Phil D. 0 #1 Posted May 10, 2008 After riding the POS R160s on my home line everyday since they first started running and on the Larry, I've come to the conclusion that the HVAC and ACC suck really bad. When ever I step into a 160 or even a 143 for that matter, its all humid inside the train. I was riding the 160 Ms yesterday waiting for a friend to come up to meet me and I stepped inside of a 160 and jumped out. The air outside was much better then the air inside the train. It was hot and humid in the train meanwhile outside is was perfect. Its also funny when I step into a brand new set, the smell is horrible. It smells like new plastic mixed with open ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R32 3348 10 #2 Posted May 10, 2008 All new technology trains use automatic climate control so they adjust based on the climate inside the train. And how do you blame the train for the smell and not the people who use it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superdotny 0 #3 Posted May 10, 2008 Actually, that smell comes from the air outside, the people inside the train, and new plastic smell of the R160s. I rather have that quality air control than the other train sets. Additionally, the "better" vents are at the center of the car and the ends of the B cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trainfan22 1,782 #4 Posted May 10, 2008 The reason why the r160s smell funny when brand new is because of the plastic the builders use on the train stinks. you cant blame it on the riders for the train smelling funny. The older r160s smell fine its just the brand new ones that stink. And yea the r160s HAVC does suck during the winter time it feels like the A/C is on. And vise versa during the summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cait Sith 8,116 #5 Posted May 10, 2008 The R160As have that warm feeling in it, but as said, its climate control based. The R160Bs now are putting on their air conditioners because of the warm weather we've been having. I've been on some R160A M trains and when its humid, there's no cooling in the cars, so it feels quite muggy inside @_@ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
error46146 1,007 #6 Posted May 11, 2008 you know what i've noticed, when the R160's are coming in the station and then when they finally stop and you step in when your over the gap between the train and platform you get this blast of hot air in your face coming from the bottom of the R160 like its a steam room down there in my opinion all subway cars except for the R142 are humid and sticky in the summer and apparently the R160 is no exception Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo M 201 35 #7 Posted May 11, 2008 R160s feel fine when I walk into them. I think the NTTs might have the same cilmate control system HBLR trains have or something similar except you can really feel the A/C during the summer because operators put it so that its blasting (which puts me to sleep sometimes ). The winter it just feels really comfortable in those trains with the heat going just right. For NTTs just sit by the storm doors and you'll be fine, you feel the air better. There, solution for the temporary so you, I'm not even going to say what I want to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cait Sith 8,116 #8 Posted May 11, 2008 Just a bit off topic here What is up with these brakes?! Is this the result of what happens when T/Os put too much pressure on the R160s? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superdotny 0 #9 Posted May 11, 2008 Hmm...is that 8832? I rode on that squeaky train yesterday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cait Sith 8,116 #10 Posted May 11, 2008 8868 - 8872 and 8928 - 8932. Siemens Train I was doing my usual video taking and when I ran into this one, it sounds like the more messed up brakes of the R32 ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo M 201 35 #11 Posted May 11, 2008 It looked like the T/O came in a little too fast but since you both said you've seen this train several times with the brakes like that, then it may just be that more than the T/O coming in too quick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
error46146 1,007 #12 Posted May 14, 2008 its the curse of the R40 Slant !! you think those squeaky brakes are going away soon?? lol but seriously some of the R40 brakes sound just like that if you've noticed...maybe there really is a curse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cait Sith 8,116 #13 Posted May 14, 2008 its the curse of the R40 Slant !! you think those squeaky brakes are going away soon?? lol but seriously some of the R40 brakes sound just like that if you've noticed...maybe there really is a curse Oh screw that ! The best trains to have those super loud brakes are the R32s HANDS DOWN!! They may be loud and could mess up your hearing, but it made riding those cars quite enjoyable, especially when they ran on the Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R32 3348 10 #14 Posted May 14, 2008 its the curse of the R40 Slant !! you think those squeaky brakes are going away soon?? lol but seriously some of the R40 brakes sound just like that if you've noticed...maybe there really is a curse Maybe the R160s were having some fun with the R142As last night... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
error46146 1,007 #15 Posted May 14, 2008 the loudest brakes trains in my opinion is the R32s from Jamaica Yard and R42 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bstyles 50 #16 Posted May 15, 2008 Yeah, it's like they refuse to change the brakes or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R32 3348 10 #17 Posted May 15, 2008 the loudest brakes trains in my opinion is the R32s from Jamaica Yard and R42 The R142A are the new Phase II. There's been improvement recently though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superdotny 0 #18 Posted May 16, 2008 Hmm...is that 8832? I rode on that squeaky train yesterday. Correction 8932. I caught that train again! It does have a loud (and a high frequency, too) squeak when it decelerates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bstyles 50 #19 Posted May 16, 2008 Not to mention that in the summer, the R32 and R40 freeze you alive!!!B) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metsfan 2 #20 Posted May 16, 2008 Not to mention that in the summer, the R32 and R40 freeze you alive!!!B) These are warnings i guess? - Andy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bstyles 50 #21 Posted May 17, 2008 They don't have those!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metsfan 2 #22 Posted May 17, 2008 They don't have those!!! Huh? - Andy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
error46146 1,007 #23 Posted May 17, 2008 i seen that thermometer sticker all over the subway now.. i wonder what it means Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metsfan 2 #24 Posted May 17, 2008 i seen that thermometer sticker all over the subway now.. i wonder what it means I was wondering too. - Andy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RTOMan 1,473 #25 Posted May 17, 2008 Correction 8932. I caught that train again! It does have a loud (and a high frequency, too) squeak when it decelerates. Not anymore operated 8932 today on the (N)ovember on my last trip form Stillwell .. Ran smooth and no squeaking noise whatsoever.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites