trainfan22 Posted August 9, 2008 Share #26 Posted August 9, 2008 the SIR is a POS and a waste you only pay at St. George board at any other station you ride free no turnstyles i guess thats why they think they should ride the bus for free out there talk about the MTA losing MONEYLol most people get off the stop before st george to avoid paying the fare. I like the SIR. I caught it for the first time this summer! They need to put a set of R160's on the line!! No they don't!! Their 44's are awsome and don't need to be replaced! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted August 9, 2008 Share #27 Posted August 9, 2008 Lol most people get off the stop before st george to avoid paying the fare.I'm guilty of doing that once! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 9, 2008 Share #28 Posted August 9, 2008 According to several sites (i believe including forgotten-ny.com) they are in the process of installing fare control, and updating existing implementations along the entire route. I believe this means smart link card upgrades are going to be seen soon as well. It'd be nice to hear from someone with info on this project have their input here to see what exactly is going on. - Andy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 9, 2008 Share #29 Posted August 9, 2008 I'm guilty of doing that once!LOL So SIR is only R44? Hmm in that case, I won't be riding it anytime soon... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 9, 2008 Share #30 Posted August 9, 2008 No they don't!! Their 44's are awsome and don't need to be replaced! Lol... just 1 set! LOL So SIR is only R44? Hmm in that case, I won't be riding it anytime soon... :eek:Those 44's are nice!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 9, 2008 Share #31 Posted August 9, 2008 LOL So SIR is only R44? Hmm in that case, I won't be riding it anytime soon... SIR R44's are diffent than the ones on the line. SIR 44's go much faster and have a diffent braking system which doens't make that weird hissing noise that NYCT 44's make. SIR 44's are awsome, you should ride them they're really cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGSJenkins Posted August 10, 2008 Share #32 Posted August 10, 2008 I rode it from St. George to Eltingville twice and from St. George to Tottenville this year. I used the unlimited MetroCard to ride from the Bronx to there and back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostface Brown Posted August 11, 2008 Share #33 Posted August 11, 2008 SIR's fleet sucks, give it real Railroad cars. To add on to that, I remember being scared when I saw a strange looking lady walked into the front cab with a limp about to operate the train, but then I saw that the driver on another train arriving didn't have a uniform on, and realized that SIRT engineers don't seem to wear any uniforms for some reason... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 11, 2008 Share #34 Posted August 11, 2008 To add on to that, I remember being scared when I saw a strange looking lady walked into the front cab with a limp about to operate the train, but then I saw that the driver on another train arriving didn't have a uniform on, and realized that SIRT engineers don't seem to wear any uniforms for some reason... I rarely see railroad (yes its a railroad) drivers/engineers wearing any type of official clothing. They are usually dressed very casually with a "i work for ___ and drive trains" ID usually around their neck or pinned to shirt. PATH drivers can be a craps shoot of how they are dressed, but they usually have some kind of "nice" clothes on and a driver's cap, but they do it because the PATH system has different security rules for employees. - Andy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostface Brown Posted August 11, 2008 Share #35 Posted August 11, 2008 Thanks. SIR is the weirdest transit system I've ever seen, although I still refuse to call it a railroad with the "trolleys" running on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 11, 2008 Share #36 Posted August 11, 2008 Thanks. SIR is the weirdest transit system I've ever seen, although I still refuse to call it a railroad with the "trolleys" running on it. Whats so wierd?? Its the same as any other IND/BMT line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 11, 2008 Share #37 Posted August 11, 2008 although I still refuse to call it a railroad with the "trolleys" running on it. I feel the same way about path, its a subway not a railroad. Esp with those toy subway cars its fleet uses. SIR feels like a subway too, not a railroad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostface Brown Posted August 12, 2008 Share #38 Posted August 12, 2008 Whats so wierd?? Its the same as any other IND/BMT line. I just don't really understand why it uses old subway cars if it's supposed a "railroad". I feel the same way about path, its a subway not a railroad. Esp with those toy subway cars its fleet uses. SIR feels like a subway too, not a railroad. I also consider the PATH system to be a subway, I don't think that anybody really calls it a railroad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 12, 2008 Share #39 Posted August 12, 2008 I just don't really understand why it uses old subway cars if it's supposed a "railroad". I also consider the PATH system to be a subway, I don't think that anybody really calls it a railroad. That's because it's The Staten Island Railway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostface Brown Posted August 12, 2008 Share #40 Posted August 12, 2008 Well, I wasn't really aware of any difference between the two terms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 12, 2008 Share #41 Posted August 12, 2008 I wasn't aware of any difference between the two terms. Railroads don't have third rails. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostface Brown Posted August 12, 2008 Share #42 Posted August 12, 2008 ^Alright thanks a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 12, 2008 Share #43 Posted August 12, 2008 ^Alright thanks a lot. No problem man! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted August 12, 2008 Share #44 Posted August 12, 2008 Railroads don't have third rails. Well, don't forget about Metro-North and Long Island RailRoad..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 12, 2008 Share #45 Posted August 12, 2008 Well, don't forget about Metro-North and Long Island RailRoad..... They have 3rd rails too??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted August 12, 2008 Share #46 Posted August 12, 2008 Well, don't forget about Metro-North and Long Island RailRoad..... They have 3rd rails too??? Well, they're commuter railroads, but they still have the word "railroad" in their names... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted August 12, 2008 Share #47 Posted August 12, 2008 They have 3rd rails too??? Long Island Rail Road and Metro-North Rail Road do have 3rd rails only up to a certain part on a particular branch and/or line. Long Island Rail Road 3rd rail is like ours (New York City Subway) it have an overshoe while Metro-North Rail Road have an undershoe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted August 12, 2008 Share #48 Posted August 12, 2008 SIR44s need to have their interiors fixed over X_X;; Scratches and other gruesome stuff on their seats and very dirty windows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 12, 2008 Share #49 Posted August 12, 2008 Railroad law can be found at the FRA website, but i can say now 3rd rail etc doesn't matter, a railroad ROW in my opinion is able to carry freight and passengers. LIRR sees freight overnight, MNRR sees freight all the time, and SIR USED to be a heavily utilized freight line. PATH's ROW also sees freight usage, but it is all most isolated from the national rail network, so it is somewhat at risk of losing heavy rail status under the FRA rules. I personally don't think they will bother changing the rules for SIR or PATH because the system could be used for freight in the future. - Andy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 13, 2008 Share #50 Posted August 13, 2008 Railroad law can be found at the FRA website, but i can say now 3rd rail etc doesn't matter, a railroad ROW in my opinion is able to carry freight and passengers. LIRR sees freight overnight, MNRR sees freight all the time, and SIR USED to be a heavily utilized freight line. PATH's ROW also sees freight usage, but it is all most isolated from the national rail network, so it is somewhat at risk of losing heavy rail status under the FRA rules. I personally don't think they will bother changing the rules for SIR or PATH because the system could be used for freight in the future. - Andy The reason path has an FRA rules applied to them is because of an connection to the NEC at harrsion yard. Those NS freight trains run on the same ROW as path but not on the same tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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