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[Maxwell179]

My  this morning went express from Alabama to Jamaica Center , only stopping at Crescent , Woodhaven and Sutphin Blvd , has that ever happened before ?

Edited September 18, 2019 by Maxwell179

[Q23 via 108]

33 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said:

My  this morning went express from Alabama to Jamaica Center , only stopping at Crescent , Woodhaven and Sutphin Blvd , has that ever happened before ?

Probably a Battery Run

[CenSin]

12 minutes ago, Q23 via 108 said:

Probably a Battery Run

That’s not called a “battery run.”

[Maxwell179]

58 minutes ago, CenSin said:

That’s not called a “battery run.”

What’s a battery run

[CenSin]

4 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said:

What’s a battery run

Well, I’m glad you asked.

On 3/3/2017 at 1:12 AM, Snowblock said:

A battery run is a sequence of trains leaving the terminal after a long delay for crowd control. Like if there was a long delay in northbound service up to 207 followed by a conga line of trains coming up, the first one would run non-stop to 125, the second one leave right behind it and run non-stop to 168, and the third make regular stops. That term gets constantly misused on the message boards - a battery run is a SEQUENCE of trains, a skip or run is when a SINGLE train bypasses stops to make up time.

 

Also, we DO run skips between 168 and 207 when needed.

[Maxwell179]

3 minutes ago, CenSin said:

Well, I’m glad you asked.

thank you 

[S78 via Hylan]

2 hours ago, Maxwell179 said:

My  this morning went express from Alabama to Jamaica Center , only stopping at Crescent , Woodhaven and Sutphin Blvd , has that ever happened before ?

It’s happened a few times when I lived on the .

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

6 hours ago, Maxwell179 said:

My  this morning went express from Alabama to Jamaica Center , only stopping at Crescent , Woodhaven and Sutphin Blvd , has that ever happened before ?

As someone who lives on the  line and rides it almost everyday, that does happen. It usually happens when the  is full entering Broadway Junction while the platform on that station itself is full up to the point you're forced to wait on top of the stairs if you're unlucky.

 

5 hours ago, Q23 via 108 said:

Probably a Battery Run

I don't think it's a battery run per the definition. Usually it's only 1  that makes express stops, the the second making all stops as I've noticed a couple of times on the line (unless the delays were a LOT worse).

[Union Tpke]

@Lance Do you have any idea why this domain exists? https://east.mta-hq.info

[Axis]

Any particular reason why departures out of Far Rockaway on the are 8:07 PM then 8:34 PM tonight? Just couldn’t be assed to have something in between?

[Italianstallion]

15 hours ago, Axis said:

Any particular reason why departures out of Far Rockaway on the are 8:07 PM then 8:34 PM tonight? Just couldn’t be assed to have something in between?

They're scheduled at 8:12 and 8:32. Looks like the first one left 5 minutes early for some reason.

[CenSin]

Where did the full subway maps go on the website, by the way? I can’t find the PDFs. The full ones have the station names, routes, and accessibility marker by each dot. The late night map still has them, but not the regular map.

[Axis]

2 hours ago, Italianstallion said:

They're scheduled at 8:12 and 8:32. Looks like the first one left 5 minutes early for some reason.

Wrong. 8:07, 8:25, 8:42. 

[CenSin]

4 hours ago, CenSin said:

Where did the full subway maps go on the website, by the way? I can’t find the PDFs. The full ones have the station names, routes, and accessibility marker by each dot. The late night map still has them, but not the regular map.

Well, I found it here: https://new.mta.info/sites/default/files/2019-04/subway_map_web.pdf

Did they maybe update the website this afternoon when I was not looking? 😐

[Jova42R]

I was just on the , and in the tunnel between 103 and 110, I saw an R142A on the southbound track. Are R142As coming to the ? Or was it a  that for some reason was running on the  line? What is it?

[paulrivera]

4 hours ago, Axis said:

Wrong. 8:07, 8:25, 8:42. 

I see 8:07, 8:24+, 8:41+, and 8:57+ for this evening.

Merely semantics.

Edited September 19, 2019 by paulrivera

[Abba]

4 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

I was just on the , and in the tunnel between 103 and 110, I saw an R142A on the southbound track. Are R142As coming to the ? Or was it a  that for some reason was running on the  line? What is it?

There was a stalled train at 110st that rerouted  and  trains on the  line 

[Lex]

14 minutes ago, Abba said:

There was a stalled train at 110st that rerouted  and  trains on the  line 

Thing is, if we're talking about R142As, that doesn't make any sense (unless the  was borrowing from Jerome, for whatever inane reason).

[trainfan22]

If it was an 142A then it was probably going to or from 207th street shop for work..

Edited September 19, 2019 by trainfan22

[Jemorie]

On 9/18/2019 at 8:32 PM, Axis said:

Any particular reason why departures out of Far Rockaway on the are 8:07 PM then 8:34 PM tonight? Just couldn’t be assed to have something in between?

 

9 hours ago, Italianstallion said:

They're scheduled at 8:12 and 8:32. Looks like the first one left 5 minutes early for some reason.

 

7 hours ago, Axis said:

Wrong. 8:07, 8:25, 8:42. 

 

2 hours ago, paulrivera said:

I see 8:07, 8:24+, 8:41+, and 8:57+ for this evening.

Merely semantics.

I swear, this is one of the many things I personally don't like about the . The  has a pretty sloppy ass schedule when it comes to departing from both Far Rockaway and Lefferts Boulevard respectively northbound at certain times of the day, especially in the evenings after 8 p.m. I know scheduling is not easy and all, but if the  runs every 10 minutes (6 tph) west of Rockaway Boulevard, then the minimum wait east of Rockaway Boulevard should be 20 minutes (3 tph) on both branches. Instead, we get 25-30+ minute waits. After 8:58 p.m., the wait is 23 minutes until 9:21 p.m. Then a 25 minute wait until 9:46 p.m. 9 minutes later at 9:55, the train is designated for Euclid Avenue and the next train to Inwood doesn't depart from Far Rockaway until 10:12 p.m. Next train doesn't leave until 24 minutes later at 10:36, then up till midnight, trains are generally leaving the terminal at half-hour headways. Same goes for Lefferts Boulevard too.

What the hell...

[NewFlyer 230]

14 hours ago, Jemorie said:

 

 

 

I swear, this is one of the many things I personally don't like about the . The  has a pretty sloppy ass schedule when it comes to departing from both Far Rockaway and Lefferts Boulevard respectively northbound at certain times of the day, especially in the evenings after 8 p.m. I know scheduling is not easy and all, but if the  runs every 10 minutes (6 tph) west of Rockaway Boulevard, then the minimum wait east of Rockaway Boulevard should be 20 minutes (3 tph) on both branches. Instead, we get 25-30+ minute waits. After 8:58 p.m., the wait is 23 minutes until 9:21 p.m. Then a 25 minute wait until 9:46 p.m. 9 minutes later at 9:55, the train is designated for Euclid Avenue and the next train to Inwood doesn't depart from Far Rockaway until 10:12 p.m. Next train doesn't leave until 24 minutes later at 10:36, then up till midnight, trains are generally leaving the terminal at half-hour headways. Same goes for Lefferts Boulevard too.

What the hell...

Why can’t the  get extended to Lefferts Blvd during that time In the evening to maintain decent headway’s for each branch. Merging shouldn’t be too much of a problem than it would be if you were to have the   running to Lefferts during rush hour. The only issue I see is the  and it’s bunching. 

Edited September 20, 2019 by NewFlyer 230

[Jemorie]

8 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Why can’t the  get extended to Lefferts Blvd during that time In the evening to maintain decent headway’s for each branch. Merging shouldn’t be too much of a problem than it would be if you were to have the   running to Lefferts during rush hour. The only issue I see is the  and it’s bunching. 

No....

The  just needs to be rescheduled. That is it. So that headways are not longer than 20 minutes east of Rockaway Blvd. If the  is on 30 minute headways on both branches, then the headways west of Rockaway Blvd is 15 minutes. That's not good.

[Cabanamaner]

8 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Why can’t the  get extended to Lefferts Blvd during that time In the evening to maintain decent headway’s for each branch. Merging shouldn’t be too much of a problem than it would be if you were to have the   running to Lefferts during rush hour. The only issue I see is the  and it’s bunching. 

I swear, there has to be a law on these forums that the C to Lefferts idea MUST be brought up every 2 weeks or so. No matter how many times it gets disproven, explained, or argued against, we always end up here. 

[JeremiahC99]

1 hour ago, Cabanamaner said:

I swear, there has to be a law on these forums that the C to Lefferts idea MUST be brought up every 2 weeks or so. No matter how many times it gets disproven, explained, or argued against, we always end up here. 

I actually proposed a  to Lefferts as well in the proposals thread. The difference with my plan is that while the  would still go to Lefferts, it would now do so as an express. With new construction, local service on Fulton would be replaced by a rerouted , which would operate between Astoria and Euclid Avenue (Lefferts Blvd late nights) on an increased frequency (15 trains per hour). Discontinued segments of the  would be replaced by other services. This proposal would allow for an increase in service on all tracks on the Fulton Street Line (15 on the local track and 25 on the express (15  and 10  trains)).

Originally I proposed the  go to Rockaway Park and the  go to both Lefferts and Far Rockaway. This was dropped because even with the express , scheduling issues would occur. This was changed to having the  to Lefferts and the  split into 7.5  trains to Far Rockaway and 7.5  trains to Rockaway Park, and then changed to my current plan to all  trains to Lefferts and all  trains to Far Rockaway, along with a modified  Shuttle service, which would run between Rockaway Park and Broad Channel at all times except late nights, when service is extended to Euclid Avenue to reduce wait times. There would be an increase in headway’s on shuttle trains, and enhancements to Q53 bus service to make up the loss of  trains to Rockaway Park (though I may still have some ’s to Rockaway Park. I just got lazy and didn’t add it in to the map).

[Jemorie]

Ugh, guys really. Once again, the issue is not lack of  service to and from Lefferts Blvd. I don't know how the hell that came into this conversation to be honest. The issue is the  transiting from its evening 10-minute headway to its early overnight 15-minute headway once the  stops running, resulting in half-hour headways on both branches instead of 20-minute headways. I looked at the printed schedule for the line more and more carefully. By midnight, headways on both branches head back to 20 minutes with the Lefferts Blvd Shuttle beginning its run.

The full  should be running every 20 minutes on the entire line (Far Rockaway-Inwood) along with the Lefferts Blvd Shuttle so that neither branches are getting service every half an hour just for a short period of time.