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On 6/6/2019 at 2:00 PM, 4P3607 said:

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This personally rips my heart out. Such a sad sight to see. 6365 and 6489 are here too but this wouldn't cooperate adding the photos.

 

For some reason 8971 and 9006 are still there. A D60 appears to have been reserved too (117 or 127) all the way in the back. That red Triboro Fishbowl I didn't see back there anymore...

The amount of 6300s - 6400s there kills me though lol

Thank you for your photo. It makes me absolutely sad inside as I love these buses. As an operator over at MHV, I would always prefer a 6 series bus over a 3 series just because of how good of a drive theyre. Most of those buses run pretty damn good still.

But it was a day we all knew it was going to happen soon.

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I was reading a 1953-1954 transit authority report and came across this (direct quote):

 

Bus Terminal At Main Street, Flushing

Plans for a Flushing bus terminal with an underground connection to the Main Street Terminal Station of the Flushing Line, IRT Division are under study and consideration by the Authority and the Board of Estimate.

A firm of real estate developers, has proposed to construct and turn over to the City a $4,000,000 bus terminal consisting of a basement and two-story bus terminal building at Roosevelt Avenue and Union Street, Flushing. A $1,500,000 subsurface passageway 1,000 feet in length with a moving sidewalk, or “speedwalk” would extend under Roosevelt Avenue from the proposed bus terminal to the Main Street subway station.

 

it goes on but the info isn’t really relevant to the design.

obviously it wasn’t built, but what killed this plan?

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2 minutes ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said:

Wow. I've heard of MCIs on SI routes, but not Prevosts. Also, do they still charge $2.75? Or is it $6.50?

It's still $2.75. How much you get charged depends on if the farebox is signed up for a local/limited or express route.

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38 minutes ago, Orion6025 said:

I was reading a 1953-1954 transit authority report and came across this (direct quote):

 

Bus Terminal At Main Street, Flushing

Plans for a Flushing bus terminal with an underground connection to the Main Street Terminal Station of the Flushing Line, IRT Division are under study and consideration by the Authority and the Board of Estimate.

A firm of real estate developers, has proposed to construct and turn over to the City a $4,000,000 bus terminal consisting of a basement and two-story bus terminal building at Roosevelt Avenue and Union Street, Flushing. A $1,500,000 subsurface passageway 1,000 feet in length with a moving sidewalk, or “speedwalk” would extend under Roosevelt Avenue from the proposed bus terminal to the Main Street subway station.

 

it goes on but the info isn’t really relevant to the design.

obviously it wasn’t built, but what killed this plan?

I believe merchants killed it because they feared that they would lose business if subway and bus passengers were able to transfer conveniently between the two underground without having to go through the streets and sidewalks.

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1 minute ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said:

Wow. I've heard of MCIs on SI routes, but not Prevosts. Also, do they still charge $2.75? Or is it $6.50?

It's still $2.75. The B/O sets the farebox to the local fare. 

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1 hour ago, JeremiahC99 said:

I believe merchants killed it because they feared that they would lose business if subway and bus passengers were able to transfer conveniently between the two underground without having to go through the streets and sidewalks.

Suppose that’s possible. A shame they screwed over generations but it is what it is I guess.

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1 hour ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said:

Today, I saw a BxM bus (I think it was a BxM1) coming off the Henry Hudson Pkwy at Dyckman St, except MTA buses are not allowed on the Henry Hudson Pkwy. What happened?

MTA Buses use the Henry Hudson to deadhead all the time, sometimes they put up the route sign while on the deadhead route. For example I'd see BM3's running down Flatlands in Canarsie even though the BM3 runs no where near there (SC buses deadhead down Flatlands Ave).

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19 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

MTA Buses use the Henry Hudson to deadhead all the time, sometimes they put up the route sign while on the deadhead route. For example I'd see BM3's running down Flatlands in Canarsie even though the BM3 runs no where near there (SC buses deadhead down Flatlands Ave).

Yes, but where would it be deadheading to?

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1 hour ago, Orion6025 said:

Suppose that’s possible. A shame they screwed over generations but it is what it is I guess.

I agree that they screwed over everyone. However, the Northeast Queens Bus Study of 2015 did include a recommendation for a Downtown Flushing Bus Terminal as a long term solution for the areas traffic woes. New land would have to be found, but I believe that they could include a possibility of the local businesses to move in there. If the MTA would allow the local merchants to move into this new bus terminal with the same rent they currently pay, then maybe some of the complaints can be quelled.

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1 hour ago, QM1to6Ave said:

MTA wifi on all buses seems to be down once again, at least since yesterday. 

It worked on one of the Q111 buses I rode today. 

Speaking of the Q111, those buses flow like a broken levee. The only local/limited corridor that the MTA hasn't screwed over the local. The Q113/Q114 is a different story though. Both routes are unreliable (the Q113 more than the Q114). I would take The Q111, if it ran into the Rockaway, but obviously that's not the case.

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12 hours ago, DetSMART45 said:

I could see them saying "no ads" on any of the 2017/2018/2019s, but purely for the added cash in the pocket, everything else should be fair game, AND better coordinate with Outfront to get them on the street.

Outfront just came out with a new front ad size that fits the Xcelsiors and 2011 Prevosts (which have the license plate in different spot from the 2016s which can fit the normal size) so I think they're starting to move away from that mindset.

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Speaking of that ''Please pay the fare'' advert, I've been noticing a helluva lot more people not paying. These folks just brazenly walk past the B/O, not a word.

City's gone to da dogs I tell yaz....

 

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