BUS - Random Thoughts Thread

[LegoBrickBreaker101]

Does anyone know what's on the  shuttles?

[Train92]

4 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

Does anyone know what's on the  shuttles?

As far as i saw, there was a XN40. But there are Newer XD40's out

[Coney Island Av]

Do any of ya'll know some good places in Staten Island for express bus shots? 

I want to get photos/videos of every bus from X1-X31 before the new network goes into effect. 

[Future ENY OP]

Just now, Coney Island Av said:

Do any of ya'll know some good places in Staten Island for express bus shots? 

I want to get photos/videos of every bus from X1-X31 before the new network goes into effect. 

My best bet for you: Try these locations  Hylan Blvd, Richmond Avenue, ETC (Etingville Transit Center), Tottenville, Staten Island Mall, Port Richmond.

[East New York]

21 hours ago, Brillant93 said:

I believe on page II-26 through page II-28. On page II-28 it says "MTA Bus: expenses increase on average by $1 million annually from 2018 to 2021. These changes mostly reflect costs associated with the articulated bus loan program with NYCT used to service SBS routes, and inflationary adjustments."

Got it. The wording had me confused. Didn’t know they started calling it a “Program.” That would suggest it’s a regular thing. But yes MTA Bus has to pay NYCT for the use of the buses because they are brand new, and NYCT will not get the full use-per-dollar out of them because of this.

[Brillant93]

1 hour ago, East New York said:

Got it. The wording had me confused. Didn’t know they started calling it a “Program.” That would suggest it’s a regular thing. But yes MTA Bus has to pay NYCT for the use of the buses because they are brand new, and NYCT will not get the full use-per-dollar out of them because of this.

the wording had me confused as well. I guess if its driving up costs then yeah get rid of it. 

[Calvin]

We're getting close to where MTA Bus will be just low floor buses for local standard routes

Edited August 13, 2018 by Calvin

[MHV184]

Anyone know  which depots are going to be helping on the L shuttle next year?

[Future ENY OP]

26 minutes ago, MHV184 said:

Anyone know  which depots are going to be helping on the L shuttle next year?

Check the fleets and depots section of the forum and right now is too early to ask such question. 

[Calvin]

Was there any ridership on the X17 to/from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn bus stop?

Edited August 13, 2018 by Calvin

[Lil 57]

9 hours ago, Calvin said:

Was there any ridership on the X17 to/from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn bus stop?

Yes, they cut it because the X28 now runs on weekends. But many people used it as a quick way to get to Staten Island from Brooklyn. 

[S78 via Hylan]

1 hour ago, Lil 57 said:

Yes, they cut it because the X28 now runs on weekends. But many people used it as a quick way to get to Staten Island from Brooklyn. 

It’s still there until August 19th, I believe.

Edited August 13, 2018 by S78 via Hylan

[B35 via Church]

19 hours ago, Coney Island Av said:

Do any of ya'll know some good places in Staten Island for express bus shots? 

I want to get photos/videos of every bus from X1-X31 before the new network goes into effect. 

I'd say Narrows Rd (b/w Hylan & Fingerboard), ETC itself, & Port Richmond/Forest, Hylan at & north of New Dorp, checkpoint over there at Arthur Kill/Huguenot are some places that come to mind....

If you want to grab some shots whilst in Manhattan, you can gun for State st/Battery place (Bowling green area) & 42nd st (b/w 5th & PABT) as well...

Edited August 13, 2018 by B35 via Church

[Lil 57]

I wonder why the  doesn't have any express routes going to places other than Manhattan. For example, if you want to get from Staten Island to Queens, you have to transfer in Manhattan with all of the traffic there. 

[Via Garibaldi 8]

7 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

I wonder why the  doesn't have any express routes going to places other than Manhattan. For example, if you want to get from Staten Island to Queens, you have to transfer in Manhattan with all of the traffic there. 

Because express buses are supposed to take people from the outerboroughs to the CBD (Central Business District) which is essentially either Midtown or Downtown. That's why every express bus that goes to Manhattan either terminates Downtown or Midtown.  Unfortunately I don't see that changing, even with this bus re-design.  If you want to use the express bus to get from say the South Shore to Northeast Queens, you will have to take the express bus into Manhattan and transfer for a Queens express bus.

[Lil 57]

2 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

If you want to use the express bus to get from say the South Shore to Northeast Queens, you will have to take the express bus into Manhattan and transfer for a Queens express bus.

And if you're coming from the deap south shore as of August 19th, you're going to have to tansfer to the subway during off-peak hours.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

6 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

And if you're coming from the deap south shore as of August 19th, you're going to have to tansfer to the subway during off-peak hours.

Yep... The  would never run such an express bus service anyway, likely citing a lack of ridership.  Technically speaking, if we were going just based off of the whole CBD (Central Business District) concept most express buses would run peak-service only, but obviously people work at all hours now and the areas without subways need the service outside of peak periods as well, as people use the express buses for work and play.  Without the service, congestion would be far worse than it is now or people simply wouldn't commute as much. For example, I do my grocery shopping primarily in Manhattan first and my neighborhood second just because I have more options available to me, as food is actually more expensive in my neighborhood 9 times out of 10.  If I didn't have service off-peak I would likely go shopping in Westchester instead or get an Uber to Manhattan and back.

Edited August 13, 2018 by Via Garibaldi 8

[Lil 57]

Just saw a dehead on Richmond Ave signed up as an SIM10.

[Missabassie]

54 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

Just saw a dehead on Richmond Ave signed up as an SIM10.

Okaaay.... Who got de-headed?? (I think its beheaded) 😁😀

[MHV184]

Anyone know why manhattanville is so.. short this summer?

[checkmatechamp13]

9 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

Yes, they cut it because the X28 now runs on weekends. But many people used it as a quick way to get to Staten Island from Brooklyn. 

Beat me to it....

7 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

I wonder why the  doesn't have any express routes going to places other than Manhattan. For example, if you want to get from Staten Island to Queens, you have to transfer in Manhattan with all of the traffic there. 

It's guaranteed ridership. A rider headed from Staten Island to Queens can transfer in Manhattan without too much trouble (where it also benefits those who go to Manhattan itself), compared to a direct SI-Queens express bus where it would be virtually useless for somebody heading to Manhattan (depending of course, on what part of Queens you're talking about)

The other thing to consider is the HOV lane network. For example, even if there was a branch of the X17 that went to Long Island City (where I work, and where it is slowly becoming business-oriented), I would probably continue going into Manhattan because the HOV lane connections are better (and also, because such a route would probably only run every 30-60 minutes)

2 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

Just saw a dehead on Richmond Ave signed up as an SIM10.

I was on an X17A going home, and I think I caught a glimpse of an SIM4C on the SIE heading eastbound.

[Future ENY OP]

8 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

Just saw a dehead on Richmond Ave signed up as an SIM10.

My guess is training for the new routes. I could only assume that most SIM routes will retain their travel direction and others may experience some detours.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

14 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I'd say Narrows Rd (b/w Hylan & Fingerboard), ETC itself, & Port Richmond/Forest, Hylan at & north of New Dorp, checkpoint over there at Arthur Kill/Huguenot are some places that come to mind....

If you want to grab some shots whilst in Manhattan, you can gun for State st/Battery place (Bowling green area) & 42nd st (b/w 5th & PABT) as well...

From that, depends on what type of shots you're looking for. For just getting a shot and leaving, yeah, that's a good area. For all other shots, any specific shots in mind, I would suggest the 6th Avenue stop. Additionally, if a bus misses the light at Broadway, that's another good opportunity. Those two areas generally don't have as many pedestrians as 7th or 8th Avenues. The corner of 8th Avenue is the worst though, too many people, plus the jitneys that lay over, and the delivery trucks that pass every once in a while.

[trife86]

15 hours ago, MHV184 said:

Anyone know why manhattanville is so.. short this summer?

Your the one with the MTV logo man you should know lol

[MysteriousBtrain]

324 with new screens. The ones found on the newer XD40s and XN60s.

Also could one of the mods make a On-board screen thread similar to the thread on scrapped and repainted buses? Would be really helpful with all these new additions to screens on older buses.

Edited August 14, 2018 by MysteriousBtrain
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