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1 hour ago, aemoreira81 said:

8727 in service without an OMNY pay point. Why? (If someone came on expecting to use that, what would the B/O say?)

They don't hit OMNY installs til the overnight. It's already flagged to get installed ASAP.

And it's a free ride, btw. I had 8711 with no OMNY. 

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5 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

They don't hit OMNY installs til the overnight. It's already flagged to get installed ASAP.

And it's a free ride, btw. I had 8711 with no OMNY. 

Wow...such a "crucial program" to move NYC forward, and through the swap program, having OMNY installed wasn't a priority before putting into revenue service? Imagine.

Besides, who on the Island even cares about OMNY (well, except Express Bus customers)? Those OMNY boxes aren't at the back door anyway.

And paying fare ........ what's that?

/sarcasm

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6 minutes ago, DetSMART45 said:

Wow...such a "crucial program" to move NYC forward, and through the swap program, having OMNY installed wasn't a priority before putting into revenue service? Imagine.

Besides, who on the Island even cares about OMNY (well, except Express Bus customers)? Those OMNY boxes aren't at the back door anyway.

And paying fare ........ what's that?

/sarcasm

They’re transitioning into OMNY which will take a few years and by that point they will be installed on all buses. You can’t expect them to instal an OMNY reader on a bus when most riders still have metro cards. Also Metrocards are still the main payment option so OMNY isn’t a priority when putting a bus into service. Staten Island is just the testing phase for it. 

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17 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

They’re transitioning into OMNY which will take a few years and by that point they will be installed on all buses. You can’t expect them to instal an OMNY reader on a bus when most riders still have metro cards. Also Metrocards are still the main payment option so OMNY isn’t a priority when putting a bus into service. Staten Island is just the testing phase for it. 

Just NO. If OMNY was such a PRIORITY for testing/implementation on Staten Island, then EVERY BUS in revenue service should have it. If you have new immigrants to the Island from the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens or Manhattan, then before those buses hit the road, OMNY should be installed and operational.

Sure was a priority to remove the coin acceptors off the Express Buses. Practically before the ink completely dried on the paper passed around the conference table, those were removed and word went out: NO MORE COINS!

You can't completely do your "test" borough-wide (which is one of the purposes to begin with) is you don't have near-100% compliance, and that is maintained throughout.

Everyone seems to be conditioned to just accept half-assed anything from this agency. At least the MTA has excelled at that.

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42 minutes ago, DetSMART45 said:

Just NO. If OMNY was such a PRIORITY for testing/implementation on Staten Island, then EVERY BUS in revenue service should have it. If you have new immigrants to the Island from the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens or Manhattan, then before those buses hit the road, OMNY should be installed and operational.

Sure was a priority to remove the coin acceptors off the Express Buses. Practically before the ink completely dried on the paper passed around the conference table, those were removed and word went out: NO MORE COINS!

You can't completely do your "test" borough-wide (which is one of the purposes to begin with) is you don't have near-100% compliance, and that is maintained throughout.

Everyone seems to be conditioned to just accept half-assed anything from this agency. At least the MTA has excelled at that.

It’s still in testing phase my dude. Test means before full implementation. Almost everyone uses metrocards so what is your point? They’re testing it out so why would newer buses have them installed when MAJORITY of New Yorkers use metrocards? 

You’re really taking this too passionately. 

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38 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

It’s still in testing phase my dude. Test means before full implementation. Almost everyone uses metrocards so what is your point? They’re testing it out so why would newer buses have them installed when MAJORITY of New Yorkers use metrocards? 

You’re really taking this too passionately. 

Here's quoting TWICE directly from the horse's mouth:

MTA Launches Public Pilot For OMNY Contactless Fare Payment System – First New Payment System In 25 Years

Press Release -- May 31, 2019

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The public pilot phase of the rollout brings OMNY contactless payments to all Staten Island MTA buses and at all subway station entrances on the (4)(5)(6)  lines between Grand Central-42 St and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr. Initially, OMNY will support a full-fare, pay-per-ride option until all subway stations and bus routes are equipped with the new technology. 

MTA Leadership and Congressman Max Rose Announce New State-of-the-Art Bus Fleet, Contactless Fare Payment System on Staten Island

Press Release -- June 17, 2019

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As part of similar modernization initiatives, the MTA launched a public pilot on May 31 for OMNY, its new contactless fare payment system, to replace the outdated MetroCard technology by 2023. The public pilot included all Staten Island buses, where hundreds of customers are using their own preferred contactless fare payment method to pay fares and speed their entry onto buses without needing to buy a MetroCard or find exact change. Within the first week of the pilot, Staten Island customers using OMNY have far exceeded initial estimates of 800 to 1,500 taps per week.

Yeah, my bad for not understanding MTA officials on how this is supposed to work. <_<

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2 minutes ago, DetSMART45 said:

Here's quoting TWICE directly from the horse's mouth:

MTA Launches Public Pilot For OMNY Contactless Fare Payment System – First New Payment System In 25 Years

Press Release -- May 31, 2019

MTA Leadership and Congressman Max Rose Announce New State-of-the-Art Bus Fleet, Contactless Fare Payment System on Staten Island

Press Release -- June 17, 2019

Yeah, my bad for not understanding MTA officials on how this is supposed to work. <_<

Really? Come on now. Your issue was with one damn bus that didn’t have an OMNY reader on it, and a newly delivered one at that. Again you’re taking this damn seriously, calm down.  

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9 hours ago, aemoreira81 said:

8727 in service without an OMNY pay point. Why? (If someone came on expecting to use that, what would the B/O say?)

I would hope that's just an instance of a bus slipping through the cracks but given that its the MTA I'm not keeping my hopes up...

Ironically some of the XD60s are coming in with the bases installed already.

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5 hours ago, Brillant93 said:

Really? Come on now. Your issue was with one damn bus that didn’t have an OMNY reader on it, and a newly delivered one at that. Again you’re taking this damn seriously, calm down.  

 

In his defense, MTA has hybrids with OMNY bases installed and working, but they decided to mass retire the 63-64xx as priority. Yukon could have kept some of the hybrids with the readers and then when enough buses have the readers installed, then ship them out. This is how I see it anyway. 

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7 hours ago, DetSMART45 said:

You can't completely do your "test" borough-wide (which is one of the purposes to begin with) is you don't have near-100% compliance, and that is maintained throughout.

I honestly don't care if it was on every bus or one solitary bus..... In terms of UAT, I personally don't care for beta testing, myself.... Pre-releasing / half-ass releasing a product for any type of public consumption AFAIC defeats the purpose.... There's just too much volatility in testing something in an uncontrolled environment....

If you, the public, is going to rip (or otherwise critique) my product, it isn't going to be during any developmental phase....

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6 hours ago, DetSMART45 said:

Here's quoting TWICE directly from the horse's mouth:

MTA Launches Public Pilot For OMNY Contactless Fare Payment System – First New Payment System In 25 Years

Press Release -- May 31, 2019

MTA Leadership and Congressman Max Rose Announce New State-of-the-Art Bus Fleet, Contactless Fare Payment System on Staten Island

Press Release -- June 17, 2019

Yeah, my bad for not understanding MTA officials on how this is supposed to work. <_<

The thing is that Cubic Employees do the Installation, not the (MTA) directly. Most of the times these buses go into service to move other buses outside of SI to reitre the buses in the Mainland. OMNY is in a testing phase right now, there is no such priority to shove down every depot's throats. New Buses could even be put into service overnight, we're talking about an un-controlled environment, readers are delivered in bulk, and the work is done by Cubic Employees during their availability. There is a lot of Ethernet, and fiber optics that are installed on a bus before simply receiving a reader, this is a pilot phase so there is no such priority at the moment, and as @SevenEleventhe bus is flagged, and Buses without OMNY the ride is free. People would rather have a bus than nothing, just because it does not have a reader. Transit is not a controlled environment when it comes to pilots and tests, so just take down the notch, these buses will get their OMNY readers installed when they are scheduled to. In the future it will have top priority once it becomes the Main Mode of Fare Payment.

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8 hours ago, Jdog14 said:

 

In his defense, MTA has hybrids with OMNY bases installed and working, but they decided to mass retire the 63-64xx as priority. Yukon could have kept some of the hybrids with the readers and then when enough buses have the readers installed, then ship them out. This is how I see it anyway. 

That wouldn't make much of a difference really. They gotta wait for the Cubic technicians to install them on the buses. So if a bus is needed for service, they're gonna have to send it out regardless.

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As for the whole point of all Staten Island MTA buses on the island having the OMNY readers...that only applied to the buses that were already on the Island at the time, not all the new buses being delivered.....and at that time, Cubic technicians were already on standby on the island installing readers and such on both the local and express buses. The new buses get them a few days after they were delivered and prepped for service, especially since at times, they gotta wait on the Cubic technicians to install the wires and equipment on the buses.

Besides, Staten Island's allotment of new buses is almost complete anyway. All of the new buses have the readers except for like a small handful of buses.

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On 6/8/2019 at 6:02 PM, B35 via Church said:

The strange part though, was when I got off the bus.... Some Jewish lady out of no where attempted to board the bus (at the last stop, 263rd, before the u-turn); didn't think much of it, until I started hearing sobbing noises... I turn back around & the both of them are standing up hugging each other inside the bus, right by the driver's area (not like a loving/erotic embrace, but it was more like a "I haven't seen you in a long time" embrace - either that, or a "I need your help, what a relief" type of embrace).... Overall f***ing weird either way....

I saw this awhile ago and it bothered me. What does her Jewishness have to do with it? Are you an anti-Semite, or just a big mouth who judges other people?

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3 hours ago, Uncle Floyd Fan said:

I saw this awhile ago and it bothered me. What does her Jewishness have to do with it? Are you an anti-Semite, or just a big mouth who judges other people?

Relax....he's none of those. He wasn't being insulting with his tone either.

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Some Bay Ridge observations: Yukon’s s79SBS+ mostly LFS. Didn’t see an NG pop up yet as most of the NG’s are either on local buses or prepped for transfer to Manhattanville and/or Quill. 

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23 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

Some Bay Ridge observations: Yukon’s s79SBS+ mostly LFS. Didn’t see an NG pop up yet as most of the NG’s are either on local buses or prepped for transfer to Manhattanville and/or Quill. 

With Quill I think 4256 and 4266 are there for maintenance just like 4261 and 4268. Those 2 buses might get transferred back to Manhattanville 

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I see some B44SBS buses now start with 58. Anyone know if these have charging ports?

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9 minutes ago, Abba said:

I see some B44SBS buses now start with 58. Anyone know if these have charging ports?

They don't. Only wi-fi on-board. 

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Speaking of "charging ports", Quill was supposed to be getting 15 AEB ports this month, and it's the ending of July. Are there no ports yet ?

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2 hours ago, King Transit said:

Speaking of "charging ports", Quill was supposed to be getting 15 AEB ports this month, and it's the ending of July. Are there no ports yet ?

Why don't you walk inside Quill and find out?

Since apparently, you "work" for the TA.....🤣

They likely got them/are in the phase of getting them. The demo XE60 is supposed to arrive in September/October, with the production buses coming in November/December.

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12 minutes ago, Cait Sith said:

Why don't you walk inside Quill and find out?

Since apparently, you "work" for the TA.....🤣

They likely got them/are in the phase of getting them. The demo XE60 is supposed to arrive in September/October, with the production buses coming in November/December.

I am in Montrèal right now. But I will have to call my uncle, because I just got connected with ENY Depot 2 months ago

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5 minutes ago, Gleasonbus7560 said:

I just got to know what AEB ports stand 4 ?

never heard this before ,King Transit?

I knew that before. But do you know what "AEB" stands for ?

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