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Anyway, just for shits & giggles, I'll answer that survey:

(hopefully the spoiler tag works)

 

SUBWAY

Before the pandemic, how often did you use the subway? One or two days per week (as of this calendar year)

Your subway use before the pandemic began in NYC

Before the pandemic, which subway lines did you use during a typical week? (2)or the (Q)

Before the pandemic, when did you use the subway? PM & Evening hrs

Before the pandemic, why did you use the subway? Recreation or entertainment

When the Governor lifts the stay-at-home order in NYC, how often do you think you will use the subway?  Less than one day per week

Your subway use after the pandemic began in NYC

According to your responses, you will be using the subway less often after the pandemic than you did before it. How do you plan to make the trips for which you will no longer be using the subway? This assumes that I would make those same trips....

Why will you be making fewer trips? Don't really need the subway right now....

What is the closest subway station to your home? Church av (2)(5)

Since the pandemic began in NYC, have you used any alternative modes for trips you usually make by subway? [Personal car, truck, van or motorcycle owned by you or a member of your household] or the [Bus]

Since the pandemic began in NYC, how often have you used the subway? Less than one day per week

Using the subway in the future 

What factors might influence your decision to use the subway again? Other (please specify): What is it with these f^*king assumptions :lol:

How concerned are you about the cleanliness of trains when you go back to using the subway? Not concerned

How concerned are you about the cleanliness of stations when you go back to using the subway? Not concerned

How concerned are you about being able to keep a safe social distance on trains when you go back to using the subway? Not concerned

How concerned are you about being able to keep a safe social distance in stations when you go back to using the subway? Not concerned

Is there anything else that concerns you about your safety when using the subway in the future? If no, leave blank:  __________________________

 

BUS

Before this pandemic, how often did you use buses? Three or four days per week (as of this calendar year)

Your bus use before the pandemic began in NYC

Before the pandemic, what was the borough prefix of the buses you used during a typical week? B or BM (Brooklyn) and/or Q or QM (Queens)

Before the pandemic, which bus routes did you use during a typical week? Varied... Too many to list....

Before the pandemic, when did you use buses? Various times of the day, on weekends.... Late Afternoons-to-Evening, during the weekday

Before the pandemic, why did you use buses? [Recreation or entertainment], [Dining out] (if that's what you want to call it)

When the Governor lifts the stay-at-home order in NYC, how often do you think you will use buses? I don't know (and it has nothing to do with Covid-19 either)

Your bus use after the pandemic began in NYC

Since the pandemic began in NYC, have you used any alternative modes for trips you usually make by bus? I have not used any alternative modes (for trips made usually by bus)

Since the pandemic began in NYC, how often have you used buses? One or two days per week

Your bus experience after the pandemic began in NYC

What is the borough prefix of the buses you have been using? B or BM (Brooklyn) and/or Q or QM (Queens)

Which bus routes have you been using? Various... don't feel like compiling a list

When have you been using buses? Varies.... any of those timeframes apply

Have you changed any of the times you travel on buses to avoid crowds? No

Why have you been using buses? Non-medical essential personal errands (of these listed)

How satisfied are you with bus service? Not satisfied, but not dissatisfied (MTA will, MTA.... what are we supposed to expect)

How satisfied are you with the cleanliness of buses? Satisfied (actually)

How satisfied are you with the cleanliness of bus stops? :lol::lol::lol:

How easy has it been to maintain a safe social distance on buses? Very challenging

How easy has it been to maintain a safe social distance in bus stops? Very easy

What is the primary channel through which you receive bus service communications? Other (please specify): http://www.nyctransitforums.com

How satisfied have you been with bus service communication? Not satisfied, but not dissatisfied (take it as it comes)

In relation to your health, how safe do you feel using buses? Safe (I guess)

What makes you feel safe (or unsafe) when you travel on buses? ____________________________
You may leave this question blank, but we encourage you to share your feedback:

What can we do to help you feel safer on buses and in bus stops during this pandemic? ____________________________
You may leave this question blank, but we encourage you to share your feedback:

Using buses in the future 

How concerned are you about the cleanliness of buses when more riders begin to use buses again? A little concerned

How concerned are you about the cleanliness of bus stops when more riders begin to use buses again? Still :lol::lol::lol:

How concerned are you about being able to maintain a safe social distance on buses when more riders begin to use buses again? Really now <_<

How concerned are you about being able to maintain a safe social distance in bus stops when more riders begin to use buses again? Not concerned

Is there anything else that concerns you about your safety using buses when more riders begin to use buses again? If no, leave blank: ___________

 

Your Work

What is your current employment status? Unemployed (thanks to this shit)

Which of the following best describes your current occupation? Well deserved vacationer by proxy.

 

Future opportunities

Would you like to be entered into the drawing to win one of ten 30-Day Unlimited Ride MetroCards? For what? Right now, I get to ride buses for the low cost of NOTHING.

We occasionally conduct surveys and focus groups to get feedback on a range of transportation-related topics from our customers. May we contact you by email about future MTA surveys and focus groups? No

Please enter the email address you would like us to use to contact you. ____What part of No didn't you understand ______

 

Tell us about yourself 

Are you Hispanic or Latino? No

Which of the following best describes your race? African-American or Black

In what country were you born? United States

What is the primary language spoken in your home? English

How well do you speak English? Very well

What was your household income in 2019? $50,000 to $99,999 (damn this range is broad as hell)

Including you, how many adults live in your household? 1

How many cars, trucks, vans or motorcycles are owned (or leased) by you and members of your household? 1

What is your age? 30 to 39

What is your gender? Male

What is your zip code? Double one two oh three

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FINALLY the dam spoiler tag worked !
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1 hour ago, GojiMet86 said:

Point being, I don't know how many people have received it, and it might not be available on the MTA site, so I have made it public.

I received the survey by email this past Saturday and filled it out right away. I must say I was rather surprised to get a random email from the MTA regarding the survey, but I still went ahead and filled it out. And thank you for posting it. 

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When the R62As and R68/As were linked up in the late 90s, why did the MTA paint over the front rollsign windows on the linkbar cars (as well as the #2 end on the coupler cars)? Why did they not paint those on the R62s? (were they linkbarred from the beginning?)

@B35 via Church that was hilarious esp. your response to the reasons to ride the subway more frequently after Covid.

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1 hour ago, MeeP15-9112 said:

@B35 via Church that was hilarious esp. your response to the reasons to ride the subway more frequently after Covid.

My personal favorite (question) was the one about social distancing when more people start taking buses again.... Most of the buses I've been taking since this thing popped off have been SRO.... So in terms of social distancing, what the hell would improve in that regard, when more people start riding buses!?!??

The 2 questions about bus stops were pretty good too... I have been definitely seeing more homeless people staking out at bus shelters & for the stops that don't have shelters, they aren't anymore cleaner (as if the MTA is out there disinfecting the actual poles & cleaning up the trash blowing around, or situated at the stops themselves - DSNY be damned!)

Can't make this stuff up.

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1 hour ago, MeeP15-9112 said:

When the R62As and R68/As were linked up in the late 90s, why did the MTA paint over the front rollsign windows on the linkbar cars (as well as the #2 end on the coupler cars)? Why did they not paint those on the R62s? (were they linkbarred from the beginning?)

Because they've always had a schizophrenic approach to theses type of minor modifications. 

In the late '80s, A Division cars going through GOH kept their original number plates, while the B Division cars had theirs replaced.  In the early '90s, some Redbirds had their old drop-sash windows replaced with small louvres, but some cars kept the old ones.  Same thing with rollsign cranks in the mid '90s- some cars had them replaced with hex keys, others kept the handcranks until well into the 2000s.  The small windows on certain cars- some R32s and R38s had the louvres screwed shut, others kept them usable.  The R62As had their small windows screwed shut in the early 2000s, while the R62s didn't get those adjusted until about a decade later.

Half-assed small fix-it projects that linger in purgatory for x amount of years are par for the course with this agency....

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1 hour ago, R10 2952 said:

Because they've always had a schizophrenic approach to theses type of minor modifications. 

In the late '80s, A Division cars going through GOH kept their original number plates, while the B Division cars had theirs replaced.  In the early '90s, some Redbirds had their old drop-sash windows replaced with small louvres, but some cars kept the old ones.  Same thing with rollsign cranks in the mid '90s- some cars had them replaced with hex keys, others kept the handcranks until well into the 2000s.  The small windows on certain cars- some R32s and R38s had the louvres screwed shut, others kept them usable.  The R62As had their small windows screwed shut in the early 2000s, while the R62s didn't get those adjusted until about a decade later.

Half-assed small fix-it projects that linger in purgatory for x amount of years are par for the course with this agency....

Seems to be a similar scenario currently with the R46 lighting, pole and sign destination upgrades. A bunch of random sets received the treatment with some leftover untouched. Same with the R62As. Guessing they're not touching the R62s with this upgrade either (?).

Did hear that some R46 sets have signage hardware that is too old to upgrade, wish there was an elaboration on this. 

Edit: Also with the R160 sets that have seats removed at the end and the flip up seating. All of 11 trainsets were given the treatment and nothing since except those sets being randomly mixed with others. Although these modifications seemed to have a political influence involved (hence the "Cuomo scheme"). 

As well as with what were all of Coney's R160 sets at the time having the interior screens where the art cards are placed installed, including the "Cuomo" sets. None of the original Jamaica sets had these.

Some R143 sets received a door motor upgrade. Some. 

Also anyone notice some of the "Overhauled at our Jamaica / Coney Island Shop" stickers with the check mark logos found at the end of the Cuomo sets have one yard on the exterior and the other inside? 

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1 hour ago, 4P3607 said:

As well as with what were all of Coney's R160 sets at the time having the interior screens where the art cards are placed installed, including the "Cuomo" sets. 

Siemens 8848-8852 were overlooked and still retain their art cards. They still have them after the big swap.

 

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I haven't taken the (L) in quite a while...When i took it eairlier i notice they changed the announcement when the train reach Lorimer St...To Metropolitan-Lorimer St....I wondered when they changed that...

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Just now, biGC323232 said:

I haven't taken the (L) in quite a while...When i took it eairlier i notice they changed the announcement when the train reach Lorimer St...To Metropolitan-Lorimer St....I wondered when they changed that...

A very long time ago

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..Couldn't been that long ago...Before the tunnel shutdown it wasn't saying that...😁

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Just now, biGC323232 said:

😂..Couldn't been that long ago...Before the tunnel shutdown it wasn't saying that...

you right 😂, not a very long time but it’s been like that for a while now , I think during the tunnel shutdown is when they made the announcement change  

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Just now, Maxwell179 said:

you right , not a very long time but it’s been like that for a while now 😂

Got u...I was like wow...😁

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R68A 5096 at Jamaica Yard

Taken today from Willow Lake / at Jamaica Yard. School car I'm guessing? 

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On 5/26/2020 at 5:08 PM, Calvin said:

The (Q) seems to have a diverse of fleet from the past few weeks spotted at the Coney Island Co-Ops. Seeing at least 4 R68/As with 7 R46s and 5 R160s on the entire line. The (N) as well, from the aftermath of Jamaica Yard's fleet exchange. 

Actually, the (Q) has more r160s than the (N) line and they only r160B siemens. I think when Jamaica yard has access amount of R160s, they most likely to send some of them back to Coney Island yard on temporary basis. 

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On 5/21/2020 at 12:45 AM, Calvin said:

It arrives at the station, but doesn't do a zone change (on the local track). The doors open and close but announces to riders that "This Train is out of customer service, going to storage". It's C.I Yard bound but, the train is checked before moving. 

These trains that terminates at 59 street, they mostly get stored along the Sea beach (N) line.

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31 minutes ago, vioreen said:

Why the (1) and (3) never get the Newer Technology trains ?

Cause they don't wanna stock parts for two different fleets at Livonia and 240 St shops. 

 

Yea, in the Redbird days the (4) and (6) had a mix of Redbirds & 62s, but I think the (4) line's Redbirds & 62 had the same propulsion system and the (6) line Redbirds and the R62A have the same propulsion system.  So I assume they used the same parts. I know at one point cars were assigned to IRT shops by propulsion system, even though one shop would have multiple car fleets.

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34 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

Cause they don't wanna stock parts for two different fleets at Livonia and 240 St shops. 

 

Yea, in the Redbird days the (4) and (6) had a mix of Redbirds & 62s, but I think the (4) line's Redbirds & 62 had the same propulsion system and the (6) line Redbirds and the R62A have the same propulsion system.  So I assume they used the same parts. I know at one point cars were assigned to IRT shops by propulsion system, even though one shop would have multiple car fleets.

The R62 and R62A had more horsepower than the older equipment  115-100 IIRC and the parts were not interchangeable as far as I recall. I think you would have to check the data sheets to determine the exact difference between the classes. Carry on. 

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2 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

Yea, in the Redbird days the (4) and (6) had a mix of Redbirds & 62s, 

The weird thing is I don't even remember seeing Redbirds on the (4).  I've seen several photos of R33s on the Jerome Line in the late '90s, but I'm guessing there weren't too many of them, because whenever I took the (4) back then it was always R62s.  Another unicorn was the R62A (5) train- heard of it, never saw it...

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2 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

The R62 and R62A had more horsepower than the older equipment  115-100 IIRC and the parts were not interchangeable as far as I recall. I think you would have to check the data sheets to determine the exact difference between the classes. Carry on. 

Yea the R62/62A have more horsepower than the older IRT SMEE's. I found an data sheet for the 62s but not any of the Redbird car classes. I just assumed at least some of the parts were interchangeable cause for example the R33ML and R62 propulsion sounds the same and some of the under body equipment looks similar. Also its been said that the TA went back to tried and true technology for the R62/62A order after all the problems the R44/46 had, and I just assumed the cars that became the Redbirds got upgraded with similar technology to the 62/62A during GOH.

 

I should have added a question mark to the second sentence of my post. I know at one point (forgot the exact time period) they did assign IRT cars to shops by propulsion system, but I can't figure out if they followed this practice into the 90s.

1 minute ago, R10 2952 said:

The weird thing is I don't even remember seeing Redbirds on the (4).  I've seen several photos of R33s on the Jerome Line in the late '90s, but I'm guessing there weren't too many of them, because whenever I took the (4) back then it was always R62s.  Another unicorn was the R62A (5) train- heard of it, never saw it...

I rode Redbird (4) trains quite a few times as a kid, I got to ride them on all three Lex Ave lines and the (2)  back then, but never the (7) sadly. I eventually got to ride a redbird on the (7) but it was one of those Mets opening day specials though. I never knew that R62A (5) existed until I started posting on forums like this, prior to the R142s I only seen Redbirds on the (5)..

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1 hour ago, trainfan22 said:

Yea the R62/62A have more horsepower than the older IRT SMEE's. I found an data sheet for the 62s but not any of the Redbird car classes. I just assumed at least some of the parts were interchangeable cause for example the R33ML and R62 propulsion sounds the same and some of the under body equipment looks similar. Also its been said that the TA went back to tried and true technology for the R62/62A order after all the problems the R44/46 had, and I just assumed the cars that became the Redbirds got upgraded with similar technology to the 62/62A during GOH.

 

I should have added a question mark to the second sentence of my post. I know at one point (forgot the exact time period) they did assign IRT cars to shops by propulsion system, but I can't figure out if they followed this practice into the 90s.

I rode Redbird (4) trains quite a few times as a kid, I got to ride them on all three Lex Ave lines and the (2)  back then, but never the (7) sadly. I eventually got to ride a redbird on the (7) but it was one of those Mets opening day specials though. I never knew that R62A (5) existed until I started posting on forums like this, prior to the R142s I only seen Redbirds on the (5)..

My friend would bring that R62A (5) down to Livonia yard daily and my C/R and I would bring it back north to Dyre every afternoon.  R62A equipment was cut and used by the Dyre shuttle service on the midnight tour. It was actually a Pelham train that was loaned to the (5) specifically for the shuttle. At one time there was a (6) crew that made a trip down to Brooklyn Bridge and made a return trip back to Dyre as a (5) . That's how the equipment was swapped out every night. Saved a trip for the transfer crew every night. Carry on. 

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For everyone who needs it, here you go!

REAL TIME SERVICE UPDATE!

(3) trains run between 137 St and New Lots Avenue due to track maintenance.

(3) train service is replaced by (2) trains, M7, and M102 buses in between 96 St and 148 St.

All northbound (6) trains skip Castle Hill Av, Zerega Av, Westchester Sq, Middletown Rd and Buhre Av.

(5) train service in between E 180 St and Bowling Green is replace d by (2) and (4) trains.

(4) trains are running local between 125 St and Grand Central

All northbound (7) trains skip 33 St, 40 St, 46 St, 52 St and 69 St.

(7) trains are running in 2 sections, between 34 St and Hunterspoint Av, and between Queensboro Plaza and Main St due to structural rehabilitation at Court Square

(A) trains are running local in between 145 St and 168 St.

(C) trains are not running between 145 St and 168 St

(E) trains are running local in between Queens Plaza and Roosevelt Avenue

(F) trains are running via the (E) line in between Rockefeller Center and Roosevelt Avenue

(N) trains are running local in between DeKalb Avenue and 59 St

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26 minutes ago, Bklyn Bound 2 Local said:

For everyone who needs it, here you go!

REAL TIME SERVICE UPDATE!

(3) trains run between 137 St and New Lots Avenue due to track maintenance.

(3) train service is replaced by (2) trains, M7, and M102 buses in between 96 St and 148 St.

All northbound (6) trains skip Castle Hill Av, Zerega Av, Westchester Sq, Middletown Rd and Buhre Av.

(5) train service in between E 180 St and Bowling Green is replace d by (2) and (4) trains.

(4) trains are running local between 125 St and Grand Central

All northbound (7) trains skip 33 St, 40 St, 46 St, 52 St and 69 St.

(7) trains are running in 2 sections, between 34 St and Hunterspoint Av, and between Queensboro Plaza and Main St due to structural rehabilitation at Court Square

(A) trains are running local in between 145 St and 168 St.

(C) trains are not running between 145 St and 168 St

(E) trains are running local in between Queens Plaza and Roosevelt Avenue

(F) trains are running via the (E) line in between Rockefeller Center and Roosevelt Avenue

(N) trains are running local in between DeKalb Avenue and 59 St

This entire post would fit perfectly in the Planned Subway Service Changes thread...

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1 hour ago, vioreen said:

Should the (F) line be extended from Jamaica 179 further out into Queens up to Cunningham Park ?

Combined with a rethink of the buses in that area feeding the train, I think it's something worth considering. 

Looking at the bus routes currently on Hillside, (F) stops at 188 Street, Francis Lewis Blvd and Springfield Blvd would allow you to consolidate the buses on north and south of Hillside into one route rather than funneling together to Jamaica.

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