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12 minutes ago, Snorunts said:

Forgive me if I sound stupid, but what is “mileage purposes?”

Most of the time, it has to do with balancing out the mileage of fleets. Certain areas are more demanding than others, which decreases the lifetime of a bus. Buses are switched around in order to prevent having retire them earlier. This in turn, allows for larger bus order to be done at the same time, instead of having many small orders and doing the necessary training and evaluations piece by piece.

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3 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

When the majority of their local buses are on the S74/S78, you can safely assume that their buses are up there in mileage as well.

Exactly those buses travel across the borough on a regular. So if Castletons buses are hitting 165k I wouldn't be surprised if Charleston is higher. But since weekends most of the fleet is resting, I feel that it kinda balances out especially since they have a lot of extra buses that don't need to be used outside of weekday rush hours. 

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On some routes like the B15 and Q35, were the overnight headways an hour? or that it changed b/c of improved ridership

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On 11/8/2019 at 8:27 PM, S78 via Hylan said:

Did they release a schedule to reflect the additional service?

 

On another note, it’s concerning that the 8000s are only a few years old and are already racking up so many miles. I wonder if maintenance on the island has improved.

No, it's all extra service. It won't be published. 

12 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

I'm honestly not surprised by the mileage thing with them 8000s. They literally run all day. 165k / 4yrs = 41250yr / 12mo = 3437 per mo. 3437 per month / 30 days = 114 per day / 24hrs = 4.77 an hour. Let's say a bus is out 16 hours a day...that's about 7 each hour. 

Good maths. The new Novas are between 11-15K for 4 months of service. 

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23 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

No, it's all extra service. It won't be published. 

Good maths. The new Novas are between 11-15K for 4 months of service. 

So would that mean that at some point in time the LFS’s in SI will be swapped out for LFS’s from other boroughs?

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45 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

2532, a prevost, is doing a run on the S59.

You might see a few of those running on the local routes until later this afternoon. 5th Avenue is closed due to the parade and plus I believe today is a regular weekday schedule. 

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With all of the tales that some of you could tell about your buses (roach infestations, customer destruction, busted seats), here's one to think about:

Friday night about 1:15 am, brand new bus picks me up 1 mile from south route terminal, on the 13-mile route journey. About 2 miles further, smell of diesel becomes stronger inside the bus. Only one other customer aboard, he gets off at mile 5. Operator shuts off the HVAC (Gillig sealed-windows "BRT" bus), so no air/heat circulation -- smell gets stronger. Bus operator stops at a light at midpoint of route and walks bus to check, says it's "hot diesel fumes", then said she noticed it starting about 1 hour before while halfway through her last run. Calls dispatch and tells them, I stood up by front door, and we got some sort of "fresh air" from her side window open as well as the nice breeze coming from under/sides of the front door. We get to the north terminal where I get off, tell her that they'll probably just tell her to do her last run and come back to the depot (since it's now 1:45, and she'd be back at the depot by 3:00) -- because it's that late.

Caught her doing her Saturday runs on another route, she said they actually brought out another bus and mechanic was sorta surprised until he walked to the back of the bus (really strong fumes there). Mechanic actually told her she should call off Saturday just because of the possibility of some sort of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Bus was under 2 weeks in service, and had relatively few revenue miles -- the majority of the vehicle's miles came from the cross-country trek from San Francisco to Detroit.

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13 minutes ago, DetSMART45 said:

With all of the tales that some of you could tell about your buses (roach infestations, customer destruction, busted seats), here's one to think about:

Friday night about 1:15 am, brand new bus picks me up 1 mile from south route terminal, on the 13-mile route journey. About 2 miles further, smell of diesel becomes stronger inside the bus. Only one other customer aboard, he gets off at mile 5. Operator shuts off the HVAC (Gillig sealed-windows "BRT" bus), so no air/heat circulation -- smell gets stronger. Bus operator stops at a light at midpoint of route and walks bus to check, says it's "hot diesel fumes", then said she noticed it starting about 1 hour before while halfway through her last run. Calls dispatch and tells them, I stood up by front door, and we got some sort of "fresh air" from her side window open as well as the nice breeze coming from under/sides of the front door. We get to the north terminal where I get off, tell her that they'll probably just tell her to do her last run and come back to the depot (since it's now 1:45, and she'd be back at the depot by 3:00) -- because it's that late.

Caught her doing her Saturday runs on another route, she said they actually brought out another bus and mechanic was sorta surprised until he walked to the back of the bus (really strong fumes there). Mechanic actually told her she should call off Saturday just because of the possibility of some sort of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Bus was under 2 weeks in service, and had relatively few revenue miles -- the majority of the vehicle's miles came from the cross-country trek from San Francisco to Detroit.

Next time, don't go for sealed windows, I guess...

That makes it sound like Gillig's just rushing the buses off the line, which certainly does no favors for any hopes of securing any MTA orders. (Yeah, it won't happen anyway, but yikes.)

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I think the newer XD-60s that the Q53 SBS currently use has a back camera that's near the usb/wifi patches. (6245, that is)

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MTA and DOT are testing a new real time E ink sign at Chambers St and Centre St on the M22.

The top half is a real time feed from BusTime and the bottom half alternates between a map of the route and real time alerts for that route.

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12 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

MTA and DOT are testing a new real time E ink sign at Chambers St and Centre St on the M22.

The top half is a real time feed from BusTime and the bottom half alternates between a map of the route and real time alerts for that route.

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This here is good innovation. Hopefully, we could see more of this soon in other boroughs. 

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That looks similar to the tech Seattle uses for their buses Downtown. I've seen them in action and it's pretty cool.

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Funny seeing OMNY readers (front, and mounts at the back) on even the old 66xx OGs out of Manhattanville now. Expansion coming!

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7 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

This here is good innovation. Hopefully, we could see more of this soon in other boroughs. 

I like that the model is called the RTS. Coincidence or the design team has a sense of humor and are busfans?

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8 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

This here is good innovation. Hopefully, we could see more of this soon in other boroughs. 

Yeah, and perhaps this can be more cost efficient than those bus stops with the countdown timers, while displaying more information. 

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8 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

That looks similar to the tech Seattle uses for their buses Downtown. I've seen them in action and it's pretty cool.

Just out of curiosity, would you happen to have a pic of these signs?

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