R110B Posted March 10, 2011 Share #1 Posted March 10, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (Nokia1680c-2b/2.0 (06.22) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) Post All info here about the b division arrival boards. What ever happend to the testing of 8th av line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 10, 2011 Share #2 Posted March 10, 2011 They do plan on installing train arrival boards on the line from what Walder said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted March 10, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (Nokia1680c-2b/2.0 (06.22) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) Just that line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 10, 2011 Share #4 Posted March 10, 2011 I don't know that is all that Walder mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted March 11, 2011 Share #5 Posted March 11, 2011 Its a big division, Ive seen other lines other than 8Av have the equipment just cant remember where. Its not gonna spread as quickly as it did in the IRT, where the system was overhauled from the ground up just for those boards (and other long-term cost cutting procedures). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted March 11, 2011 Share #6 Posted March 11, 2011 Its a big division, Ive seen other lines other than 8Av have the equipment just cant remember where. Its not gonna spread as quickly as it did in the IRT, where the system was overhauled from the ground up just for those boards (and other long-term cost cutting procedures). they do plan too have some what of a PA CIS system up on the N R D M lines at a few stations not all and not any time soon they will use the old already in place systems. it will not be on the level as the IRT lines at all, just a alert system, ill see when they think they will have that in place and what stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted March 11, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 11, 2011 Im still wondering when QBL will get them. I know the will get them when CBTC is installed. What I don't understand is why arent the BMT/IND boards like the IRT ones with the bullet and destination? I think it would make more sense to have the route bullet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted March 11, 2011 Im still wondering when QBL will get them. I know the will get them when CBTC is installed. What I don't understand is why arent the BMT/IND boards like the IRT ones with the bullet and destination? I think it would make more sense to have the route bullet there. 1, the QBLine wont have them till 2013 and the bdivison system pa/cis is based off track info not specific trains themselves so it would be train arriving 2 stations away on the Local track. 2, vs. the IRT who has ATS(auto train supervison) thats why the IRT has each train in exact time how long the # trains will be from that station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted March 12, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 12, 2011 1, the QBLine wont have them till 2013 and the bdivison system pa/cis is based off track info not specific trains themselves so it would be train arriving 2 stations away on the Local track.2, vs. the IRT who has ATS(auto train supervison) thats why the IRT has each train in exact time how long the # trains will be from that station. thank you for that, i couldnt have said it any better myself. the IRT will be the only one with the PA CIS that works like that, showing the train and where its going the BMT and IND wont have it like that it will just say theres a exp or lcl train 2 stations away but not what train it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Posted March 12, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 12, 2011 At 145th St , it actually does distinguish between a Bronx bound train or a 168/207th st train. So it could tell between trains, but maybe only at that particular section only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted March 12, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 12, 2011 Im still wondering when QBL will get them. I know the will get them when CBTC is installed. What I don't understand is why arent the BMT/IND boards like the IRT ones with the bullet and destination? I think it would make more sense to have the route bullet there. the has the same style ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman1455 Posted March 12, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 12, 2011 Doesn't the IRT run on ATS..That might be the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 12, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 12, 2011 the has the same style ones. To a certain extent. The uses CBTC and the signs show the next 2 trains and where they're exactly at (mostly, about a minute off though) At Myrtle-Wyckoff, they have these 3 screens (2 on the platform, 1 by the token booth) that show exactly where every train is on the entire line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted March 12, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 12, 2011 To a certain extent. The uses CBTC and the signs show the next 2 trains and where they're exactly at (mostly, about a minute off though) At Myrtle-Wyckoff, they have these 3 screens (2 on the platform, 1 by the token booth) that show exactly where every train is on the entire line but they arent as good as the ATS system at all there never off really at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share #15 Posted March 12, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (Nokia1680c-2b/2.0 (06.22) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) but they arent as good as the ATS system at all there never off really at all the was rushed thats why it was off in arrival and they had teething issues with cbtc and ato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 12, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 12, 2011 but they arent as good as the ATS system at all there never off really at all They fixed the bugs in the system (mostly) and there's a big difference between the 2... In the ATS system, they tell you how far away the train is based off of how far away it is from a certain signal. So basically if a train is held at a signal, the countdown clock will still show the same time since the train hasn't moved at all. Now the ones on the is based off the actual nearest train to the station so in a way its more accurate. But then again, not all technoligy is perfect so every system hs their fair share mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted March 12, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 12, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (Nokia1680c-2b/2.0 (06.22) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) the was rushed thats why it was off in arrival and they had teething issues with cbtc and ato. yea i know and they still havent done it rite at all its not on the level of the IRT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted March 13, 2011 yea i know and they still havent done it rite at all its not on the level of the IRT will the boards for the pa/cis are gonna beon the outside prtion of the line or the inside portion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted March 13, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 13, 2011 will the boards for the pa/cis are gonna beon the outside prtion of the line or the inside portion? i dont know if they will do it like that as of yet but im sure they will do it because it is helpful but not 100% on that system yet its still a work in possess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share #20 Posted March 13, 2011 well any new info would be appriciated when you get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted March 14, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 14, 2011 well any new info would be appriciated when you get it. Unfortunately in the short term period, most of the line stations is not getting the countdown clocks yet. The and lines will have it in selected stations in the next year or so, unless MTA needs someone (cough)Bloomberg(cough) to write a blank check and they can finish all 300+ subway stations with the system running. Relied heavily on the outdated on the old black box info in the station mezzanine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted March 14, 2011 Author Share #22 Posted March 14, 2011 Unfortunately in the short term period, most of the line stations is not getting the countdown clocks yet. The and lines will have it in selected stations in the next year or so, unless MTA needs someone (cough)Bloomberg(cough) to write a blank check and they can finish all 300+ subway stations with the system running. Relied heavily on the outdated on the old black box info in the station mezzanine. do you know which stations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted March 14, 2011 Share #23 Posted March 14, 2011 do you know which stations? Read this post: http://nyctransitforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=398460&postcount=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted March 14, 2011 Share #24 Posted March 14, 2011 do you know which stations? this is for all that are looking forward too the countdown clocks on the B div, the stations that are planed too have them will not have them until 2012 some stations do have it but its not running ATS or CBTC, so that means the train cant be ID so it will just be like the ones at 145th 125th 59th st if your in that area and seen them thats what its going too be. what would be a plus is the announcements for delays and or service changes on the weekends and weeknights, thats really all they will have, not like the A div Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share #25 Posted March 15, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (Nokia1680c-2b/2.0 (06.22) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) Im fine with basic and not expecting them to be like the a div. As long they are on thats fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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