3rd Avenue El Posted March 20, 2011 Share #1 Posted March 20, 2011 okay here in this thread we will discuss the equipment used on commuter train systems from boston to portland. by discussing one member will post a commuter rail car type for ex: the comet 2 then everybody discusses the faults the car brings and the good things the car brings and what type of commuter line the car is mainly used on and why. the person who post a commuter rail car must also post a picture of it. even if the picture is of a model of the real thing. when somebody post a commuter car they must give the specs example: car type: m7 main role: long distance commuter systems used on: mta metro north and long island railroad debut for service in:2003 train consist(#of cars in typical train):7 but thats just an example ill begin the thread discussions with a bombardier car: car type: bombardier multi level main role: long distance commuter systems: nj transit, mta long island rairoad, caltrain, sounder, metra, mbta many more but to many to list debut:2008 train consist: typically 8 cars seen on most lines bombardier multi level a typical bombardier multi level in service at a nj transit station. i like that this car looks so modern because its just gives a feel that the future is near. one of the good things it carries almost 2 times what a typical comet car carries. one of the faults is the car is so heavy that at high speed they sway to much. since the car is very heavy the car wheels screech when stopping and rounding a bend. the car can also be used to pull an entire train without a locomotive. although wheels screech when stopping has a good braking and acceleration rate. okay anybody else has anything to say? if anybody wants they can post more pictures of this car until the discussion for this car ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted March 20, 2011 Share #2 Posted March 20, 2011 okay here in this thread we will discuss the equipment used on commuter train systems from boston to portland. by discussing one member will post a commuter rail car type for ex: the comet 2 then everybody discusses the faults the car brings and the good things the car brings and what type of commuter line the car is mainly used on and why. the person who post a commuter rail car must also post a picture of it. even if the picture is of a model of the real thing. when somebody post a commuter car they must give the specs example: car type: m7 main role: long distance commuter systems used on: mta metro north and long island railroad debut for service in:2003 train consist(#of cars in typical train):7 but thats just an example ill begin the thread discussions with a bombardier car: car type: bombardier multi level main role: long distance commuter systems: nj transit, mta long island rairoad, caltrain, sounder, metra, mbta many more but to many to list debut:2008 train consist: typically 8 cars seen on most lines bombardier multi level a typical bombardier multi level in service at a nj transit station. i like that this car looks so modern because its just gives a feel that the future is near. one of the good things it carries almost 2 times what a typical comet car carries. one of the faults is the car is so heavy that at high speed they sway to much. since the car is very heavy the car wheels screech when stopping and rounding a bend. the car can also be used to pull an entire train without a locomotive. although wheels screech when stopping has a good braking and acceleration rate. okay anybody else has anything to say? if anybody wants they can post more pictures of this car until the discussion for this car ends. bombardier multi level is only used by NJT and Montreal's AMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted March 20, 2011 but ive seen bombardier multi levels working on caltrain and sounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted March 20, 2011 Share #4 Posted March 20, 2011 but ive seen bombardier multi levels working on caltrain and sounder Those are Bombardier Bi-Level cars. GO Transit (Toronto), AMT-Agence métropolitaine de transport (Montreal), West Coast Express (Vancouver) Sounder, Caltrain, Metrolink (LA), Coaster (San Diego), Tri-Rail (Miami), Trinity Railway Express (Dallas-Fort Worth), FrontRunner (Salt Lake City– Ogden) ,New Mexico Rail Runner Express (Albuquerque), Northstar Commuter Rail, (Minneapolis – St. Paul), The Altamont Commuter Express-ACE Rail (Stockton and San Jose) all use the Bombardier Bi-Level Cars that were designed for GO Transit by Hawker Siddeley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted March 20, 2011 Those are Bombardier Bi-Level cars. GO Transit (Toronto), AMT-Agence métropolitaine de transport (Montreal), West Coast Express (Vancouver) Sounder, Caltrain, Metrolink (LA), Coaster (San Diego), Tri-Rail (Miami), Trinity Railway Express (Dallas-Fort Worth), FrontRunner (Salt Lake City– Ogden) ,New Mexico Rail Runner Express (Albuquerque), Northstar Commuter Rail, (Minneapolis – St. Paul), The Altamont Commuter Express-ACE Rail (Stockton and San Jose) all use the Bombardier Bi-Level Cars that were designed for GO Transit by Hawker Siddeley. oh okay thank you for the correction. still right now in the thread its open for discussion on the bombardier multi level B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 20, 2011 Share #6 Posted March 20, 2011 Here's another with the ALP-46 and ALP-46a leading. By the way, the MLV operate 7 to 10 car trains, by the norm is 8/9 or 10. the RVL operates 5 and 6 car trains with the occasional 7 car train here and there 6 being the norm. With inspections and maintenance schedules sometimes there will be more or less equipment available, thus varying train lengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 20, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 20, 2011 Some more rolling stock photos: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted March 20, 2011 okay lets move on to the comet series rolling stock. anybody want to start you may now post photos of any kind of rolling stock for comparison everybody got it? okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 20, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 20, 2011 The shoreliner (comet) has been around for a really long time. The comet 1's are still used here and there, and the comet 2's are likely going to be here for a while longer. The comet 3 and 4 were a success, and while the 5 had some problems they are now seen as reliable. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted March 20, 2011 The shoreliner (comet) has been around for a really long time. The comet 1's are still used here and there, and the comet 2's are likely going to be here for a while longer. The comet 3 and 4 were a success, and while the 5 had some problems they are now seen as reliable. - A now to make this into a dsicussion how its supose to be what type of problems did the comet v cars have. because i see them alot on nj transit and they seem fine. what problems did the comet v have? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted March 21, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 21, 2011 Interesting thread. Is there one for subway cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share #12 Posted March 21, 2011 Interesting thread. Is there one for subway cars? yes im going to make one right now its in the nyc subway section. should have an exclamation point next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKorean Posted March 24, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 24, 2011 This thread needs more gallery cars. It would be cool if NJT started using what Metra uses on their Metra Electric line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted March 24, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 24, 2011 This thread needs more gallery cars. It would be cool if NJT started using what Metra uses on their Metra Electric line. So...where is that gonna go? Even the caternary is certain area give Multilevels speed restrictions because sometimes the wires rub along the ceiling. And that's 14ft-6in, those METRA EMUs are 17 feet. Plus NJT is 25k-12k Catenary. the Metra runs off 750 Volt caternary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKorean Posted March 24, 2011 Share #15 Posted March 24, 2011 You are telling me those are as tall as Amtrak Superliners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted March 24, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 24, 2011 just an FYI, the M7's come in married pairs, so 7 car consists are not possible with them... typical length is 6-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share #17 Posted March 24, 2011 just an FYI, the M7's come in married pairs, so 7 car consists are not possible with them... typical length is 6-12. thank you i was just giving an example it did not have to be perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 11, 2015 Share #18 Posted April 11, 2015 now to make this into a dsicussion how its supose to be what type of problems did the comet v cars have. because i see them alot on nj transit and they seem fine. what problems did the comet v have? :confused: The door control system was not reliable and often conductors had to open them at the door control panel for each car at every stop. This meant some cars had doors that did not open. This also meant the locomotive may not recieve the door open/close info. Due that that last point, some crew applied the manual emergency brake once the train stopped to keep it from leaving with open doors and/or crew still on the platform. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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