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18 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

Long Island,  meaning Nassau and Suffolk counties, is entering Phase 2 this upcoming  Wednesday to set the record straight. I'll let my fellow posters try to decipher the rest of the gibberish posted above. BTW I'm sure that anyone who can read a map or history book knows that Brooklyn and Queens are also on Long Island. I'm not sure what Phase or planet this particular person inhabits.  Carry on. 

Long Island tends to grouped based on the LIRR station they live in or Fare Zone. A lot of new residents do not Transfer at Jamaica or even Woodside for the Subway and merely want to head into Manhattan as fast as possible. Over the past decade the LIRR has been marketing themselves as direct service into Penn Station and dread that their line might be cut once East Side Access is completed and having to transfer at Jamaica for another train to Penn or Grand Central. The Railroad Employees do not mention the buses and rails at either Jamaica or Woodside. They go with the assumption that people will take the subway at Atlantic Avenue-Barclay's Center in Downtown Brooklyn, or the same (2)(3) Lines at Penn Station. 

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Those R179s should be referred to Kawasaki and from their they'll inspect them and make any necessary changes to structures.

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16 hours ago, MeeP15-9112 said:

2. Which R62/A was the single “R142A” from Pelham 123 converted from? 

I think that was 2079

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Noticing a few pictures of the subway system, the bucket seats have one empty when the other side has one person sitting there with a mask. The middle seats were barely used. 

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On 6/6/2020 at 10:48 PM, Calvin said:

Few things I've noticed in the subway system now: 

-Social distancing marks have been placed on select stations showing a footprint both left and right

- After zone change at terminals, partial close is no longer done, such as Coney Island, Astoria-Ditmars etc.

Partial close was done at Rockaway Parkway on the (L) today.

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2 hours ago, bwwnyc123 said:

(B) Express in Brooklyn on Brighton Line fly down the tracks.

 

The MTA’s got maglev already? :lol:

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During corona, the MTA shut down the (B)(C)(W)(Z) along with the whole, "Essential Only" thing but Washington DC shut down one station for every worker who got corona. And it was randomized as well. It got to the point where lines like the silver line, which only had 5 stops on it's own, had no purpose in running at all. What the hell, DC?  

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I have an honest question for you posters about subway,  bus,  and railroad ridership in these troubled times. If the (MTA) website clearly states that ridership is for essential and Phase 1 workers what's the justification for so many people who don't fall into either category to be using public transportation at all ? I've seen TV news reports,  spoken to essential workers,  read posts on the forum,  and talked with Transit employees and the answers are all over the place. Let me make myself clear upfront. Because of my age and personal experience I am not your typical poster or rider. I'm a Suffolk county resident now who,  except for an emergency,  has no desire to use public transportation anywhere in the NYC metropolitan area. I don't have to travel except to take my wife to work.  She's an essential worker employed less than 2 miles away. Most of my younger family members are working from home in NYC, Nassau and Suffolk. What I've picked up is anecdotal from active Transit employees and my fellow posters. Some of my former colleagues have been quarantined because of the virus. One has died from the virus. The assumption is that most of them were infected by the general public ridership. If I was still an active employee l definitely would have no love for the non-essential ridership who might unwittingly put me and my family at risk. I watched the recent news about the nationwide protests and focused on the mask use issue. We've had some local protests in the City and on the Island where some people ignored the common sense mask rules altogether. Likewise I'm reading posts on the forum about bus and subway service and equipment and I have to ask myself why is anyone who isn't an essential or Phase 1 worker putting themselves and my coworkers at risk ? Personally I'd be more inclined to justify the protesters reasoning over that of the casual rider. That's just my opinion but I want to hear the reasoning from the other side. No hard feelings either way.  Carry on.

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Most people are still riding the MTA Subways, Railroads  (LIRR & MNR) and Buses etc. because they are also public transportation which is also part funded by us Taxpayers that work so everyone still has the right to use public transportation if you need it for personal or other reasons.

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Most people are not still riding public transit.  After all, ridership is down 90%.  But I agree that anyone has the right to use public transit if they need it, given that it is taxpayer funded.  It's not legally enforceable to ban certain people from it.

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5 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

I have an honest question for you posters about subway,  bus,  and railroad ridership in these troubled times. If the (MTA) website clearly states that ridership is for essential and Phase 1 workers what's the justification for so many people who don't fall into either category to be using public transportation at all ? I've seen TV news reports,  spoken to essential workers,  read posts on the forum,  and talked with Transit employees and the answers are all over the place. Let me make myself clear upfront. Because of my age and personal experience I am not your typical poster or rider. I'm a Suffolk county resident now who,  except for an emergency,  has no desire to use public transportation anywhere in the NYC metropolitan area. I don't have to travel except to take my wife to work.  She's an essential worker employed less than 2 miles away. Most of my younger family members are working from home in NYC, Nassau and Suffolk. What I've picked up is anecdotal from active Transit employees and my fellow posters. Some of my former colleagues have been quarantined because of the virus. One has died from the virus. The assumption is that most of them were infected by the general public ridership. If I was still an active employee l definitely would have no love for the non-essential ridership who might unwittingly put me and my family at risk. I watched the recent news about the nationwide protests and focused on the mask use issue. We've had some local protests in the City and on the Island where some people ignored the common sense mask rules altogether. Likewise I'm reading posts on the forum about bus and subway service and equipment and I have to ask myself why is anyone who isn't an essential or Phase 1 worker putting themselves and my coworkers at risk ? Personally I'd be more inclined to justify the protesters reasoning over that of the casual rider. That's just my opinion but I want to hear the reasoning from the other side. No hard feelings either way.  Carry on.

Most people don’t have any other modes of transportation and can’t afford or straight up don’t want to pay for an Uber and Lyft when they know that the trains and buses are right here still working 

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2 hours ago, Collin said:

Most people are not still riding public transit.  After all, ridership is down 90%.  But I agree that anyone has the right to use public transit if they need it, given that it is taxpayer funded.  It's not legally enforceable to ban certain people from it.

I have to agree with you that if I have to use it I would too. The thing that bothers me about the whole process is the casual user, the people that have no particular reason for riding except for their own pleasure. Those who make it harder to do the right thing by social distancing. Those who have to see a particular type subway car or bus on a particular route or their lives are incomplete. With the recent protests ( many without masks) and those who have cabin fever I'm afraid that the slow reopening of the area may grind to a halt or be reversed as the number of virus cases begins to grow again. It's annoying to me that some people are so selfish that they overlook the big picture. My friends and relatives in Florida and NC are getting a taste of the coronavirus resurgence. I hope that we New Yorkers are smarter than the others. I want this over ASAP but it seems that not everyone has the same goal.  Carry on. 

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48 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said:

Most people don’t have any other modes of transportation and can’t afford or straight up don’t want to pay for an Uber and Lyft when they know that the trains and buses are right here still working 

You realize that I am speaking about the casual ridership in general ? 

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1 hour ago, Trainmaster5 said:

The thing that bothers me about the whole process is the casual user, the people that have no particular reason for riding except for their own pleasure. Those who make it harder to do the right thing by social distancing. Those who have to see a particular type subway car or bus on a particular route or their lives are incomplete.

I think you're greatly overstating the number of casual users, specifically railfans.  While there are many of them on this forum, It's a tiny fraction of those who ride the subway in general.  As long as they follow the same rules as everyone else, I don't see a problem with it.  I also think there's a grey area as to who is a casual user.  Obviously that means railfans, but what about those who are riding the trains to go to a park, or to see their friends?  

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23 minutes ago, Collin said:

I think you're greatly overstating the number of casual users, specifically railfans.  While there are many of them on this forum, It's a tiny fraction of those who ride the subway in general.  As long as they follow the same rules as everyone else, I don't see a problem with it.  I also think there's a grey area as to who is a casual user.  Obviously that means railfans, but what about those who are riding the trains to go to a park, or to see their friends?  

I certainly hope that I am overstating the numbers. Although I worded my original comment towards the forum users they were not really the point I was trying to make. I meant no offense.  What I'm asking everyone to do is look at the (MTA) website and what it says at the top of the page. That's what I'm trying to understand. I'm out here in Suffolk county and all of the mini buses have " Essential Riders Only " on the destination signage. They don't want casual riders,  period and the buses only stop to let people get off except near the LIRR stops.  What I'm getting at is the Governor, the (MTA) and the county execs and the general population aren't quite on the same page.  That's what confuses me about the transportation situation.  What is happening in Nassau county or on NJT?  Seems to be a mixed message IMO. Thanks for your clarification.  Carry on. 

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3 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

I have to agree with you that if I have to use it I would too. The thing that bothers me about the whole process is the casual user, the people that have no particular reason for riding except for their own pleasure. Those who make it harder to do the right thing by social distancing. Those who have to see a particular type subway car or bus on a particular route or their lives are incomplete. With the recent protests ( many without masks) and those who have cabin fever I'm afraid that the slow reopening of the area may grind to a halt or be reversed as the number of virus cases begins to grow again. It's annoying to me that some people are so selfish that they overlook the big picture. My friends and relatives in Florida and NC are getting a taste of the coronavirus resurgence. I hope that we New Yorkers are smarter than the others. I want this over ASAP but it seems that not everyone has the same goal.  Carry on. 

That is why it bothers me seeing all the fanning videos on Youtube. If they are from a transit employee who has to be using the system that is fine, but people should not go into the subway to railfan at this time. I don't care if the R32s come out for one day. They are my favorite cars. I am not going to put myself and other people at risk.

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If i wear my mask what’s the problem? Plenty of guys are without masks or not on their nose. I always wear mine in the subway and bus.

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18 minutes ago, Abba said:

If i wear my mask what’s the problem? Plenty of guys are without masks or not on their nose. I always wear mine in the subway and bus.

Masks may help, but they're not surefire protection. After all, hands can easily spread contagion.

The issue also goes beyond the individual, particularly since an asymptomatic person can spread it to someone in a high-risk group.

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25 minutes ago, Lex said:

Masks may help, but they're not surefire protection. After all, hands can easily spread contagion.

The issue also goes beyond the individual, particularly since an asymptomatic person can spread it to someone in a high-risk group.

I would think of masks as birth control for coronavirus. You can stack the odds against the virus, but the only surefire way to avoid disaster is abstinence.

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