RailRunRob Posted July 24, 2017 Share #276 Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Seems there was some truth to Subway car testing in Pueblo. Wonder what for? Edited July 24, 2017 by RailRunRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RES2773 Posted July 24, 2017 Share #277 Posted July 24, 2017 Seems there was some truth to Subway car testing in Pueblo. Wonder what for? Wow, nice find! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted July 24, 2017 Share #278 Posted July 24, 2017 I am pretty sure the M8 arrangement was special -- all other locomotives/EMUs that I can think of were Puebloed. Silverliner Vs, M9s, M7s, ALP-45/46s... I already know you are incorrect because the M9's have never even been on American Soil, and the M7's did not need to be tested in Pueblo because Bombardier had their own test track. Reading what Wikipedia says does not mean it is correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted July 24, 2017 Share #279 Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) I already know you are incorrect because the M9's have never even been on American Soil, and the M7's did not need to be tested in Pueblo because Bombardier had their own test track. Reading what Wikipedia says does not mean it is correct. So what are the parameters for testing with the TTC (FRA)? Maybe for new tech? or simulations? M8 would have to have some type of standard to run on the NEC right? Maybe they didn't test because the standard , spec or code is already set they'd just be required to make sure that standard was reached . But they do test more than just intercity trains here's some LRT cars testing out there recently. The question here is what warrants testing? The M9 has PTC maybe that qualifies them for testing (Shrugs) kinda why I asked. Edited July 24, 2017 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted July 24, 2017 Share #280 Posted July 24, 2017 I know . I know!! I have a lot of time on my hands this evening I should be working . Seems the M9's are slated to test out west Per the MTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted July 25, 2017 Share #281 Posted July 25, 2017 I know . I know!! I have a lot of time on my hands this evening I should be working . Seems the M9's are slated to test out west Per the MTA. So that sums it up then, this is the first official source I've seen. However the M8's were not tested in Pueblo so I assume there was some reason for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted July 25, 2017 Share #282 Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) So that sums it up then, this is the first official source I've seen. However the M8's were not tested in Pueblo so I assume there was some reason for that. Yeah I’m not entirely sure what the criteria is for testing. I’d put my money A new system or tech like PTC needing to be tested. After all the M9’s are the 1st have it installed for the LIRR everything else will need to be retrofitted. So makes sense to test and certify with them? Shrugs The M8s didn’t really have anything new FTA or jurisdiction wise at least. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Edited July 25, 2017 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted July 25, 2017 Share #283 Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) I already know you are incorrect because the M9's have never even been on American Soil, and the M7's did not need to be tested in Pueblo because Bombardier had their own test track. Reading what Wikipedia says does not mean it is correct. Are you sure about the M7s? I have it from multiple v reliable sources that BBD shipped cars from quebec/plattsburgh to pueblo for testing... (I'm not dumb enough to read wiki as if it's fact don't worry) Edited July 25, 2017 by RR503 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted July 25, 2017 Share #284 Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) Are you sure about the M7s? I have it from multiple v reliable sources that BBD shipped cars from quebec/plattsburgh to pueblo for testing... (I'm not dumb enough to read wiki as if it's fact don't worry) Yep, I believe you're correct seem's there were in Pueblo 2001-2002 for test's and testing. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2007-08-01/html/07-3736.htm https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-01-08/html/E9-31411.htm Edited July 25, 2017 by RailRunRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted July 25, 2017 Share #285 Posted July 25, 2017 Yep, I believe you're correct seem's there were in Pueblo 2001-2002 for test's and testing. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2007-08-01/html/07-3736.htm https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-01-08/html/E9-31411.htm The M8's have a similar frame to the M7's, so that must have been the reason for no test out west. The M9's have a new frame however which is what was delaying them in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RES2773 Posted July 25, 2017 Share #286 Posted July 25, 2017 I am very confused about this entire thing, does anyone actually know when the first cars will arrive in Long island? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted July 25, 2017 Share #287 Posted July 25, 2017 The M8's have a similar frame to the M7's, so that must have been the reason for no test out west. The M9's have a new frame however which is what was delaying them in the first place. It's interesting if any car would need to be tested the M8 would come to my mind. If you think about Kawasaki is really known for making EMU's in the US market. The M8 is the 1st mostly Metro and Coaches for North America. The M8's have computers backing up computers plus 3 power sources ATC,ACSES ect! The M2,4 and 6's ran 12.5KV 25/60hz different frequency's but I don't believe the switchover was on the fly. With that said im shocked they didn't undergo sometype of FRA testing EMI or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted July 25, 2017 Share #288 Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) I am very confused about this entire thing, does anyone actually know when the first cars will arrive in Long island? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sometime later this year -- see the slide quoted above. Also: excellent finding RRB! Edited July 25, 2017 by RR503 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 26, 2017 Share #289 Posted July 26, 2017 I remember specifically the M8's built in Japan were NOT tested in Pueblo, I was watching a ship documentary and The M8's were being loaded on from Hyogo. The ships arrival point was in New York, and I know those units had immediately been testing on MTA property, however the FRA had inspectors onboard during the testing periods, so a likely scenario is probable, where they will test on Long Island and have FRA inspectors on board. I believe testing in Pueblo is only neccesarry for inter-city long distance units such as the Charger and ACS-64. Do you have a video link by any chance? I'm interested in watching that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted July 26, 2017 Share #290 Posted July 26, 2017 Do you have a video link by any chance? I'm interested in watching that. I can try and find it, I posted it in transport news and videotography on facebook a while back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 26, 2017 Share #291 Posted July 26, 2017 I can try and find it, I posted it in transport news and videotography on facebook a while back. Not in the group unfortunately :/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted July 28, 2017 Share #292 Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) https://youtu.be/riTKE5zHCSY Here's a video of the M9 cars running back and forth. Sounds like they have the same traction motors as the M8s. (not my video) Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Edited July 28, 2017 by N4 Via Merrick Rd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted July 28, 2017 Share #293 Posted July 28, 2017 Here's a video of the M9 cars running back and forth. Sounds like they have the same traction motors as the M8s. (not my video) Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk At 1:23 you can see one of the new bonnets with the navy blue and periwinkle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted July 28, 2017 Share #294 Posted July 28, 2017 At 1:23 you can see one of the new bonnets with the navy blue and periwinkle I saw that, #9003 has a silver door. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted July 28, 2017 Share #295 Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) Here's a video of the M9 cars running back and forth. Sounds like they have the same traction motors as the M8s. (not my video) Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Considering i'm a musician and can't hear the motors at all, I wouldn't assume anything. I would also like to add that Mitsubishi is doing PART of the propulsion, however I guess it's not the same as the M7. They're doing the propulsion controllers and electrical equipment. http://www.mitsubishielectric.com/news/2014/1204-b.pdf Edited July 28, 2017 by jamesman8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted July 28, 2017 Share #296 Posted July 28, 2017 Considering i'm a musician and can't hear the motors at all, I wouldn't assume anything. I would also like to add that Mitsubishi is doing PART of the propulsion, however I guess it's not the same as the M7. They're doing the propulsion controllers and electrical equipment. http://www.mitsubishielectric.com/news/2014/1204-b.pdf Perhaps not EXACTLY like the M8. The propulsion on the M7s is much more audible compared to the M8s and this. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted July 28, 2017 Share #297 Posted July 28, 2017 Perhaps not EXACTLY like the M8. The propulsion on the M7s is much more audible compared to the M8s and this. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Yes however it appears this is a closed off area, and the camera is definitely more than 400 feet away. He is wildly zoomed in so lets not doubt anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted July 29, 2017 Share #298 Posted July 29, 2017 I can just barely hear the propulsion. For now, it sounds like a close variation to the sounds found on the M8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted July 30, 2017 Share #299 Posted July 30, 2017 Not in the group unfortunately :/ Found it. https://youtu.be/u_OSnioeFjY?t=1m32s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 30, 2017 Share #300 Posted July 30, 2017 At 1:23 you can see one of the new bonnets with the navy blue and periwinkle I was wondering if that was what that was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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