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3 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

Actually it’s one merge less. Now you don’t have an (E) and (M) merge 

Ah! right on! how'd i forget that merge. It's as bad as the (N) merge and split to share the 60 Street tunnel with the (R). good to eliminate

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5 minutes ago, Deucey said:

By that logic, (R) should run to Continental overnights so (N) stays on the bridge

They’re not exactly comparable though. All of the tunnel route is a superset of the Manhattan Bridge route. It’s basically a local-from-express change and logically a part of the same corridor (though it’s one hell of a physical shortcut that even the IND’s deliberate efforts doesn’t beat).

63 Street, however, has a different set of stops from 53 Street. They are logically and physically different corridors.

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48 minutes ago, CenSin said:

They’re not exactly comparable though. All of the tunnel route is a superset of the Manhattan Bridge route. It’s basically a local-from-express change and logically a part of the same corridor (though it’s one hell of a physical shortcut that even the IND’s deliberate efforts doesn’t beat).

63 Street, however, has a different set of stops from 53 Street. They are logically and physically different corridors.

63rd St is one of those corridors where no matter what you do with the service patterns, it will always be a mess in terms of switching and delays.

If they do want to switch the (M) and (F) on both 53rd and 63rd St corridors, that's going to do nothing but cause confusion. CenSin is right, even though 53rd St is "technically" a shortcut to the Queens Blvd Line, it's a big difference from when the (N) runs via Lower Manhattan. 

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Happy travels, stay safe and healthy. Two R160s are in-service on the (A) as of now. 

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4 minutes ago, vioreen said:

When the R211 delivery begins, what line is mostly likely to get the 211? 

Most likely the lines that use R46’s.

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9 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

Actually it’s one merge less. Now you don’t have an (E) and (M) merge 

And you’d also no longer have the (E) and (F) merging on the express tracks outside 36th St. There’s always delays there.

6 hours ago, Deucey said:

By that logic, (R) should run to Continental overnights so (N) stays on the bridge, and the current (M) should never run to Chambers St on weekends.

(I think people will catch on if (F) runs over 63rd St overnights.)

Right. Overnights via 63rd wouldn’t be a problem. It would be no different than the (N) running via Montague overnights. 

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Today I rode the (4) to the BX to see if trains are using the express track to bypass 138th S/B.... they are using the local track.

 

Took the (4) to 59th to transfer to the (R) to 42nd Street and walked to 8th Ave and was gonna wait there until either an R160 (A) or (C) train showed up, the FIRST (C) train to show up was a 160!

 

Of course I got on it and rode to Canal. As my (C) train is sitting in Canal I hear that Astom Onix population creeping into the station... An R160 (A) train was pulling into the station!!!!!! Of course I transferred to that 160 (A) train and rode to Broadway Junction. 

 

I thought about riding it all the way out to Lefferts but 1) I didn't feel like it 2) on weekends the (A) has LONG layovers at Lefferts and 3) I'm pretty sure I already rode an R160 out to Lefferts during an (F) to Lefferts G.O many years ago.

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All R68s and R68As are laid up at Coney Island-Stillwell Av Yard showing the (B) sign on the front and rollsigns are switched to Bronx-Bedford Park Blvd and Brighton Beach as a (Q) -. Coney Island.  

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100% R68/R68A (B) Trains are back.  Just like how (D) is 100% R68. Starting on Monday all of the Subway Lines will be very interesting to see.

 

 

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1 minute ago, bwwnyc123 said:

100% R68/R68A (B) Trains are back.  Just like how (D) 100% R68. Starting on Monday all of the Subway Lines will be very interesting to see.

Everything but the 42nd St Shuttle. That 1-stop ride is suspended till the end of this year. 

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Oh yes and that means riders will need to use (7) for crosstown service or take M42 Bus or Walk a few Avenue blocks.

 

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Few things I've noticed in the subway system now: 

-Social distancing marks have been placed on select stations showing a footprint both left and right

- After zone change at terminals, partial close is no longer done, such as Coney Island, Astoria-Ditmars etc.

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Was reading an article about subway ridership earlier this evening in the Daily News. I saw where Gridlock Sam was predicting about 50% of the riders would return by years end. There’s obviously a serious disconnect between the “experts “ and the railfan community.To read some posts you would think that everything is going back to normal on 6/8 .  I don’t know who’s really on the ball but I think the business community has a bead on the next 6 months. Let’s look at the projected number of job losses, temporary and permanent, before we go overboard on the subway and railroad return. IIRC subway ridership was higher in 2010 than in 2015 or later. I’m not sure if the article is still online but it compared the pre-and post pandemic numbers in selected cities worldwide. Cities where social distancing and masks are mandatory. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see all New Yorkers doing the right thing. Just my observation. Carry on.

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4 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

Was reading an article about subway ridership earlier this evening in the Daily News. I saw where Gridlock Sam was predicting about 50% of the riders would return by years end. There’s obviously a serious disconnect between the “experts “ and the railfan community.To read some posts you would think that everything is going back to normal on 6/8 .  I don’t know who’s really on the ball but I think the business community has a bead on the next 6 months. Let’s look at the projected number of job losses, temporary and permanent, before we go overboard on the subway and railroad return. IIRC subway ridership was higher in 2010 than in 2015 or later. I’m not sure if the article is still online but it compared the pre-and post pandemic numbers in selected cities worldwide. Cities where social distancing and masks are mandatory. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see all New Yorkers doing the right thing. Just my observation. Carry on.

I've been hearing that a lot of UES mothers and actors have been tearing each other apart on Facebook, or getting shunned out of state. From what I have heard, protests in Queens have been peaceful while a Brooklyn Resident had to negotiate peace with the NYPD, and residents up in the Bronx scared off protesters. We're merely waiting for Phase 1 of the City because Long Island is already in Phase II.

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Long Island,  meaning Nassau and Suffolk counties, is entering Phase 2 this upcoming  Wednesday to set the record straight. I'll let my fellow posters try to decipher the rest of the gibberish posted above. BTW I'm sure that anyone who can read a map or history book knows that Brooklyn and Queens are also on Long Island. I'm not sure what Phase or planet this particular person inhabits.  Carry on. 

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When the R179 goes back to service, maybe some extra ones can go on the (Q) line since no r160s on that line.

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19 hours ago, Calvin said:

Few things I've noticed in the subway system now:

- After zone change at terminals, partial close is no longer done, such as Coney Island, Astoria-Ditmars etc.

Same up at Woodlawn Cemetery and Pelham Bay Park; they must have given up on that practice quickly,

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Two questions:

1. How many Phase II R32s are left on property?

2. Which R62/A was the single “R142A” from Pelham 123 converted from? 

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Tomorrow's my first day physically going back to work at the office. Got my citibike account ready and ready to burn some rubber. I have become one of those New Yorkers who won't be returning to the subway even post-pandemic.

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3 hours ago, vioreen said:

When the R179 goes back to service, maybe some extra ones can go on the (Q) line since no r160s on that line.

Nah, if the (6) can be 100% NTT and then become 100% SMEE again, so can the (Q)

31 minutes ago, MeeP15-9112 said:

Two questions:

1. How many Phase II R32s are left on property?

 

2 pairs (4 cars) apart of the Transit Museum fleet.

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Except that the (Q) is not 100% SMEE because of the Siemens R160's that are still there.   The only reason that would happen is if they transferred the remaining R160's to a different yard, or decided to only use them on the (N)(W).

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Pretty cool to see that the Siemens R160 are used on other lines than the (N)(Q) and (W) . There's now the (E)(F) and (R) and now the (A)

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59 minutes ago, Calvin said:

Pretty cool to see that the Siemens R160 are used on other lines than the (N)(Q) and (W) . There's now the (E)(F) and (R) and now the (A)

It seems weird to see the Siemens R160Bs on any route that is not the (N) for some reason.

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According to data some subway lines are still on an essential schedule. Like the (F) and (L) 

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