CenSin Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13751 Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) Another thing, the program now lists its self as "VIA ASTORIA" like the used to do pre-2010. That's strange. I never got the chance to hear the announcements of it in Queens, but my guess is that it would go like "This is an Astoria-Ditmars Blvd bound train via the line." Could the MTA be more redundant? The only way to get to Astoria is via Astoria. And it so happens that is via the “line” too since all trains to/from Astoria must do so using the 60 Street Tunnel and Broadway. If the train is Astoria-bound, it doesn’t need to mention “via Astoria” or “via the .” Edited October 9, 2016 by CenSin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13752 Posted October 9, 2016 The last I saw the had Astoria LCL, not via Astoria. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13753 Posted October 9, 2016 I realized that. The has to be the only line that never really got the chance to use R160's, because its program is so out of date. Another thing, the program now lists its self as "VIA ASTORIA" like the used to do pre-2010. That's strange. I never got the chance to hear the announcements of it in Queens, but my guess is that it would go like "This is an Astoria-Ditmars Blvd bound train via the line." One more thing, the now lists itself as "VIA SEA BEACH LCL" when it's started from Kings Highway. I don't know why it was changed, but my guess is that they did it before the Sea Beac rehab happened Do you have proof that they changed it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13754 Posted October 9, 2016 Another thing, the program now lists its self as "VIA ASTORIA" like the used to do pre-2010. That's strange. I never got the chance to hear the announcements of it in Queens, but my guess is that it would go like "This is an Astoria-Ditmars Blvd bound train via the line." One more thing, the now lists itself as "VIA SEA BEACH LCL" when it's started from Kings Highway. I don't know why it was changed, but my guess is that they did it before the Sea Beac rehab happened Where'd you find this out? That's just bizarre... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13755 Posted October 9, 2016 Where'd you find this out? That's just bizarre... Well when the whole "conquestor" thing was happening, I was coming from Jamaica when I noticed a R160 train at Parsons Blvd (Code Break of course). I got off and read the exterior signs and that's when I noticed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13756 Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) Well when the whole "conquestor" thing was happening, I was coming from Jamaica when I noticed a R160 train at Parsons Blvd (Code Break of course). I got off and read the exterior signs and that's when I noticed. Picture? I'm sorry I really don't believe you in this one because it doesn't make sense at all and why post it now if the "conquestor" thing was last year and 2014? Edited October 9, 2016 by Daniel The Cool 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13757 Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) Picture? I'm sorry I really don't believe you in this one because it doesn't make sense at all and why post it now if the "conquestor" thing was last year and 2014? That actually sounds plausible. Until recently, we haven't had a big discussion on the forums about R160 signage, and now that the topic has come up, he mentioned it. EDIT: He also said: "I never got the chance to hear the announcements of it in Queens" Edited October 9, 2016 by Around the Horn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13758 Posted October 9, 2016 I didn't think you guys would actually be interested, and btw, not everyone is going to have a chance at taking a picture of something. I, being the idiot I already am, forgot my charger that day and my phone died right as I was at the turnstile at 179th. Keep your eye out for the layups at Parsons, maybe a T/O on here or somewhere else will leave it signed up as a . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13759 Posted October 9, 2016 That actually sounds plausible. Until recently, we haven't had a big discussion on the forums about R160 signage, and now that the topic has come up, he mentioned it. EDIT: He also said: "I never got the chance to hear the announcements of it in Queens" Maybe but don't get your hopes up too much. The last I saw before the budget cuts the had Broadway Lcl and Astoria Lcl, not via Astoria. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13760 Posted October 9, 2016 Maybe but don't get your hopes up too much. The last I saw before the budget cuts the had Broadway Lcl and Astoria Lcl, not via Astoria. Which, again, was 6 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13761 Posted October 9, 2016 I recently saw a R160 on layup at Astoria Blvd, which was signed up as a to Canal Street. The sign says: Astoria LCL Broadway LCL Canal St I think the codes were updated with every AAS update, since there was always the possibility of the line returning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13762 Posted October 9, 2016 Anyone know if there is a to Forest Hills-71 program from Canarsie? Yes, there is: |FOREST HILLS-71 |CANARSIE LCL |6 AV LCL/53 ST If I'm not mistaken, the has a lot of reroute options in the automated announcement system, including destinations for Broadway Junction (via Jamaica), Canarsie, Jamaica Center (both levels) and 179 Street. To respond to the question of whether the via the recording exists or at least did so at some point, yes it does/did. One of MrRailFan's videos on YouTube has such a recording. At some point following the discontinuation of service, the destination recording was changed to "via the line" for all the relevant announcements. No, I don't know why it was changed; it could've been a test of the software, or it could've simply been a coder error with that particular announcement used on the wrong end of the line. Instead of being used at Coney Island through Court St, where it would make more sense, it was coded for the northern end of the line. Of course, this is all speculation. It's not surprising the announcements have since been changed to the "correct" versions. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13763 Posted October 9, 2016 @MTA Bus, hmm. The last time I saw it it was signed up as a to Astoria, maybe that's why, I don't know. @Lance, I knew I heard that announcment somewhere. Your right. It was either a coding error or they left it like that in case of an emergency (like if another hurricane happened and destroyed the switch in Astoria or something) they could bring it back temporarily. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13764 Posted October 9, 2016 To add on to the craziness, the reason why those reroutes exist is because when they merged the and the programs, that opened up a can of worms in terms of reroutes. Oddly enough, the no longer says "This is a Middle Village bound train via the line." It now says "This is a Metropolitan Av bound local train." Which proves my point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13765 Posted October 9, 2016 Exactly. They wouldn't have rerouted an in service to Nassau just like that. Now regarding the programs, it's odd that's the only line other then the that hasn't been updated since 2010. The crazy reroutes (that I like to call it, i.e the D to Far Rockaway) have all the updated transfers and what not. The on the other hand does still have the updated transfers from 2015 and so forth, but the TV screen still lists it as the 6 Av Local and Queens Blvd Local. It's also odd that in Queens you see the transfer as well on Queens Blvd lol. Going back to this Transfers are done separately via clock so they are alwasy up to date. That's why at at night you get different Xfer announcements, it's not a special night program, its just the transfers that are available during night @ specific station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 9, 2016 Share #13766 Posted October 9, 2016 I know. I asked one of my T/O freinds if he could do me a favor and set his train to a when he goes on a deadhead from Forest Hills to Parsons, and he said he would so I'm going to keep my fingers crossed. But, me knowing the programs on the 160, the announcments are probably going to include the along QBL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13767 Posted October 10, 2016 Wasn't the 2010 service change plan to eliminate the and put the in its place at first? Sent from my iPad using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13768 Posted October 10, 2016 did they delete the V train program? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13769 Posted October 10, 2016 Wasn't the 2010 service change plan to eliminate the and put the in its place at first? Sent from my iPad using NYC Transit Forums mobile app I believe that was going to be in 2008 and then got pushed back to 2010, when they decided to keep the designation. did they delete the V train program? No its still there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13770 Posted October 10, 2016 It's still there, but it knows that the is also running in the same place except for 2nd Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13771 Posted October 10, 2016 I believe that was going to be in 2008 and then got pushed back to 2010, when they decided to keep the designation. No its still there. The and merge wasn't thought of in 2008. The original cuts was supposed to be eliminating the and . The Brown was originally supposed to have Weekend service extended to Chambers Street beginning in Late 2009 but that ended up getting canceled 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13772 Posted October 10, 2016 The and merge wasn't thought of in 2008. The original cuts was supposed to be eliminating the and . The Brown was originally supposed to have Weekend service extended to Chambers Street beginning in Late 2009 but that ended up getting canceled Ah okay, thanks for correcting me. But there was a point when they considered cutting the and extending the , right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13773 Posted October 10, 2016 Ah okay, thanks for correcting me. But there was a point when they considered cutting the and extending the , right? I believe there was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13774 Posted October 10, 2016 But there was a point when they considered cutting the and extending the , right? Yep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 10, 2016 Share #13775 Posted October 10, 2016 Going back to this Transfers are done separately via clock so they are alwasy up to date. That's why at at night you get different Xfer announcements, it's not a special night program, its just the transfers that are available during night @ specific station. A slight correction: the conductor/operator can also manually choose the time of day/day of the week when selecting a route. That's why you'll sometimes hear late night transfers on a rush hour train despite the clocks showing the correct time. Also, some routes do not have any transfers depending on time of day. For instance, pulling up the from Dyre Av to anywhere besides E 180 Street will yield no transfers except to the at E 180 Street. Whoever handled the coding figured such would be a waste since the doesn't usually run beyond the shuttle service during the overnight hours. Wasn't the 2010 service change plan to eliminate the and put the in its place at first? Sent from my iPad using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Yes. Riders along the line fought for the retention over the conversion to service. The designation for the has been around officially since 1967 while the was introduced in 2001. These people felt there was more history behind the designation. did they delete the V train program? Neither the nor route options were deleted from the automated announcement system. Unlike the 142s with their limited computer space, the 160s were not starving for space and did not need a data dump. At least I hope they have more storage space, what with them being five years younger than the 142s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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