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4 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

 Your rabbi lurks on this site? Now that's funny.  Sounds like he was having a panic attack and schvitzing all at once about your lack of posts. lol

BrooklynBus will attest that I have been an honorary member of the faith for almost 60 years¬†ūüėä

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What is the point of those timers on the n/b (A) express tracks near Ralph Ave ? Trains gain some decent speed on that grade before timers slow em. 

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16 minutes ago, brakethrow said:

What is the point of those timers on the n/b (A) express tracks near Ralph Ave ? Trains gain some decent speed on that grade before timers slow em. 

Its going downhill.

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33 minutes ago, brakethrow said:

What is the point of those timers on the n/b (A) express tracks near Ralph Ave ? Trains gain some decent speed on that grade before timers slow em. 

Yes. There were a whole bunch of stations on the (A) that TOs would frequently overrun in the 80s and 90s when trains, well, moved (Nostrand, Utica, Bway Jct, Jay being frequent culprits) so they plastered those areas with GT. 

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14 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

Its going downhill.

 

13 hours ago, RR503 said:

Yes. There were a whole bunch of stations on the (A) that TOs would frequently overrun in the 80s and 90s when trains, well, moved (Nostrand, Utica, Bway Jct, Jay being frequent culprits) so they plastered those areas with GT. 

Do you think they'll remain?

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45 minutes ago, N6 Limited said:

Do you think they'll remain?

The only ones I can see being modded are the one shot s/b out of High and the two shots coming into Jay. The n/b entrance to Jay has actually got some attention recently -- they've installed a lighted T indication on the last signal before the station seemingly to encourage folks to enter on ST (b/c of signal age, that area doesn't have the lighted numbers typical of ST elsewhere).

Beyond that, though, Fulton and 8th express (59-Canal portion) are not capacity critical segments, so their timers are generally speaking a slightly secondary priority. 

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18 hours ago, brakethrow said:

What is the point of those timers on the n/b (A) express tracks near Ralph Ave ? Trains gain some decent speed on that grade before timers slow em. 

Those timers are there to prevent overruns at Utica Avenue. However, there are plenty of other stations along the (A) where overruns are more probable, but¬†aren't¬†preceded by timers coming into them. The northbound platform at 181st Street is an example, so as 42nd Street‚ÄďPort Authority Bus Terminal¬†southbound. If you have an experienced T/O who knows them well, you can fly into those stations like a bat out of hell. There's this T/O on the (A) that operates with little fear of timers. I've noticed him doing that trip to Far Rockaway‚ÄďMott Avenue in the PM rush hour on¬†a set of R32s. The guy pulled into 42nd Street‚ÄďPort Authority Bus Terminal close to¬†50 MPH, shutting off the controller the second he entered the station, pulling a full brake, and managed to make the 10-car stop marker on only 1 adjusted braking application.

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Those ‚Äúvideo surveillance‚ÄĚ stickers are appearing quickly on every subway car. (As far, I‚Äôve seen. Jamaica‚Äôs and East New York‚Äôs cars¬†with them).¬†They‚Äôre placed adjacent to the cab windows.¬†

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35 minutes ago, Calvin said:

What is mean by reducing dwell time? Is it how there's more room on cars like the R160 than the R46?

IIRC, dwell time is the amount of time a train spend in a station. Reducing dwell time is important to keeping trains running on time. It is usually lengthened when people hold the doors open, preventing it from leaving.

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1 hour ago, Cabanamaner said:

IIRC, dwell time is the amount of time a train spend in a station. Reducing dwell time is important to keeping trains running on time. It is usually lengthened when people hold the doors open, preventing it from leaving.

That's basically what's being talked about. Dwell time is influenced by location and time of day in many cases. For example a Manhattan bound (E) or (J) at Sutphin Blvd on a Sunday night is a completely different dwell time than those same trains at 7:30 am on a weekday. Dwell time at transfer stations, especially during rush hours, is considerably more than non-rush hours or if no connection is being made. That's also why train crews are discouraged from making  cross platform connections during rush hours. Hope this answers the question Calvin asked. Carry on.

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Half the Cuomo scheme set was on the (M) today the other Half was on the (J) East New York added the yellow looped stanchions on those rebuilds as well. 

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A month and a half late, the Capital Program Dashboard was finally updated.

Here are  some interesting updates:

Project: T7090418

Description: Protection of Cables on the Dyre Avenue Line

Category: Traction Power

Element: Traction Power

$9 million

This project will protect negative cables on the Dyre line from theft by burying them in duct banks. Schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

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Project: T7041423

Description: Fare Control Upgrade at Sutphin Boulevard-Archer Avenue-JFK Airport on the Archer Avenue Line (SBDP)

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

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As part of a larger MTA initiative, the fare control area at Sutphin Boulevard-Archer Avenue-JFK Airport station in Queens is to be reconfigured to more easily allow luggage-bearing customers to enter/exit the NYCT station. Construction of this project is part of the MTA's small business development program. Some schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

$3 million

New York City Transit 

 

Project: T7041417

Description: Planning & Engineering Study at Sutphin Blvd-Archer Av

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

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The project will undertake a feasibility study and other planning and design efforts for improvement of the interconnection between the Sutphin Boulevard/Archer Avenue/JFK Airport subway station, located on the Archer Avenue line in Queens, and the adjacent LIRR Jamaica Stati on and JFK AirTrain facilities. Improvements to be considered include the addition of elevator/escalator vertical circulation capacity, replacement/upgrade of some station finishes, and system enhancements. Schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

$7 million

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42nd Street Shuttle work will start in December

ADA UPDATE:

Now the whole complex will be ADA accessible

Project: T7041330

Description: ADA Accessibility at 14 Street - 6 Avenue / 7 Avenue Station Complex - Design Only

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

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This project will provide design funding to make this station comp lex fully accessible per the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act. The stations included in the complex are 6th Avenue on the BMT Canarsie Line, 14th Street on the IND 6th Avenue Line, and 14th S treet on the IRT Broadway-7th Avenue Line, in the borough of Manhattan. Some schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

Design Start 6/18 Finish 7/19

This was hinted at but is now explicit:

Project: T7041332

Description: ADA / Station Capacity Enhancements at 170 Street Station on the Jerome Line

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

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This project will assess the feasibility of select passenger capac ity and accessibility improvements at 170 Street Station on the Jerome Avenue Line in the borough of the Bronx. Some schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

Project: T7041327

Description: ADA Accessibility and Station Improvements at Westchester Square Station on the Pelham Line

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

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This project will provide full ADA (Americans with Disabilities Ac t) accessibility at the Westchester Square Station on the Pelham Line in the borough of the Bronx. The project will also repair select elements within the station, including the repair of structural deficiencie s, and improvements to architectural treatments. Schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

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1 hour ago, Union Tpke said:

42nd Street Shuttle work will start in December

ADA UPDATE:

Now the whole complex will be ADA accessible

Project: T7041330

Description: ADA Accessibility at 14 Street - 6 Avenue / 7 Avenue Station Complex - Design Only

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

xxxxxxxxxx

...

This project will provide design funding to make this station comp lex fully accessible per the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act. The stations included in the complex are 6th Avenue on the BMT Canarsie Line, 14th Street on the IND 6th Avenue Line, and 14th S treet on the IRT Broadway-7th Avenue Line, in the borough of Manhattan. Some schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

Design Start 6/18 Finish 7/19

This was hinted at but is now explicit:

Project: T7041332

Description: ADA / Station Capacity Enhancements at 170 Street Station on the Jerome Line

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

xxxxxxxxxx

...

This project will assess the feasibility of select passenger capac ity and accessibility improvements at 170 Street Station on the Jerome Avenue Line in the borough of the Bronx. Some schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

Project: T7041327

Description: ADA Accessibility and Station Improvements at Westchester Square Station on the Pelham Line

Category: Passenger Stations

Element: Passenger Stations

xxxxxxxxxx

...

This project will provide full ADA (Americans with Disabilities Ac t) accessibility at the Westchester Square Station on the Pelham Line in the borough of the Bronx. The project will also repair select elements within the station, including the repair of structural deficiencie s, and improvements to architectural treatments. Schedule dates are not available, due to project being under development.

42nd St work, by that you mean tearing out Track 3?

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On 11/14/2018 at 9:31 PM, Trainmaster5 said:

That's basically what's being talked about. Dwell time is influenced by location and time of day in many cases. For example a Manhattan bound (E) or (J) at Sutphin Blvd on a Sunday night is a completely different dwell time than those same trains at 7:30 am on a weekday. Dwell time at transfer stations, especially during rush hours, is considerably more than non-rush hours or if no connection is being made. That's also why train crews are discouraged from making  cross platform connections during rush hours. Hope this answers the question Calvin asked. Carry on.

It's also often self-inflicted. I’m on a (Q) and at Church Avenue (3:16 PM), it stalls for 5 minutes to let a (B) catch up. At Parkside Avenue (3:22 PM), it stalls for another 3 minutes as it waits for the (B) up ahead to clear the area. The next (Q) is scheduled to arrive in just 3 minutes and the (Q) train ahead of mine is now 10 minutes ahead. I don't understand why the MTA sometimes cause bunching of trains deliberately. It's counter to the party line that tells the public it's the fault of signals, mechanical malfunctions, sick passengers, and door holding. And now at DeKalb Avenue (3:34 PM), there is a 96 Street-bound (Q) via Sea Beach plowing through the station while we are held again.

Unlike the conductors and train operators who are paid to operate the trains, we don't get paid to commute on them. These dispatchers just waste everybody's time sometimes.

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