BUS - Random Thoughts Thread

[XcelsiorBoii4888]

1 minute ago, mine248 said:

I would’ve cared about the fare jumpers more. But yeah, there has been a lot of incidents where bus drivers have gotten beaten up because of this. Hopefully they can get people to check in and see if people are paying or not. Even better, make them plainscolthes people.

Yeah I understand that some drivers been assaulted, but it doesn't make sense for them to bitch about filming when there's literally no threat. Tourist take photos/videos of everything all day, but now it's a problem when your bus is targeted? Please...lemme be taking a photo and someone says something to me, got the wrong one. It be the dirty drivers who bitch because they don't want any of their bs to be caught on film. Do your job and you'll have nothing to worry about hiding. Worry about the guys getting on your bus walking pass you tough guy. 

[Jdog14]

20 minutes ago, lara8710 said:

On various routes in the Bronx (the borough where I live) I'd be seeing a bunch of thugs board through the back doors of buses and not pay their fares. If there are cameras on buses to track down fare beaters, why aren't they getting caught? That makes me sick to my stomach 😕

 

The cameras on the bus are only used when there is an incident. 

[Lil 57]

17 minutes ago, lara8710 said:

It would be a great idea if drivers would refuse to move once passengers are seen boarding through the back door, and resume only after they have paid their fares.

Some B/O's do this. Especially on express buses.

[trife86]

42 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Its funny how they're quick to say no filming to yall, but someone gets on the bus and doesn't pay, and they won't say or do shit. It's like pple look for others to try to bully or put in check, just to boost their ego. 

Chill out man it's not everyone that does it. Dont slam everyone for it.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

32 minutes ago, trife86 said:

Chill out man it's not everyone that does it. Dont slam everyone for it.

You're probably one of the B/Os I see chilling riding down 5th Avenue with some crazy bus signage up. lol

[LGA Link N Train]

1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

NEVER do that.....they can say what they want, but the fact is that most operators don't even know the rules that customers have to abide by......

If needed, always carry a copy of the rules.

http://web.mta.info/nyct/rules/rules.htm

Thank you for giving me a link to get a copy of the Rules and Regulations, I was actually looking for that earlier today. Anyways, to clear things up, I deleted my footage by accident. When I realized that I could use it as evidence for something, it was too late. 

Anyways, I’ll just continue to mind my own business. And if that I see that B/O again (or any other MTA staff that tries to tell me that I’m not allowed to Rail/Busfan and such) and he tries to tell me the same thing, then I’ll make sure to be prepared for a counter-argument. Besides, as everyone else stated here, they should be more worried about fare beaters then people who are minding their own business.

[trife86]

12 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

You're probably one of the B/Os I see chilling riding down 5th Avenue with some crazy bus signage up. lol

Hah. That is a funny thought but no I try to stay far far away from express bus.

 

Although one sign I did like that i Think the NGs still have (code 9200 I think) just said " EARTH DAY 2013 MTA YOUR DAILY POLLUTION SUBSTITUTION"  it was ridiculous lol

I am not fast at all and probably one you would say is a filler and constantly late. But definitely not rude or one that Huff's and puffs going to the end of the line. 

Some stuff is kinda hard to believe lol.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

1 minute ago, trife86 said:

Hah. That is a funny thought but no I try to stay far far away from express bus.

 

Although one sign I did like that i Think the NGs still have (code 9200 I think) just said " EARTH DAY 2013 MTA YOUR DAILY POLLUTION SUBSTITUTION"  it was ridiculous lol

I am not fast at all and probably one you would say is a filler and constantly late. But definitely not rude or one that Huff's and puffs going to the end of the line. 

Some stuff is kinda hard to believe lol.

As one guy likes to "suggest" to me... I can take the subway or the local bus instead of taking him to the end of the line... Only a suggestion... lol

[trife86]

5 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

As one guy likes to "suggest" to me... I can take the subway or the local bus instead of taking him to the end of the line... Only a suggestion... lol

Hah yeah. I don't really understand it on express bus but I had people get on local bus like 2 stops before the end of the line and inform them I only got 2 stops left. But to say I'm not going to the end of the line better have a valid reason.

 

It's tough I know some customers are hard to work with, and I see how some drivers are hard to work with as well ( even as a driver I see co-workers being difficult even to each other let alone the public)

 

[Via Garibaldi 8]

3 minutes ago, trife86 said:

Hah yeah. I don't really understand it on express bus but I had people get on local bus like 2 stops before the end of the line and inform them I only got 2 stops left. But to say I'm not going to the end of the line better have a valid reason.

 

It's tough I know some customers are hard to work with, and I see how some drivers are hard to work with as well ( even as a driver I see co-workers being difficult even to each other let alone the public)

 

Oh yes... There is definitely drama between drivers. I have a few B/Os that I know. They can stand certain drivers! lol

[trife86]

6 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Oh yes... There is definitely drama between drivers. I have a few B/Os that I know. They can stand certain drivers! lol

Yea but it's for no reason at all, they like to play games on the road and in turn it doesn't really hurt the other driver being we are paid till we get back to depot. It hurts everyone. If someone just hangs back let's another bus pick up the work, doesn't just effect the driver it has a big chain reaction, standing room busses followed by empty bypassing busses being other busses in the stand.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2018 by trife86

[trife86]

On another note not sure why on express it's more of a issue ( most straight express runs pay more) while on local side there is quite a bit more teamwork and helping each other out. 

I can't comment about everyone but it's all broken all around lol 

[Via Garibaldi 8]

5 minutes ago, trife86 said:

On another note not sure why on express it's more of a issue ( most straight express runs pay more) while on local side there is quite a bit more teamwork and helping each other out. 

I can't comment about everyone but it's all broken all around lol 

I have faith in my contact getting express bus service turned around. We've spoken a few times via conference call and of course met in person in my last meeting.  He's new in the position, but not new at the  . Seems as if some heads are rolling out of at least one depot (I have another contact on the inside that knows the deal) and some promotions have occurred. My group is monitored and little by little the issues are being addressed.  They're totally systemic though. Most of the folks under him are quite competent and knowledgeable.  The guy running the show in the Bronx runs a tight ship, that's for sure. He's been out in Queens and Staten Island as well. Chatted with him for about 45 minutes as well. Very impressed.  

Edited December 19, 2018 by Via Garibaldi 8

[Armandito]

3 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I have faith in my contact getting express bus service turned around. We've spoken a few times via conference call and of course met in person in my last meeting.  He's new in the position, but not new at the  . Seems as if some heads are rolling out of at least one depot (I have another contact on the inside that knows the deal) and some promotions have occurred. My group is monitored and little by little the issues are being addressed.  They're totally systemic though. Most of the folks under him are quite competent and knowledgeable.  The guy running the show in the Bronx runs a tight ship, that's for sure. He's been out in Queens and Staten Island as well. Chatted with him for about 45 minutes as well. Very impressed.  

Are you a bus driver? After reading this post I can tell that it could be your occupation.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Just now, lara8710 said:

Are you a bus driver? After reading this post I can tell that it could be your occupation.

No.  My uncle was for many years. Retired a few years ago while still in his 50s.

[Armandito]

1 minute ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

No.  My uncle was for many years. Retired a few years ago while still in his 50s.

Good for him. What is your occupation BTW?

[Via Garibaldi 8]

4 minutes ago, lara8710 said:

Good for him. What is your occupation BTW?

I'm in management. I run a department as a project manager/coordinator, so I have a knack for running things.  I run hundreds of projects every year of all different sizes. That's why when I have people at the  telling me that my requests to have buses run on-time are essentially not reasonable, I say BS. They've been doing it in the last few weeks. Still some problems but much better than before.  Now they have to work on getting trips filled. Still lots of missing buses.  Staten Island won't be truly looked at until January, so the focus is really on the other boroughs, with an eye on the issues on Staten Island.

Edited December 19, 2018 by Via Garibaldi 8

[Armandito]

2 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I'm in management. I run a department as a project manager/coordinator, so I have a knack for running things.  I run hundreds of projects every year of all different sizes. That's why when I have people at the  telling me that my requests to have buses run on-time are essentially not reasonable, I say BS. They've been doing it in the last few weeks. Still some problems but much better than before.  Now they have to work on getting trips filled. Still lots of missing buses.  Staten Island won't be truly looked at until January, so the focus is really on the other boroughs, with an eye on the issues on Staten Island.

You certainly have a point, and it makes me believe that creating a bus route is much easier said than done--a lesson I learned the hard way a long time ago.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Just now, lara8710 said:

You certainly have a point, and it makes me believe that creating a bus route is much easier said than done--a lesson I learned the hard way a long time ago.

Well being a manager is no easy task. You need to have people smarts and you need to read people and body language and all of that.  You also have to know how to get people to work for you and how to deal with personalities.  I think this guy's character is such that he can do just that.  Very easy going, courteous, etc., but I can tell from my conversations with him that he knows how to lead effectively which is what's important and when necessary he can crack the whip.  I just wonder how much he can handle. He has A LOT to oversee which may mean inconsistency but not his fault. I don't envy him that's for sure.   

[JubaionBx12+SBS]

I don't know what's up with the Bx12 lately but I'm a lot less than impressed. Nearly every PM Rush there's parading (the term I'm coining for bunches that exceed 3 buses) and wide ass gaps otherwise and today I go to Pelham Bay to see a sardine can SBS bus sitting at the Eastbound stop with two more SRO (or close to it) buses right behind. This is in addition to an SRO local bus pulling in to terminate (since when does the local carry this well to be terminating SRO) and two more locals close behind. 

[Armandito]

14 hours ago, JubaionBx12+SBS said:

I don't know what's up with the Bx12 lately but I'm a lot less than impressed. Nearly every PM Rush there's parading (the term I'm coining for bunches that exceed 3 buses) and wide ass gaps otherwise and today I go to Pelham Bay to see a sardine can SBS bus sitting at the Eastbound stop with two more SRO (or close to it) buses right behind. This is in addition to an SRO local bus pulling in to terminate (since when does the local carry this well to be terminating SRO) and two more locals close behind. 

So true. The Bx12 route is ALWAYS plagued with bunching. Now I wonder if it would be possible to build a SAS extension to Co-op City along Park Avenue and Pelham Parkway... wouldn't that be great? Besides, it would most definitely relieve congestion along that bus route.

Edited December 20, 2018 by lara8710

[Missabassie]

17 hours ago, lara8710 said:

On various routes in the Bronx (the borough where I live) I'd be seeing a bunch of thugs board through the back doors of buses and not pay their fares. If there are cameras on buses to track down fare beaters, why aren't they getting caught? That makes me sick to my stomach 😕

This happens quite a bit on the BX15. I don't ride it a lot, but nearly everytime I do, rampant fare-beating..... This one time I counted 9 people coming in through the back door (D60HF) like it was a supermarket, and the BX36 is no better.

[Armandito]

1 hour ago, Missabassie said:

This happens quite a bit on the BX15. I don't ride it a lot, but nearly everytime I do, rampant fare-beating..... This one time I counted 9 people coming in through the back door (D60HF) like it was a supermarket, and the BX36 is no better.

If the Bx15 and Bx36 were both SBS routes, fare beating would go down, and I say this because that's when you get surprise fare inspectors to see if each individual passenger has paid a fare, and you can never anticipate when and where they'll see you. Those who either have a suspicious receipt or don't have one at all get escorted off the bus and cited.

If I'm not mistaken my mom once told me that an entire River LINE train in NJ had to be taken out of service because so many passengers didn't pay their fares before boarding. Perhaps the same could happen with SBS buses? Probably...

Edited December 20, 2018 by lara8710

[Jdog14]

5 minutes ago, lara8710 said:

If the Bx15 and Bx36 were both SBS routes, fare beating would go down, and I say this because that's when you get surprise fare inspectors to see if each individual passenger has paid a fare, and you can never anticipate when and where they'll see you. Those who either have a suspicious receipt or don't have one at all get escorted off the bus and cited.

If I'm not mistaken my mom once told me that an entire River LINE train in NJ had to be taken out of service because so many passengers didn't pay their fares before boarding. Perhaps the same could happen with SBS buses? Probably...

Farebeating would rise. When word gets out the inspectors are out people will pay or take others tickets. All other times most folks wouldn't pay

[Lil 57]

There starting to put farebeating ads on the buses. Most times the're the only ad.