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31 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Also first Cuomo-schemed bus to get in a REALLY BAD ACCIDENT and first bus in general to suffer MAJOR DAMAGE since 7430 was involved in last years collision in Flushing Chinatown. According to the daily news, here is the damage to the front:

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And you would think that these LFSA "Smart" buses would be able to withstand frontal collisions after claiming to exceed APTA's White Book crash worthiness requirements, but I guess not. Looks like the Smart bus name was a little bit exaggerated. Time to redo the crash-worthiness test APTA.

When you're hit by a firetruck moving at speed, it doesn't matter the bus model or the credentials, the bus is going to be heavily damaged

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52 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Also first Cuomo-schemed bus to get in a REALLY BAD ACCIDENT and first bus in general to suffer MAJOR DAMAGE since 7430 was involved in last years collision in Flushing Chinatown. According to the daily news, here is the damage to the front:

 

And you would think that these LFSA "Smart" buses would be able to withstand frontal collisions after claiming to exceed APTA's White Book crash worthiness requirements, but I guess not. Looks like the Smart bus name was a little bit exaggerated. Time to redo the crash-worthiness test APTA.

 

It's not like the bus is a tank. Fiberglass will tear away no matter what hits it. 

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1 hour ago, Ultimategamer12c said:

Any news on the 2019 XD60s ? I heard FB and Hale was getting them but some 4700s was gonna go to Hale to push out some Novas 

Check the fleet and depots thread. Also do a search as well.

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14 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

There's no Limited service on Staten Island execpt for the S89 and S93, do these routes make local stops when Limited service is suspended?

 

11 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

On the website it says that no LTD service is running. earlier this morning did it mention specifically that the S89 and S93 would continue to run?

What they mean is that the limited-stop buses will make all of the corresponding local stops. They mentioned it multiple times on the announcements this morning "If you're a 98, you're doing a 48, if you're a 96 you're doing a 46, if you're an 84 you're doing a 74. The 93 is considered it's own separate route so you can skip stops". (Not sure why they mentioned the PM-only S84 during the AM rush unless they knew ahead of time they were planning on doing it the whole day. Honestly by the PM rush, service seemed to be back to normal). The S89 & S93 are always considered their own separate routes (so on "reduced weekday service" days when limited-stop service doesn't operate, the S89 & S93 still run, but from what I recall the S93 runs a reduced schedule).

This morning I saw some posts about the SIM4X being cancelled (which makes sense because if there's missing buses, it's better to have them missing from the SIM4X than the regular SIM4, because everyone along the route can use the regular SIM4, but only people at Marsh Avenue & Westport Street can use the SIM4X)

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1 hour ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Also first Cuomo-schemed bus to get in a REALLY BAD ACCIDENT and first bus in general to suffer MAJOR DAMAGE since 7430 was involved in last years collision in Flushing Chinatown. According to the daily news, here is the damage to the front:

2000

And you would think that these LFSA "Smart" buses would be able to withstand frontal collisions after claiming to exceed APTA's White Book crash worthiness requirements, but I guess not. Looks like the Smart bus name was a little bit exaggerated. Time to redo the crash-worthiness test APTA.

Im guessing you don't know how firetrucks work.

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I thought 9505 was in a major accident? So wouldn't that bus be the first "Cuomo" bus to have a major accident? For some weird reason pics never leaked 9505 after its accident.

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11 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

I thought 9505 was in a major accident? So wouldn't that bus be the first "Cuomo" bus to have a major accident? For some weird reason pics never leaked 9505 after its accident.

 

Someone may have posted the picture here, and the damage didn't cause any injuries 

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1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

I think the worst accident has to be that Chinese Bus-MTA Bus Collison in Queens.

Caused the death of a passenger on that bus, which was written off.

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9 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I dont mean to bug you, but how many buses other then 5477 got into a bad accident yesterday.

5477 is not completely destroyed for one. It's a Nova, built in modules exactly like the RTS. As of right now it appears that the frame is in tact, and it will return to service at some point. Even if the frame is not in tact, the entire front section of the bus can be replaced. There were no fatalities as well, so the bus should return to service after a bit of work. 

My prelim reports show about 14 artics that are damaged, many of them having the articulated joints ripped open. We had a few bus-on-bus accidents including a pair of brand new 2018 LFS'. One slid into the other on a turn and they hit each other at the artic joint. All I can say is thank God it's Saturday. The shops are full from ZA to EC to GA and EN with pending repairs. 

3 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

I thought 9505 was in a major accident? So wouldn't that bus be the first "Cuomo" bus to have a major accident? For some weird reason pics never leaked 9505 after its accident.

That wasn't a major accident. I have a couple pics. A 2015 XD40 ran into the back of it. It should be out of the shop in short order. However, it may take a bit of time for it to come back because New Flyer will have to either repair it themselves, or supervise the repair of the bus because it is still under warranty. BAE will probably want to take a look at it as well seeing as this is a pilot fleet.

NOTE TO ALL: BAE is pronounced like B.A.E. I've heard quite a few people calling the company BAE (pronounced "Bay") like a term of endearment. It's British Aerospace Engineering to be exact.  

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5 hours ago, East New York said:

5477 is not completely destroyed for one. It's a Nova, built in modules exactly like the RTS. As of right now it appears that the frame is in tact, and it will return to service at some point. Even if the frame is not in tact, the entire front section of the bus can be replaced. There were no fatalities as well, so the bus should return to service after a bit of work. 

My prelim reports show about 14 artics that are damaged, many of them having the articulated joints ripped open. We had a few bus-on-bus accidents including a pair of brand new 2018 LFS'. One slid into the other on a turn and they hit each other at the artic joint. All I can say is thank God it's Saturday. The shops are full from ZA to EC to GA and EN with pending repairs. 

That wasn't a major accident. I have a couple pics. A 2015 XD40 ran into the back of it. It should be out of the shop in short order. However, it may take a bit of time for it to come back because New Flyer will have to either repair it themselves, or supervise the repair of the bus because it is still under warranty. BAE will probably want to take a look at it as well seeing as this is a pilot fleet.

NOTE TO ALL: BAE is pronounced like B.A.E. I've heard quite a few people calling the company BAE (pronounced "Bay") like a term of endearment. It's British Aerospace Engineering to be exact.  

That's an actual company? I honestly though some of these fans were actually calling buses "bae" lol

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On 11/16/2018 at 12:10 PM, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

What are you talking about? That is an absolute lie.  They run until midnight.  You need to get your facts straight. I've been living here for over six years and have taken them at various hours. In fact it came last night at 10:30 after service had been temporarily suspended.

You don’t really have to get all upset about it, all I was doing was messing with your brains a little bit since you said that you use Uber after a certain time of day. Cars like this are only good for only if you missed your last bus of the day. But be careful. One day, you may not have the money for car drivers, then it’s back to the old drawing board: using public transportation. This is why I don’t use Uber/LYFT because some people just drain your money from your wallet. I’ll wait until the train of my choosing comes then get on. It doesn’t matter what time of day it is. 

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1 hour ago, FLX9304 said:

You don’t really have to get all upset about it, all I was doing was messing with your brains a little bit since you said that you use Uber after a certain time of day. Cars like this are only good for only if you missed your last bus of the day. But be careful. One day, you may not have the money for car drivers, then it’s back to the old drawing board: using public transportation. This is why I don’t use Uber/LYFT because some people just drain your money from your wallet. I’ll wait until the train of my choosing comes then get on. It doesn’t matter what time of day it is. 

I don’t know what you’re talking about, and I don’t think you know either...

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2 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

Does anyone have / could DM me a list of the names of the shuttle routes on BusTime?

The (L) train shuttles are:

L0202 Myrte to Lorimer

L0719 Beford to Lorimer via Marcy (J)(M)

L1227 Myrtle to Bway Junction

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23 minutes ago, Train92 said:

The (L) train shuttles are:

L0202 Myrte to Lorimer

L0719 Beford to Lorimer via Marcy (J)(M)

L1227 Myrtle to Bway Junction

Didn’t work on my side. 

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19 minutes ago, mine248 said:

Didn’t work on my side. 

On the BusTime website they work as "BJ-MW", "MW-ML", and "BEDLOOP".

 

Are there any more for other shuttles or are those just the only trackable ones now? I remember someone mentioning a few trackable shuttle routes a long time ago but I want to start compiling a list of them just cause

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1 Road Call! Lol. Never seen An XD40 on Church Avenue. 

22 hours ago, aemoreira81 said:

Caused the death of a passenger on that bus, which was written off.

Wasn’t it 2 passengers on the bus, the Chinese bus operator, and a pedestrian that died? 

11 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

Yeah, BAE has been around for ages. They used to make planes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems

They still make parts and electronic systems for planes. They power the F-35 lightening as well. The BAE Systems hybrid is made based off turbine engine technology and design philosophy. 

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39 minutes ago, mine248 said:

Didn’t work on my side. 

Im going off for the Transit Tracker app for Android so try that 

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I'm curious what SIM routes people have used so far. I've personally used the SIM2, SIM3, SIM3C, SIM4, SIM4C, SIM6, SIM8, SIM25, SIM26, SIM30, SIM32, and SIM33 (with the SIM4 and SIM8 being my primary routes).

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Just now, checkmatechamp13 said:

I'm curious what SIM routes people have used so far. I've personally used the SIM2, SIM3, SIM3C, SIM4, SIM4C, SIM6, SIM8, SIM25, SIM26, SIM30, SIM32, and SIM33 (with the SIM4 and SIM8 being my primary routes).

For me, it would be the SIM2, and SIM25.

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On 11/16/2018 at 5:16 PM, Brillant93 said:

I’ve seen the pictures and my god how bad it was. They said they were equipped with all weathered tires but I don’t think they had much effect. On top of that would you say that nova artics don’t do well in the snow? 

As Cait said I’m general artics, should not be out in the snow. However there is a VERY little known fact that I will point out for the first time. 

New Flyer artics have 10 tires. 

Nova artics have 8 which provides for a much smoother ride and this will over all make the bus last longer. However, you couldn’t pay me to drive one in the snow. The center axel had 1 tire on each side that is wider than a standard tire. This automatically reduces traction to near 0. On turns, pulling in and out of stops is going to disable these twice as fast as a New Flyer which has a lot more rubber trying to contact the pavement. 

On 11/16/2018 at 8:07 PM, JeremiahC99 said:

Also first Cuomo-schemed bus to get in a REALLY BAD ACCIDENT and first bus in general to suffer MAJOR DAMAGE since 7430 was involved in last years collision in Flushing Chinatown. According to the daily news, here is the damage to the front:

2000

And you would think that these LFSA "Smart" buses would be able to withstand frontal collisions after claiming to exceed APTA's White Book crash worthiness requirements, but I guess not. Looks like the Smart bus name was a little bit exaggerated. Time to redo the crash-worthiness test APTA.

Boy If you don’t sit your ass down somewhere! Like really? I’ve had it. You are getting out of hand, and what you are doing is considered slander. You are speaking on something which you know nothing of. Prelim reports say the frame is fine.

Excuse my language again everyone, but no one asked for your damn non-factor ass OPINION.  I however am a mechanic, Transit Consultant, bus owner and business owner. Leave this shit to us professionals please. You don’t even need to comment other than an apology to Novabus and APTA. How dare you. 

And in the words of the MTA, “It is under investigation.” 

Carry on and again, excuse my language but I’m done being nice and politically correct. Final warning. Suspension is next. And you will NOT be notified. 

As far as 9505 I’m sick and tired of those rumors too. Stop with the assumptions people. You all are NOT reading either. I commented on 5477 and 9505 in more than one thread. Who TF started the rumor it was totaled???? I’ve have pics forever, as in from the moment it happened. Several angles, day and night. I just decided to watch, read, take notes, to look at you people make shit up. It stops NOW! 

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