. 62nd street is eh.. because of the . But West End Express would help out just a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 10, 2011 Share #129 Posted April 10, 2011 Right After 9/11 is when service was crazy! Let's not make it crazy again with and trains coming to the west end.. That's a long ass route for no reason. What if they had some Coney Island Layups from the run west end express.. Think About it for a minute most of the crowd get's on at Bay Parkway.. 62nd street is eh.. because of the . But West End Express would help out just a little The only reason the was sent to South Brooklyn was because the ( and were incapable of doing so because of the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction project. The was suspended for two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 10, 2011 Share #130 Posted April 10, 2011 The only reason the was sent to South Brooklyn was because the ( and were incapable of doing so because of the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction project. The was suspended for two months. Plus the was suspended and the and picked up the slack in Brooklyn & Queens respectively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted April 10, 2011 Share #131 Posted April 10, 2011 As a resident of the West End Line I don't see any use to express service. Not much people would use it, and it would be peak directional. The West End Line isn't as crazy crowded as the Lexington Avenue Line. It's average. Most people just think it would be cool to look at express service on the line. The real truth is you can't just plan some random foaming idea on the map. You must use common sense, and ridership to justify things. The only place that I see that would really need help is the Fourth Avenue Line which was severely affected by the loss of the (Mx). It seems like reincarnating the is the best idea here due to the fact that it would serve Brooklyn, Lower Manhattan, Midtown Manhattan, and Queens. The (Mx) only served Brooklyn, Queens, and Lower Manhattan. By not going to Midtown it wasn't really useful, or crowded during rush hours. So by seeing that, any service like the <R>, or the (Mx) won't be really useful. So the most viable idea is to have a reincarnated . As it would have higher ridership, and higher benefits that justifies the cost of running it. Although a Nassau Street service would be cool to look at, and nostalgia is for concern it doesn't really help, and won't really do much. Also a reincarnated would allow the to be the Broadway Express again which is needed due to the fact the needs something to back it up. The reincarnated as I have had mentioned should be a weekdays only service. It won't run at all during late nights, or weekends. It would run from Astoria Ditmars Boulevard to either 9th Avenue (Lower Level), or Bay Parkway. If it is justifiable then the would run, and terminate at Bay Parkway, but if it isn't it would terminate at the Lower Level of the Ninth Avenue station, but again the fact the (Mx) wasn't that crowded was due to the fact that it didn't run to Midtown which most people seemed to be going. I am a little certain that the might have a higher ridership then the (Mx), and could run to Bay Parkway for a few months as a test. If the test doesn't really see a high ridership then it would be only Fourth Avenue that needs the service, and the would terminate at the Lower Level of the Ninth Avenue station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 10, 2011 Share #132 Posted April 10, 2011 You just love pitching that idea dontcha And for the last time, 9 Av LL is for work and refuse trains...the UL is fine enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted April 10, 2011 Share #133 Posted April 10, 2011 If I remember correctly only the middle track on the lower level is being used for refuse, and trash. I am most certain that the , or whatever service it is would be capable of using the 2 side tracks as a terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallParkShuttle Posted April 10, 2011 Share #134 Posted April 10, 2011 Right After 9/11 is when service was crazy! Let's not make it crazy again with and trains coming to the west end.. That's a long ass route for no reason. What if they had some Coney Island Layups from the run west end express.. Think About it for a minute most of the crowd get's on at Bay Parkway.. 62nd street is eh.. because of the . But West End Express would help out just a little Service was crazy because of 9/11... The only reason the was sent to South Brooklyn was because the ( and were incapable of doing so because of the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction project. The was suspended for two months. Don't forget that Lower Broadway was closed due to the tunnel damage and the fear that the vibrations from the trains could cause more damage in the already unstable debris pile. I remember reading a report that mentioned a large construction vehicle being used for the clearing of the pile falling through several stories of debris early in the debris removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 10, 2011 Share #135 Posted April 10, 2011 Crazy didn't even begin to describe it: R32s on the , R68s on the , slants on the (Mx), R46s on the , etc. I wished I had a digital cam at that time, now that was a variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallParkShuttle Posted April 10, 2011 Share #136 Posted April 10, 2011 Crazy didn't even begin to describe it: R32s on the , R68s on the , slants on the (Mx), R46s on the , etc.I wished I had a digital cam at that time, now that was a variety. Don't forget R46s on the , (E)'s to Euclid, (1)'s to New Lots, and I remember around the time of the tragic plane crash in the Rockaways that November, there were ©'s running out to Far Rockaway a couple of days. I don't think the to Bay Parkway is a bad idea. They can run a couple of trains from Jamaica Center to Bay Parkway in the PM rush, lay them up at CIYD over night and run them back up to the Nassau line in the next AM rush. I really don't see how they would tie up skip-stop, since it's in one direction (opposite skip-stop), and the trains can be scheduled so that they tie into the Jamaica line as needed, since the Jamaica line really doesn't tie into any other line. I used to work at Broadway and Wall and the (Mx) was perfect (and I wasn't the only one on the train). I can see that service being useful for at least the skip-stop hours of the rush. As for R-32s on that assignment, a man can speculate...and dream . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 10, 2011 Share #137 Posted April 10, 2011 R46s must've been within the days after the attack [i remember that one photo on NYCsubway], but after that it was only R32s till the (N)/® returned. Wow, I never knew they ran the ©s out there [after that crash]. Must've been short since I haven't seen many pics or reports of that happening. Unless the are beyond capacity and people were forced to take another line, there's no way I see them thinking of having the run to 9th Av or Bay Pkwy. Because the practically mirrors the (Mx) from Atlantic to Chambers. And I think such a train should start from broadway Junction and be a '(Z)'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted April 11, 2011 Share #138 Posted April 11, 2011 Well heres news (if this wasnt said already): +R32's are NOT going to the May 1st +the R44's will go back in service during the summer due to the R32's AC crapping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob60 Posted April 11, 2011 Share #139 Posted April 11, 2011 Any idea how soon R44's will run on the C. From May 01? I guess up to 8 trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted April 11, 2011 Share #140 Posted April 11, 2011 +the R44's will go back in service during the summer due to the R32's AC crapping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 11, 2011 Share #141 Posted April 11, 2011 lmao! Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted April 11, 2011 Share #142 Posted April 11, 2011 Well heres news (if this wasnt said already):+the R44's will go back in service during the summer due to the R32's AC crapping out. Heres what I got too say.If the R-46's go to the and the 32 to the for Lefferts Service.Chances are the 44's won't come back b\c they wouldn't be needed like last year.Last year there were 32 cars=4 sets and they bought cars BACK for increased service so there were about 6 sets out.This year idk whats gonna happen but if the 46's go to the chances are the 44's won't run.But anything can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted April 11, 2011 Share #143 Posted April 11, 2011 I agree with bringing back the .Make it run from Whitehall to Bay Parkway and rush hrs add 2-4 train sets so they can run to 57th and terminate there for rush hrs. Cant bring back the with the current service pattern (with three services in the 60th tube). The would have to go back to 57 while the is running, and also the middle tracks between 42 and 57 are used for layups now that G3/G4 are OoS for SAS construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted April 11, 2011 Share #144 Posted April 11, 2011 Um yeah it's after the Second Avenue Subway first phase opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted April 11, 2011 Share #145 Posted April 11, 2011 Cant bring back the with the current service pattern (with three services in the 60th tube). The would have to go back to 57 while the is running, and also the middle tracks between 42 and 57 are used for layups now that G3/G4 are OoS for SAS construction. Ok,this probably won't happen.Use the Yellow D from Whitehall to Bay Pkwy via 4th Av LCL and West End Exp.Either letter or what ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted April 11, 2011 Share #146 Posted April 11, 2011 That is the most useless thing you have posted, but I am not being mean or anything since you could have had looked up a post, and saw my explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted April 11, 2011 Share #147 Posted April 11, 2011 Cant bring back the with the current service pattern (with three services in the 60th tube). The would have to go back to 57 while the is running, and also the middle tracks between 42 and 57 are used for layups now that G3/G4 are OoS for SAS construction. Uhm, I dunno what you're talking about, but the idea of the a lot of us have is to bring it back AFTER SAS opens. So those middle tracks don't matter, since they're BIS after SAS is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted April 11, 2011 Share #148 Posted April 11, 2011 Please do all of us (and yourself) a favor and read the post he was responding to. His response to 2 Train Master was that the can't return right now because the can't terminate at 57 St-7 Av due to ongoing construction work on the 63rd Street line just north of the station, due to the Second Avenue-to-63rd Street connection. Plus, there's no money for it. Of course, it will have to return in 2016 (or whenever the "line"'s completed) because Astoria needs more than one subway line over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted April 11, 2011 Share #149 Posted April 11, 2011 That is the most useless thing you have posted In reply to the topic, I didn't even know those tracks north of 57th Street was OOS, crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted April 12, 2011 Share #150 Posted April 12, 2011 Well heres news (if this wasnt said already): +R32's are NOT going to the May 1st +the R44's will go back in service during the summer due to the R32's AC crapping out. NO R44's Will Return In SERVICE,MTA MADE THAT CLEAR REASON: R32's Are Getting Their A/C's Fixed - Overhauled at 207th st shop, That's why 3/4 of the fleet is OOS, 207th has been working around the clock fixing the A/C units on their R32's as for the getting R32's Lets wait until May 1st, I bet you it will stay the same as it is Now Those 64 R44's will get scrapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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