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1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

Does anyone think the D60HF's will be reactivated and put back on the roster because of all these route artic conversions?

The D60s don't exist anymore, they have all been chopped up and turned into soda cans already.

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With KB losing their XD60s to GA and now presumedly WF, you do you guys think that KB would get some new Artics instead of the 12XX hand-me-downs from MCH?

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35 minutes ago, NBTA said:

With KB losing their XD60s to GA and now presumedly WF, you do you guys think that KB would get some new Artics instead of the 12XX hand-me-downs from MCH?

They’re most likely going to get the lfsa from hale. 

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1 hour ago, NBTA said:

With KB losing their XD60s to GA and now presumedly WF, you do you guys think that KB would get some new Artics instead of the 12XX hand-me-downs from MCH?

They could also end up getting LFS Buses from Tuskegee Airmen Depot as well once they get their XD60s from MTA Bus. I attached a spreadsheet below that shows the potential assignments of the fleet to make service:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_B8Hu1hRaZ4hjToejxvy-FDPlBGSxEn3k_sW1-Vfc64

Note that it may be somewhat inaccurate due to not taking into account buses lost in accidents, buses not ordered yet, etc.

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54 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

They could also end up getting LFS Buses from Tuskegee Airmen Depot as well once they get their XD60s from MTA Bus. I attached a spreadsheet below that shows the potential assignments of the fleet to make service:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_B8Hu1hRaZ4hjToejxvy-FDPlBGSxEn3k_sW1-Vfc64

Note that it may be somewhat inaccurate due to not taking into account buses lost in accidents, buses not ordered yet, etc.

My only question with this is why are the 50 express buses for NYCB included and not the 251 buses for MTA Bus?

Also you're missing Yonkers in the Bronx depots section. Otherwise this is great.

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26 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

My only question with this is why are the 50 express buses for NYCB included and not the 251 buses for MTA Bus?

Also you're missing Yonkers in the Bronx depots section. Otherwise this is great.

I only included the 50 buses for NYCB since I could already guess where some of them could go. Apparently this quote gave it away:

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Additionally, the MTA is also in the process of procuring 50 new coach (express) buses that will be put into Staten Island express bus service in 2021.

For the other 257 buses, assignments for now can be quite a mystery, and we have to deal with around 475 MCIs. However, I do except all 257 of them to be at MTA Bus Baisley Park, College Point, and others.

Also, I did not know that I forgot the Yonkers Division for that one. I must’ve overlooked it before I submitted the link. It’s very tedious to do when you need to find places for nearly 5,777 buses to go. I think I didn’t account for some buses here. I’m going to make a few more edits on it as well as time progresses, if I have time since I have other priorities to deal with, and as a 19 year old college student, finding time is difficult, even now when I have a few months off.

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1 hour ago, JeremiahC99 said:

They could also end up getting LFS Buses from Tuskegee Airmen Depot as well once they get their XD60s from MTA Bus. I attached a spreadsheet below that shows the potential assignments of the fleet to make service:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_B8Hu1hRaZ4hjToejxvy-FDPlBGSxEn3k_sW1-Vfc64

Note that it may be somewhat inaccurate due to not taking into account buses lost in accidents, buses not ordered yet, etc.

Swap the Q52 and the Q53, missing the B44-SBS and possibly the local, but besides that, nice spreadsheet.

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On express buses, for example, if a SIM1 to the Transit Center has all seats full with a few standees at the last few pickup stops in Manhattan, are they allow to stand on the bus or have to wait for the next one during the rush hour?

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6 minutes ago, Calvin said:

On express buses, for example, if a SIM1 to the Transit Center has all seats full with a few standees at the last few pickup stops in Manhattan, are they allow to stand on the bus or have to wait for the next one during the rush hour?

They are allowed to stand, I remember i took an SIM26, jammed packed, and the driver allowed such standees to do what they are designed to do, stand. 

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24 minutes ago, Calvin said:

On express buses, for example, if a SIM1 to the Transit Center has all seats full with a few standees at the last few pickup stops in Manhattan, are they allow to stand on the bus or have to wait for the next one during the rush hour?

 

If you saw the SIM10 during the early days you would have your answer lol

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Why doesn't the (MTA) follow NJT's steps and put a "Standing Room Only" sign up on the express buses when all the seats are taken?

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So this is probably a really dumb question, but is there a reason why articulated buses don't have the wheels in the articulated section, similar to how some trams have the bogies in the articulation themselves?

 

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(Also, does anyone know where I can find good interior shots of a Select Bus Service bus? I want to use some for a blog post.)

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3 hours ago, JeremiahC99 said:

They could also end up getting LFS Buses from Tuskegee Airmen Depot as well once they get their XD60s from MTA Bus. I attached a spreadsheet below that shows the potential assignments of the fleet to make service:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_B8Hu1hRaZ4hjToejxvy-FDPlBGSxEn3k_sW1-Vfc64

Note that it may be somewhat inaccurate due to not taking into account buses lost in accidents, buses not ordered yet, etc.

So is East New York isn’t getting Artics ?

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2 hours ago, Calvin said:

On express buses, for example, if a SIM1 to the Transit Center has all seats full with a few standees at the last few pickup stops in Manhattan, are they allow to stand on the bus or have to wait for the next one during the rush hour?

 

2 hours ago, NBTA said:

They are allowed to stand, I remember i took an SIM26, jammed packed, and the driver allowed such standees to do what they are designed to do, stand. 

 

2 hours ago, Jdog14 said:

 

If you saw the SIM10 during the early days you would have your answer lol

Unless it changed, the actual rule is that unless it is the last bus of the day, there cannot be standees. However, that isn't really followed, partially because the B/O has a schedule to keep and will not have the time to actively take a count of seats. 

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11 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Does anyone think the D60HF's will be reactivated and put back on the roster because of all these route artic conversions?

Not when a vast majority of them are off of MTA property and shredded up.

4 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

Why doesn't the (MTA) follow NJT's steps and put a "Standing Room Only" sign up on the express buses when all the seats are taken?

Not even NJT follows that at times lmao.

4 hours ago, Kingjunior34 said:

So is East New York isn’t getting Artics ?

That one we're gonna have to wait on. ENY was supposed to get artics for the B15 and B82, but that's been put on hold from what I hear.

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Right because the focus now is Bronx or Manhattan needs get there artics first before Brooklyn and I'm surprised that B44SBS is the only articulated route in Brooklyn. Meanwhile Manhattan, Bronx and Queens has a lot of artics route.

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1 hour ago, bwwnyc123 said:

Right because the focus now is Bronx or Manhattan needs get there artics first before Brooklyn and I'm surprised that B44SBS is the only articulated route in Brooklyn. Meanwhile Manhattan, Bronx and Queens has a lot of artics route.

Brooklyn has two artic routes, B44 and the B35, with the B38 coming up soon. Also the B46 sbs is going artic part time in future along with the B15 and B82. We’ll just gonna have to wait and see till next summer when we have the buses come back from mta bus and when the L train construction work is completed. 

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11 hours ago, Kingjunior34 said:

So is East New York isn’t getting Artics ?

The priority now is the Q12, so East NY getting artics is on hold.

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28 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

The priority now is the Q12, so East NY getting artics is on hold.

ENY isn’t ready for artics just yet. They will be next summer as the plan has always been. CS which houses the Q12 is artic ready but as of now ENY depot isn’t. That’s always been the plan since last year. Don’t worry Brooklyn will get it’s articulated routes in due time. 

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21 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

ENY isn’t ready for artics just yet. They will be next summer as the plan has always been. CS which houses the Q12 is artic ready but as of now ENY depot isn’t. That’s always been the plan since last year. Don’t worry Brooklyn will get it’s articulated routes in due time. 

I’m not worried about that, and yes, I know that they will come next summer. However, I feel that the B15 EN route to go artic since the B82 SBS needs to have new blue and gold buses.

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So last week while I was coming back from Midtown I took an M2 4252 and it was signed up as M2 Worth St via 5av/Bowery anyone know why? I've seen it on 2 buses already 

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13 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

Why doesn't the (MTA) follow NJT's steps and put a "Standing Room Only" sign up on the express buses when all the seats are taken?

It's not the deterrent for a potential rider to not board a bus that's SRO that one might think....

I don't blame the MTA for not having its b/o's be bothered with that...

8 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

Not even NJT follows that at times lmao.

(For its actual intended purpose), it's a waste of time.... People will (and do) attempt to cram onto those MCI's anyway.... I was done when I was on a #319 one time, where dude was sitting in the walkway.... Whenever someone had to use the bathroom, he had to get up out the way (bumping into the row of seating I & some other dude was sitting in).... Highly annoying.

Ironically & personally, when I see NJT's w/ the standing room only signage, I assume that there's NO standing room on the bus.... In other words, I prepare to get flagged.

 

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16 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

599 was on the Q53 a few moments ago.

That was 5990. 

 

5987, 5991 and 5993 are working the Q53 right now. 

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2 minutes ago, 4P3607 said:

That was 5990. 

 

5987, 5991 and 5993 are working the Q53 right now. 

No, 599 (C40LF) was on the Q53 last night. I saw it turn off Woodhaven Boulevard onto Queens Boulevard myself.

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