SEPTA's Regional Lines joins MTA's New Haven Coordior w/ shortage of aging train cars due to winter

[Shortline Bus]

Now add Phildelphia area's SEPTA regional rail cars to the list of the Northeast's mass transit system having a severe shortage due to the brutal winter 2011 season. And just like New Haven Line, (SEPTA) has an aging fleet of 30-40 year old-plus cars that about to be replaced.

Here link from SEPTA's General Manager in an online reply to the problem.

I am sure Metsfan will have something to say on this as well.

 

 

 

http://septa.org/service/winter/message.html

[metsfan]

I have been seeing reading and PRR silverliner 3's a lot at trenton, and a few times on the reading delaware river viaduct, so they are still out and about, but i have only seen one pair of silverliner 2's in the last 6 months, and this was when i was down in philly, so i dunno which line it was on.

 

- A

[Shortline Bus]

I have been seeing reading and PRR silverliner 3's a lot at trenton, and a few times on the reading delaware river viaduct, so they are still out and about, but i have only seen one pair of silverliner 2's in the last 6 months, and this was when i was down in philly, so i dunno which line it was on.

 

- A

 

 

 

 

Intresting!:eek:

[Forest Glen]

This is actually good because it will force SEPTA to run more Silverliner V's.

[N-Trizzy2609]

This is actually good because it will force SEPTA to run more Silverliner V's.

 

Watch it! I said the same thing about the M8s in the Failing M2s thread. Got flamed at...

[Forest Glen]

Subcrap?

 

Those losers always like old, worn down trains.

[Nova RTS 9147]

This is actually good because it will force SEPTA to run more Silverliner V's.

 

Do they have enough at this point? If so then they'll probably be doing that.

 

This is also a cautionary tale as to what happens when you wait too long to retire equipment.

 

Watch it! I said the same thing about the M8s in the Failing M2s thread. Got flamed at...

 

Subcrap?

 

Those losers always like old, worn down trains.

 

**** wannabe Subtalk!

[metsfan]

Hey, lets keep it real here. The silverliner 2 and 3 have no dynamic brakes, but they still accelerate like new. The lack of dynamic brakes puts a huge stress on the braking systems and increase stopping distance.

 

I like riding on these ancient cars they ride well, they accelerate and brake well, they are time machines, they are largely unchanged from when conrail operated them for the short time they did.

 

- A

[N-Trizzy2609]

I know some of the IVs are outta service due to transistor problems. ALOT of Arrow IIIs JUST went back into service cuz there transistors are worse then SEPTA's. Like the Arrow IIIs are M2 status.

[engineerboy6561]

This is actually good because it will force SEPTA to run more Silverliner V's.

 

That depends. Ideally, that would be the case, but according to railroad.net SEPTA has only six of the new cars on property, as compared to MN which has upwards of 25. Yes, if things get truly desperate there is the option of putting the Vs in revenue service as they come in, but even then it could easily be July or August before they get enough cars in for that to make a difference. I personally bet that if things get that bad they'll start running push-pull sets off-peak the same way that the New Haven line does now.