Locomotion69 Posted July 27, 2011 Share #701 Posted July 27, 2011 If this game was in April, ok, not a big deal. But there are only 2 months left in the season. That game could have cost the Pirates the wild card or even the division title. That umpire is a 14 yr veteran, $350,000 yr, 1st class hotels, airfare, meals, etc. He averages a little over $2,000 a game. Not bad for a job where you get 4-5 months of vacation. They have a strong union, that is a problem. Just like a weatherman, they can be wrong many times and still keep their job. http://twitpic.com/5wj2kk <<<Jerry Meals spoiled daughter(Peyton Meals) BITCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 27, 2011 Share #702 Posted July 27, 2011 Again Locomotion IMO you were way out of line to wish death on Meals. If you want him to be 'fired' asap over the blown call, that fine and I would have no problem with it. Personally i would not mind any ref/ump on horrible calls like this whether in MLB, NFL, NBA NHL or one of the international soccer leagues get fired on the spot. Never for death like that though. It was only a damn baseball game. Not as though he murdered or raped someone. Although he may ticked not only Pirates fans but most MLB fans across America. Locomotion you normally one of the better posters here. On this one though you went little too far. If this game was in April, ok, not a big deal. But there are only 2 monthsleft in the season. That game could have cost the Pirates the wild card or even the division title. That umpire is a 14 yr veteran, $350,000 yr, 1st class hotels, airfare, meals, etc. He averages a little over $2,000 a game. Not bad for a job where you get 4-5 months of vacation. They have a strong union, that is a problem. Just like a weatherman, they can be wrong many times and still keep their job. http://twitpic.com/5wj2kk The whole family is sick in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted July 27, 2011 Share #703 Posted July 27, 2011 I looked at the replays several times and I saw what Jerry Meals might have saw. It does look possible from his angle that the tag was missed, but replays from different angles shows the tag was there. You guys say umpires suck, but its the god damn human element of the game, said many times before. IMHO, its another reason to use as a reason for expanding replay. Another issue in my mind is that the game was over 6hrs long.... I'm sure somebody wanted it to end earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Subway Posted July 27, 2011 Share #704 Posted July 27, 2011 Again Locomotion IMO you were way out of line to wish death on Meals. If you want him to be 'fired' asap over the blown call, that fine and I would have no problem with it.Personally i would not mind any ref/ump on horrible calls like this whether in MLB, NFL, NBA NHL or one of the international soccer leagues get fired on the spot. Never for death like that though. It was only a damn baseball game. Not as though he murdered or raped someone. Although he may ticked not only Pirates fans but most MLB fans across America. Locomotion you normally one of the better posters here. On this one though you went little too far. Well-said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 27, 2011 Share #705 Posted July 27, 2011 All I'm going to say here is... You will never catch me being that fanatical to the point where wishing death would even come into the equation of whoever's responsible for my team supposedly being screwed.... Yeah outrage comes into play, but for me, not to that level.... There is NO sports team I cherish/love that much, I'm sorry..... As far as the play itself, I saw what the umpire may have seen also.... I also noticed the reaction of Julio Lugo; someone that felt that he wasn't tagged, doesn't make that delayed a reaction of stepping on the plate.... - Do I think he was out, yes.... - Do I think it was "bang-bang" (as they say), no.... This is why I hate sweep tags in general, but esp. at home plate; too many variables goes against the catcher when they do that; for one, had the ball come out of his glove there during any part of that play, Lugo would've been called safe also.... The only reason I say this was worse than the Galarraga blown call, b/c last night's game resulted in (the team that ended up getting screwed) a loss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 27, 2011 Share #706 Posted July 27, 2011 This breaking MLB News is presented by Subway. "Eat Fresh.':p First the breaking news with huge impact all over the National League playoff race. SNY and the NYDaily News are reporting the Mets have traded Carlos Beltran to the Giants for 3-4 'high level' (not yet named)prospects. To me this is huge as both the Giants and Pirates both need Beltran badly for their offensive challenge teams. Meanwhile the Angels Everest Santana throws a no-hitter vs. the Tribe in Cleveland. And not to mention there still the media fallout from the Pirates-Braves and the 'blown call.' So a busy day in MLB as the trading deadline is at Midnight on Sunday July 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted July 27, 2011 Share #707 Posted July 27, 2011 This breaking MLB News is presented by Subway. "Eat Fresh.':p First the breaking news with huge impact all over the National League playoff race. SNY and the NYDaily News are reporting the Mets have traded Carlos Beltran to the Giants for 3-4 'high level' (not yet named)prospects. To me this is huge as both the Giants and Pirates both need Beltran badly for their offensive challenge teams. Meanwhile the Angels Everest Santana throws a no-hitter vs. the Tribe in Cleveland. And not to mention there still the media fallout from the Pirates-Braves and the 'blown call.' So a busy day in MLB as the trading deadline is at Midnight on Sunday July 31. The Giants won the NL West last year without a big-time power bat and are on track to do so this year without one. I guess they see Beltran as someone who could put quick runs on the board during the postseason which will certainly help them get past the Phillies during the postseason with the pitching they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted July 27, 2011 Share #708 Posted July 27, 2011 It also seems Ubaldo trade talks are heating up as well. I personally want the Yanks to get him, but the Rockies' price is through the roof. If the Rockies keep their original price, I would say no to the trade. If their price goes back down I would go after Ubaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Subway Posted July 27, 2011 Share #709 Posted July 27, 2011 This breaking MLB News is presented by Subway. "Eat Fresh.':p First the breaking news with huge impact all over the National League playoff race. SNY and the NYDaily News are reporting the Mets have traded Carlos Beltran to the Giants for 3-4 'high level' (not yet named)prospects. To me this is huge as both the Giants and Pirates both need Beltran badly for their offensive challenge teams. Please let Beltran go somewhere obscure, like the Angels or the Giants. Did I say Giants or did I not say Giants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted July 27, 2011 Share #710 Posted July 27, 2011 In other news the Seattle Mariners defeat the New York Yankees 9-2 to snap their 17 game losing streak. Felix Hernandez was the winning pitcher and Phil Hughes gets the loss. King Felix is clearly an ace and any team willing to trade for him should give up a king's ransom to the Mariners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted July 27, 2011 Share #711 Posted July 27, 2011 I would go all out on King Felix, not Ubaldo. Personally, I don't trust the NL's star pitchers going to the AL because they are facing lineups that they normally only face for a game a year. If the Yanks can somehow get both with depleting the farm then this would be one sweet summer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted July 27, 2011 Share #712 Posted July 27, 2011 I would go all out on King Felix, not Ubaldo. Personally, I don't trust the NL's star pitchers going to the AL because they are facing lineups that they normally only face for a game a year. If the Yanks can somehow get both with depleting the farm then this would be one sweet summer.... Don't forget that Ubaldo was very shaky early in the season. While the Yankees should look for another starter I don't want them to give up any critical offensive pieces and if they do get an All Star quality pitcher we have the question over whether C.C. Sabathia is the ace or a #2 starter now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted July 27, 2011 Share #713 Posted July 27, 2011 Sabathia of course remains #1. After the way he pitched this year, it would be an insult to demote him. I still rather have King Felix in the Bronx then Ubaldo. Since Felix is an AL pitcher, I would trust him more then a NL pitcher going to the AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted July 28, 2011 Share #714 Posted July 28, 2011 In other news the Seattle Mariners defeat the New York Yankees 9-2 to snap their 17 game losing streak. Felix Hernandez was the winning pitcher and Phil Hughes gets the loss. King Felix is clearly an ace and any team willing to trade for him should give up a king's ransom to the Mariners. I would go all out on King Felix, not Ubaldo. Personally, I don't trust the NL's star pitchers going to the AL because they are facing lineups that they normally only face for a game a year. If the Yanks can somehow get both with depleting the farm then this would be one sweet summer.... Seattle's GM has stated that they are absolutely not trading King Felix, not even for ten players in return. We'll see how that holds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted July 28, 2011 Share #715 Posted July 28, 2011 Seattle's GM has stated that they are absolutely not trading King Felix, not even for ten players in return. We'll see how that holds up. I am wondering with what money is the Mariners going to pay him next year. 18 million is a lot of money for a team who could not afford to pay Alex Rodriguez and Randy Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 28, 2011 Share #716 Posted July 28, 2011 Mariners... streak.... over.... This *expletive* always happens to the yankees.... It's always some bum team that creeps up & finds a way to beat em.... What it with NY sports teams & not beating teams they're supposed to beat.... Before this series, I didn't even know they were riding a long losing streak.... after I saw the projected SP's for the 3 games, I told co-workers, watch they lose that game Hernandez pitches.... and true to form, it happens..... Yes you can't win em all, but my god, as a contending team, you have to step on the throats of those (teams) that are that far beneath you...... side note: Get rid of Boone Logan... the guy is garbage... I smh everytime I see the guy pitch When was the last time he appeared in a game where he hasn't gave up a run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted July 28, 2011 Share #717 Posted July 28, 2011 ...Why the hell did we even trade Arodys Vizcaino for this pathetic excuse for a left hander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted July 28, 2011 Share #718 Posted July 28, 2011 It's not Logan's fault that Cano and Granderson dropped the ball. Logan would have gotten out of the inning if his defense did not let him down. Then again, is J.C. Romero in AAA better than Logan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 28, 2011 Share #719 Posted July 28, 2011 It's not Logan's fault that Cano and Granderson dropped the ball. Logan would have gotten out of the inning if his defense did not let him down. Then again, is J.C. Romero in AAA better than Logan? True. Logan is not supposed to be this 'great' pitcher. There a reason he is a middle innings 'specialist.' Middle Innings guys are the weakest link in any pitching staff. Not good enough to be a starter and not good enough to even be a 'set-up' i.e 7th or 8th inning man, let alone a closer. They are usually in games when the starters either has a bad game or had to leave early due to injury. Thus as as long middle innings pitchers like Logan don't stink up the joint that is all you can hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 28, 2011 Share #720 Posted July 28, 2011 It's not Logan's fault that Cano and Granderson dropped the ball. Logan would have gotten out of the inning if his defense did not let him down. Then again, is J.C. Romero in AAA better than Logan? The Yankee defense as of late is another issue I brought up in prior posts, which has little to do with Logan's performance this year.... ....I'm not makin a case for romero; his achilles heel over his career has been one of walkin the ballpark left & right..... why would anyone think about taking a chance on someone like that if they don't feel they have to... That says a lot about Logan's performance..... True. Logan is not supposed to be this 'great' pitcher. There a reason he is a middle innings 'specialist.' Middle Innings guys are the weakest link in any pitching staff. Not good enough to be a starter and not good enough to even be a 'set-up' i.e 7th or 8th inning man, let alone a closer. They are usually in games when the starters either has a bad game or had to leave early due to injury. Thus as as long middle innings pitchers like Logan don't stink up the joint that is all you can hope for. It aint about Logan supposed to being a great pitcher... all he has to be is adequate (that's the role of a middle reliever really), and he's not even that..... Just b/c middle relievers don't have starters' stuff or closer's stuff doesn't mean they're supposed to suck... I'm not satisfied with that line of thinking, nor am I buyin it..... It doesn't give this guy a pass to stink up the place (which is what he does) & to have to shudder everytime he's thrown on the mound.... ...and Logan is not a longman (that's ayala's role), he's supposed to be their "lefty specialist"... With Feliciano & that other overrated bum Marte out, Girardi throws Logan out there, for the simple fact they have no proven lefty left.... It's no accident they just happened to bring this kid Garrison up not too long ago, and to sign Romero about 2 weeks ago.... they're desperate right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted July 28, 2011 Share #721 Posted July 28, 2011 My wish came true. Beltran goes to SF for a minor league pitcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted July 28, 2011 Share #722 Posted July 28, 2011 True. Logan is not supposed to be this 'great' pitcher. There a reason he is a middle innings 'specialist.' He's a lefty one out guy who can't get lefties out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted July 28, 2011 Share #723 Posted July 28, 2011 The Cincinatti Reds are on the verge of being swept at home by the New York Mets. They are currently trailing 9-3 entering the sixth inning. This shows that change needs to be made in the playoff format. The Reds are under .500 and yet are playoff contenders in the weak NL Central and the Mets are 10 games out in the NL East. Teams need to be rewarded based on record and the eventual champ of this NL Central will not have earned their playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted July 28, 2011 Share #724 Posted July 28, 2011 The only thing I would change in the postseason is the fact that the All Star Game decides home field advantage. I would rather have the overall W-L of both the AL and NL at the end of the season, and the league with the better record gets their team with home field advantage. For example, the Giants were to play the Yanks in the World Series and the NL had a better record overall then the AL, then the Giants would get home field advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted July 28, 2011 Share #725 Posted July 28, 2011 Mets have the 2nd highest B.A in the NL behind the Cardinals, but pitching is more important and in the Mets are 10th in that dept. Give Duda a chance in RF, nothing to lose. 9 games left with the Braves this season, 6 at home, 3 on the road. 7 games back for the wild card is a lot at this point in the season, but I would settle for 3rd place with an over 500 record. I think this is the Mets highest point of the season, +3 over 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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