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11 hours ago, CenSin said:

The protests are exactly what will bring COVID-19 back to full strength. We had people socially distancing until Memorial Day. Then the protesters and rioters amassed in huge groups. Then the police amassed in huge groups. A lot of them didn’t even wear masks. Cuomo, being the proud man that he is, would not backpedal on his commitment to reopening on June 8 of course.

Come June 30, we might see an uptick in positive cases again.

I don' think there will be an uptick, just like there wasn't after the Michigan protests, or spring break in Florida.  I'm sure Cuomo will walk back on his commitment to reopen if NYC doesn't meet the metrics.

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(L) closure alternatives (post COVID)

Why doesn't the (MTA) send the (Z) down to Canarsie? It would boost the tph to 15 from the (L) 's current 6-7 tph due to the closure. And not only that, the (Z) can run from Broad Street to Canarsie or from Jamaica Center to Canarsie thanks to the relay tracks outside Broadway Junction. And since the (L) isn't running many trains, some of the (L)'s cars could be sent to the (M), maybe even some R143's. Since the (M) is the #1 replacement for the (L), it would make service better and be a great G.O. to document. Another alternative could be sending the spare R46's from the (R) onto the (G) since the (G) is the (L)'s #2 replacement. The (R) would not suffer i this scenario because the (MTA) is implementing CBTC on the Queens Blvd Line, so R46's cannot run on the (E)(F)(M)(R) lines.

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https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/mta-resuming-full-service-next-week-wants-help-from-volunteers/?fbclid=IwAR2NMItkZhAsEfZxxSRFo9ZOMjXXaMuJqeB7vdk07fLL3YVaygTR1AMMeLE : Article about full service on the MTA NYC system

Full service resumes next week, but, let's see

https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/retailers-cancel-reopenings-amid-protests-over-george-floyds-killing/?fbclid=IwAR3WobPBdiVBxS7Q8xfx1Ng9ujVGMlaTRPGeen2sOFF5hfWdW9GXYpstyso : Retail stores cancelled reopening at that week due to chaos that has happened this week. 

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There's a talk that starting Monday, the 8th, the (6) and (7) Express service will return in-passenger service. The (7) put-ins/drop-offs at 111 St may come back. 

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On 6/2/2020 at 5:41 PM, Calvin said:

They'll still do phase I of reopening, Some stores will still open

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Today the (7) and (6) is now going exp. And the (R) goes back to 96th Street 2nd Avenue for the morning,  just tracked it today this morning.

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9 hours ago, Calvin said:

There's a talk that starting Monday, the 8th, the (6) and (7) Express service will return in-passenger service. The (7) put-ins/drop-offs at 111 St may come back. 

It started today. 

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Subway service is getting back to normal. (B)(W) and (Z) service will be return on Monday right?

 

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I wonder if the flip seats on the 142/As and select 160 will be removed to avoid contact with one another. 

 

Also, other R160A-1 on the (C) is 8329-8332 / 8341-8344

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2 on the C: 8329-2, 8341-4, 8357-60, 8369-72

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9 hours ago, Calvin said:

I wonder if the flip seats on the 142/As and select 160 will be removed to avoid contact with one another. 

 

Also, other R160A-1 on the (C) is 8329-8332 / 8341-8344

Those are getting sent back this weekend, the (L) needs them. 

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If moving the (F) to 53rd is successful, would it be possible to have a more frequent <F> service? Here's how I could see it happening, not sure if it would be best to do though:

- both expresses run via 53rd so the (F) can pick up more for the (E) 

-this allows the (F) to run more TPH, so we can go for 18 tph (F) / 12 tph (E) with CBTC

- (M) service is limited by the Williamsburg bridge and myrtle to 10 tph, so there isn't an issue of conflict on 6th Av

- 18 tph can be split into 10 tph (F) local and 8 tph <F> express

Any ideas if this would be practical?

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38 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said:

If moving the (F) to 53rd is successful, would it be possible to have a more frequent <F> service? Here's how I could see it happening, not sure if it would be best to do though:

- both expresses run via 53rd so the (F) can pick up more for the (E) 

-this allows the (F) to run more TPH, so we can go for 18 tph (F) / 12 tph (E) with CBTC

- (M) service is limited by the Williamsburg bridge and myrtle to 10 tph, so there isn't an issue of conflict on 6th Av

- 18 tph can be split into 10 tph (F) local and 8 tph <F> express

Any ideas if this would be practical?

Unless they plan to have the (M) run overnight on 63rd Street, I don't see the sense of this swap.  Why is the MTA even considering a plan that would still require the (F) to stay on 63rd for late nights and weekends? It will just create confusion for the riders.

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14 minutes ago, R10 2952 said:

Unless they plan to have the (M) run overnight on 63rd Street, I don't see the sense of this swap.  Why is the MTA even considering a plan that would still require the (F) to stay on 63rd for late nights and weekends? It will just create confusion for the riders.

Exactly. Unless they plan on having the (M) end at 21st St during weekends and overnights.

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58 minutes ago, R10 2952 said:

Unless they plan to have the (M) run overnight on 63rd Street, I don't see the sense of this swap.  Why is the MTA even considering a plan that would still require the (F) to stay on 63rd for late nights and weekends? It will just create confusion for the riders.

If they do keep this swap, they should make the (M) local to Forest Hills at all times except overnight and have the (R)(W) swap northern terminals so that the (W) becomes the part time QBL local.

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Yet they have no plan as to which phase overnight service returns.  Why are politicians so keen on ending it forever?

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2 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

If moving the (F) to 53rd is successful, would it be possible to have a more frequent <F> service? Here's how I could see it happening, not sure if it would be best to do though:

- both expresses run via 53rd so the (F) can pick up more for the (E) 

-this allows the (F) to run more TPH, so we can go for 18 tph (F) / 12 tph (E) with CBTC

- (M) service is limited by the Williamsburg bridge and myrtle to 10 tph, so there isn't an issue of conflict on 6th Av

- 18 tph can be split into 10 tph (F) local and 8 tph <F> express

Any ideas if this would be practical?

I'd say yes. Though I'd do this a bit differently: 

18 (E); 12 (F) via 53rd. 6 TPH worth of (E) Trains will run Express to 179th along with these (F) Trains in Question. 

8 TPH worth of (M) Service should run full time via 63rd with 6-7 TPH worth of (F) trains that'll run local in Queens and as <F>'s in Brooklyn. 

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36 minutes ago, Collin said:

Yet they have no plan as to which phase overnight service returns.  Why are politicians so keen on ending it forever?

Some of you forget we are still dealing with a world where everything has to be cleaned constantly. It's established that not just the subways but other jobs and environments will not be operating near normal anytime soon.

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9 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

If moving the (F) to 53rd is successful, would it be possible to have a more frequent <F> service? Here's how I could see it happening, not sure if it would be best to do though:

- both expresses run via 53rd so the (F) can pick up more for the (E) 

-this allows the (F) to run more TPH, so we can go for 18 tph (F) / 12 tph (E) with CBTC

- (M) service is limited by the Williamsburg bridge and myrtle to 10 tph, so there isn't an issue of conflict on 6th Av

- 18 tph can be split into 10 tph (F) local and 8 tph <F> express

Any ideas if this would be practical?

Are they still planning to swap the (F)‘s and (M)’s East River crossings? I do think it’s practical, but my concern is with the (M) running 10 tph with 8-car trains, it will be a significant cut in service to the 63rd St corridor. However, there will be much less merging near Queens Plaza with only the (M) and (R) merging at 36th St.

6 hours ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said:

I'd say yes. Though I'd do this a bit differently: 

18 (E); 12 (F) via 53rd. 6 TPH worth of (E) Trains will run Express to 179th along with these (F) Trains in Question. 

8 TPH worth of (M) Service should run full time via 63rd with 6-7 TPH worth of (F) trains that'll run local in Queens and as <F>'s in Brooklyn. 

Those (F) trains that run local should be called (V) trains. It will be very confusing to some (F) trains local in Queens via the 63rd St tunnel and others express via 53rd.

7 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

If they do keep this swap, they should make the (M) local to Forest Hills at all times except overnight and have the (R)(W) swap northern terminals so that the (W) becomes the part time QBL local.

Agreed. If the (M) is rerouted to 63rd, then it would be better to have the same service in the 63rd St tunnel on weekends as weekdays. 

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6 hours ago, Collin said:

Yet they have no plan as to which phase overnight service returns.  Why are politicians so keen on ending it forever?

How do you know they want to end it forever? Personally, I’d like for trains to be cleaned  and sterilized to minimize the chances of catching not just Corona, but also the flu and other contagions if the trains aren’t cleared of homeless people. And bed bugs...yup, homeless people have them. 

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6 hours ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

Are they still planning to swap the (F)‘s and (M)’s East River crossings? I do think it’s practical, but my concern is with the (M) running 10 tph with 8-car trains, it will be a significant cut in service to the 63rd St corridor. However, there will be much less merging near Queens Plaza with only the (M) and (R) merging at 36th St.

Well, the merge count remains the same:

  • (E)(F): 36 Street ⟶ 5 Avenue/53 Street
  • (M)(R): Queens Plaza ⟶ 36 Street

I don’t know if 5 Avenue/53 Street is better since the junction is run like Broadway’s 34 Street–Herald Square switches; the (F) ((N)) has to switch between the (E) ((Q)) and (M) ((R)) tracks. Is that curve even long enough to act as a pocket track for the (F) while it’s waiting for the track ahead to clear?

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24 minutes ago, CenSin said:

Well, the merge count remains the same:

  • (E)(F): 36 Street ⟶ 5 Avenue/53 Street
  • (M)(R): Queens Plaza ⟶ 36 Street

I don’t know if 5 Avenue/53 Street is better since the junction is run like Broadway’s 34 Street–Herald Square switches; the (F) ((N)) has to switch between the (E) ((Q)) and (M) ((R)) tracks. Is that curve even long enough to act as a pocket track for the (F) while it’s waiting for the track ahead to clear?

Actually it’s one merge less. Now you don’t have an (E) and (M) merge 

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10 hours ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

Agreed. If the (M) is rerouted to 63rd, then it would be better to have the same service in the 63rd St tunnel on weekends as weekdays. 

By that logic, (R) should run to Continental overnights so (N) stays on the bridge, and the current (M) should never run to Chambers St on weekends.

(I think people will catch on if (F) runs over 63rd St overnights.)

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