Lex Posted July 5, 2019 Share #21651 Posted July 5, 2019 We need the shuttle platforms (Franklin Avenue Shuttle, save for Prospect Park) to be around 100 feet longer. After all, those R68/As will eventually be retired, and it wouldn't be wise to get more 75-foot cars just for that (or anything, really). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 5, 2019 Share #21652 Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) It seems that 1910 has the rollsigns removed but the LED is in place passing by Times Sq Edited July 5, 2019 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 5, 2019 Share #21653 Posted July 5, 2019 Tagged NTT has become an common sight at ENY yard, seems like I see at least one tagged set a week at ENY. I think they are getting tagged at Bowery layup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted July 6, 2019 Share #21654 Posted July 6, 2019 4 hours ago, trainfan22 said: Tagged NTT has become an common sight at ENY yard, seems like I see at least one tagged set a week at ENY. I think they are getting tagged at Bowery layup. There’s an R160 tagged up every day. I kept telling them not to lay those trains up there but their response is, “where else can we put them?” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whz1995 Posted July 6, 2019 Share #21655 Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, VIP said: There’s an R160 tagged up every day. I kept telling them not to lay those trains up there but their response is, “where else can we put them?” They also lay up NTT cars at 111st st station at night. Hopefully those ENY NTT cars will be deep-cleaned soon. The JAM NTT cars look amazingly good and shiny after being deep-cleaned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted July 6, 2019 Share #21656 Posted July 6, 2019 5 hours ago, VIP said: There’s an R160 tagged up every day. I kept telling them not to lay those trains up there but their response is, “where else can we put them?” They are going to have to figure something out because that is more money the has to spend to clean those cars. Those cars get tagged up badly and sometimes even on the inside. I’m quite surprised Jamaica’s R160s don’t get tagged up like that because they are layed up in the tunnels and stations between Forest Hills and 179th Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 6, 2019 Share #21657 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) All mainline IRT lines are on hold at this time. Every line is not moving except the CBTC 7 line. Edited July 6, 2019 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 6, 2019 Share #21658 Posted July 6, 2019 The has a guy I never heard before doing the "transfer is available to the train by walking to Juilus St and using your MetroCard" announcement. Sounds like a Black guy with a deep voice. And no, it's not the C/R doing an manual announcement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted July 6, 2019 Share #21659 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) MTA sensibilities: 3 trains pass through DeKalb Avenue, but only 1 . At 36 Street, supervision sends that last ahead of the . Now we’re waiting to enter Bay 50 Street because there are 3 trains up ahead. And there’s also another behind us. It doesn’t matter for inbound trains, but I can see this causing a shortage of trains at Coney Island. They will have no trains to send out as the trains clog up the tracks to the terminal. Edited July 6, 2019 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted July 7, 2019 Share #21660 Posted July 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, CenSin said: MTA sensibilities: 3 trains pass through DeKalb Avenue, but only 1 . At 36 Street, supervision sends that last ahead of the . Now we’re waiting to enter Bay 50 Street because there are 3 trains up ahead. And there’s also another behind us. It doesn’t matter for inbound trains, but I can see this causing a shortage of trains at Coney Island. They will have no trains to send out as the trains clog up the tracks to the terminal. Aren't trains ending at the platform at Coney Island or all they all at the platform? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted July 7, 2019 Share #21661 Posted July 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Aren't trains ending at the platform at Coney Island or all they all at the platform? They all share a pair of tracks on the West End. if there are 3 trains up ahead, the cannot reach tracks 1 nor 2 until the 3 trains all enter the terminal. Those trains cannot enter the terminal until tracks 7 and/or 8 are clear. So while the trains wait, the trains behind also must wait even if tracks 1 and 2 are empty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q23 via 108 Posted July 7, 2019 Share #21662 Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) As you all know. The R44s were prematurely canned due to structural damage (specifically frame rot and rust). But... let's just play "what if" and said that the R44s were built Stainless Steel, which would eliminate the structural problems that they went through. So my question is, how do you think the R44s would be performing in 2019? Would they be falling apart or would they be holding up. I assume that at 2019, they would probably run on the and Rockaway Park while the can alternate between R46 and R179. And once the R179s are delivered and all the teething issues are fixed, then the R44s would start being scrapped. Another possibility is that the R44s could have been used on the considering that it's not that long a route? Its interesting to think of how this decade could have been had the R44s not retire. There wouldn't have been R32s on the . No R32 shuttles in the Rockaways. The end of 60ft SMEEs, little to no fleet shortage, and possibly a full length by now. Point is the 2010s could have been real different depending on the availability of the R44s. Had the 44s been around today, they would have been close to 50 years. They probably wouldn't have made it to 50, but I could have probably envisioned the R44s retiring around 2016-2018ish. What do you guys think? Were the R44s doomed anyway by the start of the 2010s? Or could they have held up perhaps 6~8 more years in Revenue Service (assuming no structural damage). Edited July 7, 2019 by Q23 via 108 G 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 7, 2019 Share #21663 Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Q23 via 108 said: As you all know. The R44s were prematurely canned due to structural damage (specifically frame rot and rust). But... let's just play "what if" and said that the R44s were built Stainless Steel, which would eliminate the structural problems that they went through. So my question is, how do you think the R44s would be performing in 2019? Would they be falling apart or would they be holding up. I assume that at 2019, they would probably run on the and Rockaway Park while the can alternate between R46 and R179. And once the R179s are delivered and all the teething issues are fixed, then the R44s would start being scrapped. Another possibility is that the R44s could have used on the ? Its interesting to think of how this decade could have been had the R44s not retire. There wouldn't have been R32s on the . No R32 shuttles in the Rockaways. The end of 60ft SMEEs, little to no fleet shortage, and possibly a full length by now. Point is the 2010s could have been real different depending on the availability of the R44s. Had the 44s been around today, they would have been close to 50 years. They probably wouldn't have made it to 50, but I could have probably envisioned the R44s retiring around 2016-2018ish. What do you guys think? Were the R44s doomed anyway by the start of the 2010s? Or could they have held up perhaps 6~8 more years in Revenue Service (assuming no structural damage). The 44s were in good shape mechanically at the time of their retirement, so they would have been fine running today. Edited July 7, 2019 by trainfan22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 7, 2019 Share #21664 Posted July 7, 2019 How's the R44 in S.I different from the ones NYCT have? Also, I may be wrong at this but there are still at least 2 R44s that are at C.I Yard but for unknown reasons 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 7, 2019 Share #21665 Posted July 7, 2019 4 hours ago, trainfan22 said: The has a guy I never heard before doing the "transfer is available to the train by walking to Juilus St and using your MetroCard" announcement. Sounds like a Black guy with a deep voice. And no, it's not the C/R doing an manual announcement. I wonder if it's the same guy they got to re-do the "Bus Operators are protected by NYS law..." announcement on the buses... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q23 via 108 Posted July 7, 2019 Share #21666 Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Calvin said: How's the R44 in S.I different from the ones NYCT have? Also, I may be wrong at this but there are still at least 2 R44s that are at C.I Yard but for unknown reasons I don't know for sure, but I do know that the NYCT ones had a harder life the SIRT. The R44s were on the longest and most used lines (. ,,, in the old days) Meanwhile staten island hasn't taken as much of a beating when compared to the city's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21667 Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Calvin said: How's the R44 in S.I different from the ones NYCT have? Also, I may be wrong at this but there are still at least 2 R44s that are at C.I Yard but for unknown reasons The R44's in SI have different propulsion systems, and sound nothing like the NYCT 44s even though they are supposedly the same car. The SI 44's don't have that PSSSSHHHHH brake release sound that the NYCT 44s were known for. Also I think the SI R44s still have field shunting, as they accelerate far faster than any of the remaining SMEEs running on NYCT. Edited July 8, 2019 by trainfan22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21668 Posted July 8, 2019 Hi all, Soon, I will have to be commuting from northern Roosevelt Island to the Columbus Circle area. I was wondering what the best route is. I also posted this in the Bus topic. Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21669 Posted July 8, 2019 When will the R62/As be replaced with the R262s? Also, are the R62s going to get replaces with R142/As then R262s, or R62s to R262s with no R142s. also, is the the only train to run the R62s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21670 Posted July 8, 2019 59 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: The R44's in SI have different propulsion systems, and sound nothing like the NYCT 44s even though they are supposedly the same car. The SI 44's don't have that PSSSSHHHHH brake release sound that the NYCT 44s were known for. Also I think the SI R44s still have field shunting, as they accelerate far faster than any of the remaining SMEEs running on NYCT. If that's the case then they wouldnt be compatible with the transferred NYCT sets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21671 Posted July 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: Hi all, Soon, I will have to be commuting from northern Roosevelt Island to the Columbus Circle area. I was wondering what the best route is. I also posted this in the Bus topic. Thanks! I think the Q102 to the to the ( if you don’t feel like walking from 57th St on the ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21672 Posted July 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: When will the R62/As be replaced with the R262s? Also, are the R62s going to get replaces with R142/As then R262s, or R62s to R262s with no R142s. also, is the the only train to run the R62s? Correct me if I’m wrong , I think the uses the 62s and the uses the 62As 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21673 Posted July 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said: Correct me if I’m wrong , I think the uses the 62s and the uses the 62As Of the 315 remaining R62s, 10 R62s are assigned to the , supplementing the lines fleet of 350 R62As for a total of 360 cars (36 trains). The other 305 R62s are for service (30.5 trains) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q23 via 108 Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21674 Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: When will the R62/As be replaced with the R262s? Also, are the R62s going to get replaces with R142/As then R262s, or R62s to R262s with no R142s. also, is the the only train to run the R62s? The R262s will probably come out in the mid to late 2020s. We don't even have all of the R179s and we are months away from 2020, so no time soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted July 8, 2019 Share #21675 Posted July 8, 2019 Sorry, i meant R62As. Yes the runs 62s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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