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4 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

This weekend's (J) shuttle is operated by the Brooklyn Division. Flatbush is currently short on artics because of these recent moves and they haven't gotten anything back, and Jackie Gleason has yet to put any of their artics on any shuttles.

For now, they received a few XD-60s from the 2017 series (below 6128). 6113 is one of them. There was a mentioning that they are getting these units as the newer 6100s are at Quill. 

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I rode the B91/92 today.

I was the only passenger on the B92. And on the B91, only one other person got on at the Plaza, and promptly got off at Lorimer.

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I feel like these L train shuttle things aren't as needed as before. Unlike the original plan when the L train was going to be shutdown from manhattan to Brooklyn most people are going to use the other subway options to get to Brooklyn. 

 

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15 minutes ago, GojiMet86 said:

I rode the B91/92 today.

I was the only passenger on the B92. And on the B91, only one other person got on at the Plaza, and promptly got off at Lorimer.

 

1 minute ago, Brillant93 said:

I feel like these L train shuttle things aren't as needed as before. Unlike the original plan when the L train was going to be shutdown from manhattan to Brooklyn most people are going to use the other subway options to get to Brooklyn. 

 

They've been like that for a while now. However, the B91 between Bedford and Marcy tends to get more riders. Since the B/Os have the assignments until the end of the pick, the service may be curtailed this coming summer. 

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Am I the only one that's bothered by the uneven scheduling of B103 buses from Flatbush Avenue, particularly on weekdays? (It starts out okay, but then becomes increasingly uneven from the afternoon until sometime in the evening.)

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5 hours ago, Lex said:

Am I the only one that's bothered by the uneven scheduling of B103 buses from Flatbush Avenue, particularly on weekdays? (It starts out okay, but then becomes increasingly uneven from the afternoon until sometime in the evening.)

I'm honestly more bothered with (actual) B103 service from Downtown, say, around the 6-8 pm slot... Buses don't leave Tillary at a 12-15 min clip; matter fact, they tend to leave Tillary, whenever - and it's irritating as all hell.... You would think that when you see 2 (or even 3) buses approaching the layover area by the subway elevator (Cadman Plz/Montague), that 1 of them would immediately drop off w/e pax. & start making the trip back towards Canarsie....

Nope.... Instead, 1 of those buses would go OOS & the other bus(es) would take their layovers & you have no idea how long they're going to be either.....

When I see that happen, I smirk & start making my way towards the B41 stop along Cadman plz....

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50 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

I'm honestly more bothered with (actual) B103 service from Downtown, say, around the 6-8 pm slot... Buses don't leave Tillary at a 12-15 min clip; matter fact, they tend to leave Tillary, whenever - and it's irritating as all hell.... You would think that when you see 2 (or even 3) buses approaching the layover area by the subway elevator (Cadman Plz/Montague), that 1 of them would immediately drop off w/e pax. & start making the trip back towards Canarsie....

Nope.... Instead, 1 of those buses would go OOS & the other bus(es) would take their layovers & you have no idea how long they're going to be either.....

When I see that happen, I smirk & start making my way towards the B41 stop along Cadman plz....

Personally, I wouldn't be so quick to do that without relief. Going between Canarsie and Downtown Brooklyn in just one direction is already hell (and I say this as someone who's never operated a bus or truck but has used or considered the B103 multiple times), and immediately going back without so much as a break would likely breed more tension with the unions.

That's not to say that I disagree with the general notion.

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10 hours ago, Lex said:

Am I the only one that's bothered by the uneven scheduling of B103 buses from Flatbush Avenue, particularly on weekdays? (It starts out okay, but then becomes increasingly uneven from the afternoon until sometime in the evening.)

At this point the B103 makes too many stops. It feels more or less like a local route with a nonstop portion. 

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5 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I'm honestly more bothered with (actual) B103 service from Downtown, say, around the 6-8 pm slot... Buses don't leave Tillary at a 12-15 min clip; matter fact, they tend to leave Tillary, whenever - and it's irritating as all hell.... You would think that when you see 2 (or even 3) buses approaching the layover area by the subway elevator (Cadman Plz/Montague), that 1 of them would immediately drop off w/e pax. & start making the trip back towards Canarsie....

Nope.... Instead, 1 of those buses would go OOS & the other bus(es) would take their layovers & you have no idea how long they're going to be either.....

When I see that happen, I smirk & start making my way towards the B41 stop along Cadman plz....

Also, the spacing between a bus going the full route and a short-turn are weird. for most of the PM rush hour (3:30-6 PM) Carnise short-turns arrive 2 minutes after a bus from downtown arrived, then a 5 min wait for the next bus.

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1 hour ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

At this point the B103 makes too many stops. It feels more or less like a local route with a nonstop portion. 

.... and this is what happens when Command Bus is taken over by the (MTA). All those 3rd and 4th Avenue stops are severely under utilized and that's slowing the service.

It's unnecessary to have these stops on 4th Avenue and 3rd Avenue and no one is using them.

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2 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

.... and this is what happens when Command Bus is taken over by the (MTA). All those 3rd and 4th Avenue stops are severely under utilized and that's slowing the service.

It's unnecessary to have these stops on 4th Avenue and 3rd Avenue and no one is using them.

That response seems rather familiar. It reminds me of someone who was bitten by a spider...

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5 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

At this point the B103 makes too many stops. It feels more or less like a local route with a nonstop portion. 

4 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

.... and this is what happens when Command Bus is taken over by the (MTA). All those 3rd and 4th Avenue stops are severely under utilized and that's slowing the service.

It's unnecessary to have these stops on 4th Avenue and 3rd Avenue and no one is using them.

Unpopular statement: The B103 between Canarsie & the Junction is the slowest part of the route (of course, it's also by far the most utilized part of the route)....

I say that to say, I personally don't mind the 3rd/4th av stops; well because there's a] not much of them & b] as was alluded to, not much cumulative usage on them....

Honestly, when I do use the B103 from Downtown nowadays, I either [disembark at Cortelyou/E. 18th & walk all the way home], or [disembark at E 3rd/Church to xfer for the B35].... Eventually got fed up with the crawl along Flatbush av, the bombardment of riders/increased dwell time at the Junction, & if that weren't enough (just to finally get to Utica), the waits for the B46 local after a certain hour (I'd say around 7pm or so, NB) kept getting increasingly worse (this was before they started B46 SBS service).... Dollar van service was practically nonexistent & if one would actually show up, by time it got to av. H, it was packed - and I wasn't sitting on the "hump" (the spot immediately above the right rear tire) either.... F*** that!!

Some of what was just said in the above paragraph was also a reason I started gunning more for the BM1 over the BM2 for the commute home (when I worked in Manhattan)....

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On 5/11/2019 at 12:10 PM, Lil 57 said:

So the new SI novas have the "bus is turning" announcement. It'll be a matter of time before SI'ers complain.

I agree I called it a while back when that gets to si they will complain

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I got to share our a few of my ideas at an Open House for the Queens Bus Redesign today. It was quite interesting too. Some people were writing ideas on post it notes. 

Some people were advocating for extended hours on the Q30/31.

others asked for better bus stop placements and Better Queens-Brooklyn Connections. 

One person asked for a bus route that covers the service roads near the BQE. 

Another person wrote that the (MTA) should take the Q23 off Austin Street and reroute it down Yellowstone Blvd to speed up runtimes.

I threw in My fair Share of ideas too like the Q38 split and Simplying the Q59 in Brooklyn. 

Overall, it was fun. 

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58 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

What are those cameras used for on the back of the New Nova buses?

Used to identify crimes near the bus and to ticket vehicles illegally using bus lanes.

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12 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Used to identify crimes near the bus and to ticket vehicles illegally using bus lanes.

Wonder if the (MTA) is going to add that feature to their older buses as well.

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9 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

Looks like the (MTA) used some common sense and closed BusTrek from public access.

I mean I don't even know why they have it considering the dispatchers never use it. :lol:

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The B82 sbs has gotten bad recently. Wait times are longer and I’m not sure if it’s because of the recent pick. Literally last month the wait times for it wasn’t bad at all it was 10 minutes off peak and 6-9 during rush hour. Now I’m waiting for the bus and there’s a 25 minute gap for the sbs the locals are running better than the sbs. Not sure what happened. 

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38 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

The B82 sbs has gotten bad recently. Wait times are longer and I’m not sure if it’s because of the recent pick. Literally last month the wait times for it wasn’t bad at all it was 10 minutes off peak and 6-9 during rush hour. Now I’m waiting for the bus and there’s a 25 minute gap for the sbs the locals are running better than the sbs. Not sure what happened. 

Sometimes there is no control with the traffic. Some of you guys need to practice patience. That’s the luxury of public transportation. Not everything will be on your side. There is the luxury of being in your car and not having to deal with subpar bus service. 

But also that’s something East New York needs to fix or else you will have people on that side of Midwood complaining and b***ching about the 82SBS and I know East New York does not want a Quill situation to where Flatbush takes all the SBS routes and they get stuck with peanuts. 

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13 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

Sometimes there is no control with the traffic. Some of you guys need to practice patience. That’s the luxury of public transportation. Not everything will be on your side. There is the luxury of being in your car and not having to deal with subpar bus service. 

But also that’s something East New York needs to fix or else you will have people on that side of Midwood complaining and b***ching about the 82SBS and I know East New York does not want a Quill situation to where Flatbush takes all the SBS routes and they get stuck with peanuts. 

I understand traffic plays a part but i take the B82 regularly everyday. Usually during the last pick I always caught it around the same time and recognized the same driver. The buses are now more so jammed packed before it hits Utica and flatlands. The locals are more so the better option now. But again the B82 sbs wasn’t like this a month or two ago. 

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34 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

I understand traffic plays a part but i take the B82 regularly everyday. Usually during the last pick I always caught it around the same time and recognized the same driver. The buses are now more so jammed packed before it hits Utica and flatlands. The locals are more so the better option now. But again the B82 sbs wasn’t like this a month or two ago. 

Fam. Let’s realize something here. These drivers are very much restricted to what they can do in regards to speed and reliability. All this vision zero messed everything up. 

Whether your bus is packed or not there will always be an issue. Transportation is not instant gratification. I’ve bet you heard the saying: You must allow extra time for your commute or just simply leave a bit earlier to get where you are going. 

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