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12 hours ago, ibroketheprinter said:

Do we have any updates on the M9s expected service date? LIRR's twitter said May but from what I understand, testing is still going on.

According to this Newsday article, they are expected be in service by the end of this month:

 

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/lirr-new-trains-m9-electric-1.30750025

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Saw a clip of them testing on the Babylon Branch tonight...

They've removed the weights that were on the seats to simulate passengers and the protective coverings so revenue service must be sometime soon.

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I found myself near the Kawasaki plant in Yonkers today, and I saw quite a few M9s sitting around! yB2B63d.jpgu0JZWc2.jpg

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On 3/31/2019 at 7:23 PM, Bosco said:

First production pair (9015-9016) was sent from Yonkers to Hillside last week.  9017-9018 (now the lowest pair at Yonkers) have been on the test track, and cars up to 9034 are at/outside Yonkers either undergoing or about to undergo final assembly.

I was actually mistaken, 9007-9008 is still at Yonkers frequently on the test track.  9017-9018 was delivered within the past two weeks, and 9019-9020 has also been on the test track.  Generally, that test track (called the Function Test track) is the last step before the cars get sent out.  I've seen up to 9038 (except 9035) at Yonkers at different stages, either inside the factory or out.

Once the PA5 option order and R211 progress, it'll be a hell of a time to be fanning Yonkers station!

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On 5/20/2019 at 9:44 PM, Fan Railer said:

Entry into service has been delayed due to ongoing software issues.

Is the software the only thing holding them back?

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https://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/mta-committee-meeting-1.32884710

 

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is calling on top leaders of another contractor to appear before the board next month and answer for the ongoing delays in the manufacturing of the LIRR’s next fleet of train cars.

At a Manhattan meeting of the board’s railroad committee Monday, board members approved a motion to send a letter to the heads of Kawasaki Rail Car Inc. requesting them to attend their next meeting in July to discuss problems with the delivery of the Long Island Rail Road’s next generation of electric train cars, known as M9s.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

They're still having issues? Wasnt the pilot suppose to start service like 2 months ago? 

They was supposed to hit revenue service in May IIRC. I heard their now expected to hit service in August, we'll see...

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M9s entering revenue service tomorrow

http://www.mta.info/press-release/lirr/lirr-introduce-new-fleet-rail-cars-tomorrow?

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Long Island Rail Road President Phil Eng today announced that the LIRR’s next fleet of rail cars, known as the “M9” cars, will enter into passenger service tomorrow, Wednesday, Sept. 11, 2019.
The new cars incorporate and improve upon the most successful and popular features of the MTA’s two recent electric car fleets, the LIRR’s familiar M7s electric cars, and the M8 cars serving Metro-North’s New Haven Line, and will enhance safety.

“These new cars will offer new amenities and a better environment for our customers,” Eng said. “Even if your train isn’t composed of these cars, there’s a good chance they will benefit you because as we receive more of them, we will lengthen many of our busiest trains, providing more seats for more customers.”

The fleet will consist of 202 cars, the last of which are expected to begin passenger service in March 2021. The first eight cars are entering service tomorrow as the 6:50 a.m. train from Huntington, due into Hunterspoint Avenue at 7:49 a.m. The trainset’s later runs for tomorrow are anticipated to be as the 5:06 p.m. train from Penn Station due into Hempstead at 5:57 p.m., and the 10:37 p.m. train from Penn Station, due into Babylon at 11:32 p.m.

The M9 trainset is expected to operate on these same runs on Thursday. On Friday, the LIRR expects to lengthen the trainset to 10 cars and operate it on a different set of trains. The trainset will be lengthened again by two more cars, on Sept. 20, with the resulting 12-car trainset serving yet a different collection of trains throughout the days that follow.

The cars will have exterior destination signs on the front of cars that are visible to passengers as the train approaches the station, similar to the new cars on Metro-North’s New Haven Line. They will have electrical outlets on both sides of the car in each row of seats, and closed loop armrests that won’t tear garments or catch bag straps.

The cars will feature an innovation that is new for the first time in the region: an electronic display that will let passengers know what car within the train they are seated (for example, “Car 3 of 10”) which will be of help to customers exiting at stations where not every car will meet the platform.

Walking from car to car will become easier because between every other car there will be a door that operates at the push of a button. The seats in the cars will be slightly wider than the seats on the M7 cars, and the cars will seat more people than the M7 cars, with up to 6 additional seats in each pair of cars.

The cars are fully equipped for Positive Train Control, a major safety enhancement that will reduce the potential for human error to contribute to train-to-train collisions or derailments. They have cameras in the train engineer’s cab, facing into the cab to monitor the engineer’s alertness and facing forward to show the tracks ahead, and cameras in passenger area of the cars to serve as a deterrent to criminal activity.

The bathroom experience will be enhanced on the new cars, which will have better restroom design that improves cleanliness. There will be no touch needed for flushing the toilet, dispensing sink water and hand soap and drying hands. There are improved restroom doors and coat hooks and additional air quality treatments.

The cars will have additional speakers in the vestibule for clearer public announcements, threshold illuminating lights at the side and end doors, and are anticipated to offer a smoother ride than the M7 cars and reduce sun glare with a slightly increased level of window tint.

The cars are being designed and manufactured by Kawasaki Rail Car, based in Yonkers. The first 14 pilot cars were built in Japan, with these first eight aggressively tested in Pueblo, Colorado, before further aggressive testing on the tracks of the Long Island Rail Road. The remaining 188 cars are being manufactured in Lincoln, Nebraska, with final assembly taking place in Yonkers.

 

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Not my photo, but it looks like the children were out there in full force this morning.

Whether they went to school or not is another story.

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"Walking from car to car will become easier because between every other car there will be a door that operates at the push of a button."

 

Something that mainline passenger rail has always had. 

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1 hour ago, EphraimB said:

It says on the mta press release that the M9 is coming from Penn Station. What's it doing at Atlantic Terminal?

 

If you actually read through the press release, those were the times for that day, not every other day.

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1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

If you actually read through the press release, those were the times for that day, not every other day.

"The M9 trainset is expected to operate on these same runs on Thursday."

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1 minute ago, EphraimB said:

"The M9 trainset is expected to operate on these same runs on Thursday."

That doesn't actually mean they will. It wasn't a guarantee.

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2 hours ago, EphraimB said:

"The M9 trainset is expected to operate on these same runs on Thursday."

Key word there. Apparently the plan changed after the press release was drafted and they never updated it before releasing it. There were rumblings from people in-the-know on wednesday that the Thursday runs would not be as advertised lol.

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6 minutes ago, Fan Railer said:

Key word there. Apparently the plan changed after the press release was drafted and they never updated it before releasing it. There were rumblings from people in-the-know on wednesday that the Thursday runs would not be as advertised lol.

When should I expect the M9s on the Far Rockaway branch?

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8 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said:

How did they get the wider seats, and the extra seats, squeezed in? Narrower aisles? Wider car bodies? 

I'm gonna assume either narrower aisles or thinner walls. 

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1 hour ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

I'm gonna assume either narrower aisles or thinner walls. 

I'm pretty sure the aisles are narrower (and there's less space between rows).

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2 hours ago, Lex said:

I'm pretty sure the aisles are narrower (and there's less space between rows).

Didn't seem narrower to me when I rode it.

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