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MNRR/LIRR Short & Long Term Plans and Proposals-now & 2050

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Most of the express runs make the stops north of Stamford while the locals end at Stamford. And those new stops will only add a couple of minutes. The new stops are a response to the increase in ridership over the last few years.

And if you think bout it, when ridership in an area increases, theres really no such thing as "too close together" as long as the two stations arent a train length apart. Otherwise, the Far Rockaway line stations would be considered too close together. 

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So the fact that the express now stops at stations north of Stamford is a guarantee that it will still be the same when these new stations open? If so, please show me your magic ball because I want to predict the future too!

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Most of the express runs make the stops north of Stamford while the locals end at Stamford. And those new stops will only add a couple of minutes. The new stops are a response to the increase in ridership over the last few years.

And if you think bout it, when ridership in an area increases, theres really no such thing as "too close together" as long as the two stations arent a train length apart. Otherwise, the Far Rockaway line stations would be considered too close together. 

That's not a fair comparsion. Far rockaway is nowhere near the trip length of New haven. The entire far rockaway branch distance on the New Haven doesn't even leave new york.

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So the fact that the express now stops at stations north of Stamford is a guarantee that it will still be the same when these new stations open? If so, please show me your magic ball because I want to predict the future too!
most off peak trains stamford express make all stops north of stamford.

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Hmmm...   I never did Station - Station of each MNRR line....very strange...

 

West of the Hudson 

 

Port Jervis line 

Hoboken Terminal

Secaucus JCT Lower Level 

Paterson

Ridgewood

Suffern

Hillburn 

Sloatsburg 

Tuxedo

Harriman

Salisbury-Cornwall

Cambell Hall

Middletown

Otisville

Port Jervis

 

West Shore Line

Hoboken Terminal 

Secaucus Road-Jersey City

North Bergen Transit Center

Vince Lombradi Park & Ride

Ridgefield Park

Cedar Lane - Teaneck

West Englewood

Bergenfield 

Haworth

Harrington Park 

Tappan

Blauvelt

Valley Cottage

Congers

Haverstraw

Stony Point 

Bear Mountain

Highland Falls

Cornwall on Hudson

Newburgh

 

Pascack Valley line 

Hoboken Terminal

Secaucus JCT-Lower Level

Wood-Ridge

Teterboro

Essex Street - Hackensack

Anderson Street - Hackensack

New Bridge Landing

River Edge

Oradell

Emerson

Westwood

Hillsdale

Woodcliff Lake

Park Ridge

Montvale

Pearl River

Nanuet

Spring Valley

Monsey

Airmont

East Suffern

Hillburn

 

Main line

Hoboken Terminal

Secaucus JCT - Lower Level

Kingsland

Lyndhurst 

Delawanna

Passaic

Clifton

Paterson

Hawthorne

Glen Rock

Ridgewood

Ho-Ho-Kus

Waldwick

Allendale

Ramsey - Main Street

Ramsey - Route 17

Mahwah

Suffern 

 

Bergen County line

Hoboken Terminal

Secaucus JCT - Lower Level

Rutherford

Westmont

Garfield

Plauderville

Saddle Brook JCT

Broadway-Fair Lawn

Radburn-Fair Lawn

Glen Rock-Boro Hall

Ridgewood

Ho-Ho-Kus

Waldwick

Allendale

Ramsey-Main Street

Ramsey-Route 17

Mahwah

Suffern

 

 

Kingsland Branch

Hoboken Terminal

Harrison East 

Kearny

Kingsland

Lyndhurst

Delawanna

Passaic

Clifton

Paterson

Hawthorne 

Glen Rock

Ridgewood

Ho-Ho-Kus

Waldwick

Allendale

Ramsey-Main Street

Ramsey-Route 17

Mahwah

Suffern

 

Northwest Rail Link

Hoboken Terminal

Secaucus JCT-Lower Level

Kingsland

Lyndhurst

Delawanna 

Passaic

Clifton

Paterson

Hawthrone

Midland Park

Wyckoff 

Franklin Lakes

Oakland

Pompton Lakes

I-287 Park & Ride

Butler

Ogdenburg 

Sparta

Franklin

Hamburg

Warwick

Chester

Campbell Hall

Middletown

Otisville

Port Jervis

 

 

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East of the Hudson

 

New Haven Line

Grand Central Terminal

Harlem-125th Street

Yankees-East 153rd Street (Game Days only)

Fordham

Mount Vernon East

Pelham

New Rochelle

Larchmont 

Mamaroneck

Harrison 

Rye

Port Chester

Greenwich

Cos-Cob

Riverside 

Old Greenwich 

Stamford

East Stamford

Norton Heights 

Darien

Rowayton 

South Norwalk

East Norwalk

Westport

Green Farms

Southport

Fairfield 

Fairfield Metro

Bridgeport

East Bridgeport

Stratford

Milford

Orange

West Haven

New Haven Union Station

New Haven State Street

 

Hell Gate line

New York Penn Station

Sunnyside JCT

Astoria

Hunt's Point

Parkchester

Morris Park

Co-Op City 

City Island-Orchard Beach

South Rochelle

New Rochelle

Larchmont 

Mamaroneck

Harrison 

Rye

Port Chester

Greenwich

Cos-Cob

Riverside 

Old Greenwich 

Stamford

East Stamford

Norton Heights 

Darien

Rowayton 

South Norwalk

East Norwalk

Westport

Green Farms

Southport

Fairfield 

Fairfield Metro

Bridgeport

East Bridgeport

Stratford

Milford

Orange

West Haven

New Haven Union Station

New Haven State Street

 

 

Danbury Branch

New Milford

Brookfield

North Danbury

Danbury

Bethel

Redding

Branchville

Georgetown

Cannondale

Wilton

Merritt 7 

Wall Street

South Norwalk

Stamford (Limited)

Grand Central (Limited)

 

 

New Canaan Branch 

New Canaan 

Talmadge Hill

Springdale

Glenbrook

East Stamford

Stamford 

Grand Central Terminal (Limited)

 

 

Waterbury Branch

Torrington North

Torrington

Thomaston

Waterbury 

Naugatuck (Moved to Maple Street)

Beacon Falls

Seymour 

Ansonia 

Derby (Close it)

Great River

Milford West 

Devon  (Most Services Terminate here)

Bridgeport (Limited)

Stamford (Limited)

 

Harlem Line

Grand Central Terminal

Harlem-125th Street

Melrose

Tremont

Fordham

Botanical Garden

Williams Bridge

Woodlawn

Wakefield

Mount Vernon West 

Fleetwood

Bronxville

Tuckahoe 

Crestwood

Scarsdale

Hartsdale

White Plains

North White Plains

Valhalla

Mount Pleasant

Hawthrone

Pleasentville

Chappaqua

Mount Kisco

Bedford Hills

Katonah

Golden's Bridge

Purdy's

Croton Falls

Brewster

Southeast

Patterson

Pawling

Appalachian Trail

Harlem Valley - Wingdale

Dover Plains

Tenmile River

Wassaic

 

Hudson Line

Grand Central Terminal

Harlem-125th Street

Yankees-East 153rd Street

Morris Heights

University Heights

Marble Hill

Spuyten Duyvil

Riverdale

Ludlow

Yonkers

Glenwood

Greystone

Hastings-On-Hudson

Dobbs Ferry

Ardsley-On-Hudson

Irvington 

Tarrytown

Philpse Manor

Scarborough

Ossining 

Croton-Harmon

Corrtlandt

Peekskill

Manitou

Garrison

Cold Spring

Breakneck Ridge

Beacon

New Hamburg

Poughkeepsie

 

West Side Line

New York Penn Station

West 62nd Street

West 125th Street

Dyckman Street

Riverdale

Ludlow

Yonkers

Glenwood

Greystone

Hastings-On-Hudson

Dobbs Ferry

Ardsley-On-Hudson

Irvington 

Tarrytown

Philpse Manor

Scarborough

Ossining 

Croton-Harmon

 

I-287 Railway Corridor 

Hillburn 

East Suffern

Airmont

Nanuet 

West Nyack

South Nyack

Tarrytown East (Underground)

Elmsford (Underground)

White Plains Transit (Underground)

East White Plains (Underground)

Purchase (Underground)

Port Chester

Greenwich

Cos-Cob

Riverside 

Old Greenwich 

Stamford

East Stamford

Norton Heights 

Darien

Rowayton 

South Norwalk

East Norwalk

Westport

Green Farms

Southport

Fairfield 

Fairfield Metro

Bridgeport

East Bridgeport

Stratford

Milford

Orange

West Haven

New Haven Union Station

New Haven State Street

 

 

I-287 Railway Corridor - GCT

 

Hillburn 

East Suffern

Airmont

Nanuet 

West Nyack

South Nyack

Tarrytown East (Underground)

Irvington

Ardsley-On-Hudson

Dobbs Ferry

Hastings-On-Hudson

Greystone

Glenwood

Yonkers

Riverdale

Marble Hill

Yankees-153rd Street

Harlem-125th Street

Grand Central Terminal

 

 

Northern Line

Beacon

Beacon Towne Center

Fishkill

Brinckerhoff 

Hopewell JCT

(Connections to Harlem line for White Plains./ Grand Central)

Brewster Hill

Mill Plain

Danbury

North Danbury

Newtown

Stevenson

Shelton

Great River

Milford West 

Devon  (Most Services Terminate here)

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Central Connecticut 

 

Knowledge Corridor - Local

Brattleboro

Greenfield

Deerfield

South Deerfield

Northampton

Holyoke

Willimansett

Chicopee

Springfield Riverfront

Longmeadow

Thompsonville

Enfield

Windsor Locks

Windsor

North End

Hartford Union

Parkville

West Hartford

Newington

Berlin

Meriden

Wallingford

North Haven

Fair Haven

New Haven-State Street

New Haven-Union

 

Knowledge Corridor - Express

 

Brattleboro

Greenfield

Northampton

Holyoke

Springfield Riverfront

Windsor Locks

Hartford Union

Berlin

Meriden

New Haven-State Street

New Haven-Union

 

 

Middletown Branch

Middletown

Middlefield

Northford

Fair Haven

New Haven-State Street

New Haven-Union

 

Bristol-Manchester RER

Waterbury

Pequabuck

Bristol

Forestville

Plainville

New Britian 

Parkville

Hartford Union

East Hartford

I-84 Park & Ride

Manchester

 

 

Shore Line East

New London

Waterford

Niantic

Old Lyme 

Old Saybrook

Westbrook

Clinton

Madison

Guilford 

Branford

East Haven

Fair Haven

New Haven-State Street

New Haven-Union 

West Haven (limited)

Bridgeport (Limited)

South Norwalk (Limited)

Stamford (Limited)

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Various Light Rail systems that tie into the Northern-NJT/MNRR Network

 

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=215312482559953359515.000496b73cabd9916320d&msa=0&ll=41.512691,-73.122253&spn=1.38822,3.348083

 

Hudson Bergen Light Rail

Nyack

South Nyack

Piermont

Sparkill

Northvale

Norwood

Closter

Demarest 

Creeskill

Tenafly North

Tenafly Town Center

Englewood Hospital

Englewood Town Center

Englewood Route 4

Leonia

Palisades Park

Ridgefield 

91st Street

Tonnelle Ave

Bergenline Ave

Port Imperial

Lincoln Harbor

North Hoboken

9th/Congress

2nd Street

Grove & 18th Street

Hoboken Terminal

Pavonia-Newport

Harsimus Cove 

Harborside Financial Center

Exchange Place

Essex Street

Marin Boulevard

Jersey Ave

Liberty State Park

Branch > Garfield Ave , Martin Lurther King Boulevard , West Side Ave , Bayfront (Elevated)

Canal Crossing

Richard Street

Danforth Ave 

45th Street

34th Street

22nd Street

8th Street

 

Hudson-Bergen-Passaic- Light Rail

Hawthorne Transit Center

6th Avenue 

Lafayette Street

Madison Avenue

20th Avenue

Vreeland Avenue

Elmwood Park

Saddle Brook JCT

Rochelle Park

Maywood

American Legion Drive

State Street 

Bogota

Ridgefield Park

Vince Lombardi Park & Ride

Tonnelle Ave

Bergenline Ave

Port Imperial

Lincoln Harbor

North Hoboken

9th/Congress

2nd Street

Grove & 18th Street

Hoboken Terminal

 

Westchester County Light Rail

 

Cross Westchester Light Rail - Port Chester - Tarrytown

Port Chester
Five Points (Eastbound)
Port Chester Train Station (Eastbound)- Connections to New Haven line , Hell Gate line and I-287 Rail Service
Irving Ave (Eastbound)
-Rejoins at Westchester Ave , Continues West
Regent Street
Ridge Street
-Enters Tunnel
Interstate Office Park - Harrison (Underground)
-Exits Tunnel , City of White Plains
Bloomingdale Road
-Westbound&Eastbound Services split 
Main Street East (Westbound) 
Church Street (Westbound) / Mamaroneck Ave (Eastbound)
Longview Ave (Both)
White Plains Transportation Center 
-Continues on 119 West 
Central Ave - Westchester County Center 
Dobbs Ferry Road 
Route 100A
Elmsford
Tarrytown Office Hub
Sleepy Hallow Road
Broadway - Tarrytown South
-Enters Tunnel
Tarrytown Train Station

 

Central LRT - White Plains to Yonkers 
Whites Plains Transportation Center
Central Ave - Westchester County Center 
-Turns onto Central Ave heads South , trains have reserved Median ROW
Independence Street
-Enters the town of Hartsdale
Chatterton Parkway
Hartsdale Ave
-Enters the town of Greenville 
South Healy Ave
Old Army Road
Ardsley Road
Clifton Road
-Enters The City of Yonkers
Forthill Road
Cristfield Street
Alta Vista Dr
Underhill Street
Tuckahoe Road
Palmer Road 
-Enters Tunnel
Dunwoodle (Underground)
Walnut Street (Underground)
Yonkers City Hall (Underground)
Downtown Yonkers (Underground)
-Emerges from Tunnel
Yonkers Train Station

 

Mamaroneck Ave LRT - White Plains - Mamaroneck

White Plains Transportation Center
Longview Ave
-Turns onto Mamaroneck ave heads south , street running 
Martine Ave 
Maple Ave
Livingston Ave
-Begins Median ROW running at Bloomingdale Road
Bryant Ave
Ridgeway
Hunting Ridge Road
Rosedale Ave
Purdy Ave
Raleigh Road 
Soundview Ave 
-Ends Median running , begins Street running
Nostrand Ave
Mamaroneck Train Station
-Southbound breaks off 
Palmer Ave 
Boston Post road
-loops around

 

Airport Link - White Plains to Westchester County Airport

White Plains Transportation Center
Longview Ave
Mamaroneck Ave 
-Lake Street , street running begins , continues East
South Kensico ave
Silver Lake
Jefferson Street
-Enters Tunnel
SUNY Purchase College (underground)
Westchester County Airport (Underground)

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^^ Way too ambitious.

Not really , its densely populated....    What is it with Bus Advocates smacking down Rail Proposals....

 

I don't think he realizes how empty those areas are. Overkill much.

There not empty , look at the Google Satilites......   

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Not really , its densely populated....    What is it with Bus Advocates smacking down Rail Proposals....

 

 

There not empty , look at the Google Satilites......   

I am not exactly a bus advocate I am a bit of a mix. I've been to westchester airport that area is dead after a certain time. However Such a rail line can kill off the merrit parkway's significance. Not all so called bus advocates smack down rail proposals. Actually I have a preference for rail. But am not exactly a master of it. I do think SEPTA would get more riders if their peak express trains through routed express in the reverse directions to reach business parks such a move would drastically increase NJT philly bound lines rail and bus(philly bound). MNRR well transforming the branch lines into LRT or splitting em may increase service. If they don't find a way to improve the waterbury line then they are better off running buses. But the branch lines other than new cannan get ignored it's sad.

 

Not all bus advocates smack down rail proposals without reason. Some advocate for rail as well.

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I am not exactly a bus advocate I am a bit of a mix. I've been to westchester airport that area is dead after a certain time. However Such a rail line can kill off the merrit parkway's significance. Not all so called bus advocates smack down rail proposals. Actually I have a preference for rail. But am not exactly a master of it. I do think SEPTA would get more riders if their peak express trains through routed express in the reverse directions to reach business parks such a move would drastically increase NJT philly bound lines rail and bus(philly bound). MNRR well transforming the branch lines into LRT or splitting em may increase service. If they don't find a way to improve the waterbury line then they are better off running buses. But the branch lines other than new cannan get ignored it's sad.

 

Not all bus advocates smack down rail proposals without reason. Some advocate for rail as well.

I honestly think your an idiot , what does the Parkway system have to do with the proposed LRT?     That doesn't even make sense ....   Buses are banned from the Parkway system which is overcapacity anyway....something everyone knows.       Doesn't appear you have a preference for Rail , always bus this and bus that...     The MNRR doesn't need to transform the Branch services into LRT they just need to upgraded , transforming them into LRT would be a waste and time consuming journey.     

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I honestly think your an idiot , what does the Parkway system have to do with the proposed LRT?     That doesn't even make sense ....   Buses are banned from the Parkway system which is overcapacity anyway....something everyone knows.       Doesn't appear you have a preference for Rail , always bus this and bus that...     The MNRR doesn't need to transform the Branch services into LRT they just need to upgraded , transforming them into LRT would be a waste and time consuming journey.     

really Isn't that what folks here think you are? I meant the LRT will take cars off the roads as they won't need to use the parkways as much. I have preference for the fastest mode bus or rail. Keep the insults to a minimum boy.

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LMAO. Qj calls Nexis a 'boy' even though they're about the same age. A bit of respect, Qj.

 

Yes, LRT would be really nice and would get people out of their car. But it's too expensive. (MTA) is already in a hard financial situation that got even worse after Sandy so LRT is not an option right now. Maybe in 30 years when they have more money but not right now.

 

 
 
 
 
 

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LMAO. Qj calls Nexis a 'boy' even though they're about the same age. A bit of respect, Qj.

 

Yes, LRT would be really nice and would get people out of their car. But it's too expensive. (MTA) is already in a hard financial situation that got even worse after Sandy so LRT is not an option right now. Maybe in 30 years when they have more money but not right now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in 30 years the population would have urbanized that area forcing LRT to work where it doesn't now.

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Why can't there be a set of Metro North cars that have the color green?

I guess it would not make sense to give us some Metro North Cars that can be colored green. To me its like..less confusion. I mean, look at the subway map. The Connecticut lines are red, as well as some m1/m2/m3/m4/m8 cars.

The Harlem Line is blue, as are some of their rail cars. Why can't there be green ones? Lol :/

 

Why can't there be a set of Metro North cars that have the color green?I guess it would not make sense to give us some Metro North Cars that can be colored green. To me its like..less confusion. I mean, look at the subway map. The Connecticut lines are red, as well as some m1/m2/m3/m4/m8 cars.The Harlem Line is blue, as are some of their rail cars. Why can't there be green ones? Lol :/

I meant green cars can go on the Hudson Line..

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Why can't there be a set of Metro North cars that have the color green?

I guess it would not make sense to give us some Metro North Cars that can be colored green. To me its like..less confusion. I mean, look at the subway map. The Connecticut lines are red, as well as some m1/m2/m3/m4/m8 cars.

The Harlem Line is blue, as are some of their rail cars. Why can't there be green ones? Lol :/

 

 

I meant green cars can go on the Hudson Line..

 

The IRT is already red-green. Life is hard for us colorblind people already :(

If you want a new fleet of trains make them yellow or something. Just not green.

 

 

really Isn't that what folks here think you are? I meant the LRT will take cars off the roads as they won't need to use the parkways as much. I have preference for the fastest mode bus or rail. Keep the insults to a minimum boy.

 

The day LRT gets to Long Island before we have rail service in the outer boroughs is the day the MTA's leadership is all sacked at once for acting so stupidly.

 

Also, no one cares if the thing goes fast if it only shows up once every half hour or so. This is why you fail to understand why LIRR ridership isn't that high where bus+subway is available.

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The IRT is already red-green. Life is hard for us colorblind people already :(

If you want a new fleet of trains make them yellow or something. Just not green.

 

 

 

The day LRT gets to Long Island before we have rail service in the outer boroughs is the day the MTA's leadership is all sacked at once for acting so stupidly.

 

Also, no one cares if the thing goes fast if it only shows up once every half hour or so. This is why you fail to understand why LIRR ridership isn't that high where bus+subway is available.

I am talking about LIRR deep in suffolk dude.

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I am talking about LIRR deep in suffolk dude.

Suffolk is getting DMU trains for the Montuak and Greenport Branches , Service will be Bi-directional every hour.    Light Rail badly needed in Nassau , Queens and Brooklyn but Suffolk doesn't need it.

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Yes, but that's not the issue here....

 

You're confusing a type of equipment (diesel multiple units) with a type of rail transit (light rail transit)

If you're going to talk about something at least know what you're talking about...

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Yes, but that's not the issue here....

 

You're confusing a type of equipment (diesel multiple units) with a type of rail transit (light rail transit)

 

If you're going to talk about something at least know what you're talking about...

sorry man.

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