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1 hour ago, trainfan22 said:

I thought about suggesting the TA use the local buses on the express routes during this pandemic, to avoid contact with the driver. But two issues...

 

1)On a weekday schedule, there's probably not enough spare local buses to cover both local and express service, especially during rush hour. 

 

2) Express bus riders complaining about hard seat buses running on express routes. Listen, were in a pandemic, everybody in NYC has to make sacrifices due to this virus. Riding hard seat buses while the city is in shambles is no big deal. Me personally, I would just be happy a bus shows up at all.

Apparently next week or the one after will start a Emergency Sunday schedule, where certain routes that don't run on weekends would run their midday peak frequencies, there would be enough local buses to cover all express runs if needed. 

At this point no one should be complaining about seats as those buses are free, and only frequent essential riders should be using it anyways. 

49 minutes ago, aemoreira81 said:

I was going to ask that one...you have to have those buses wide open if you're going to run express duty, or at least set to 55. That bus looks as though it will do an entire shift.

As for the X27 and X28, if enough drivers are XD60 qualified, maybe the ex-Kingsbridge buses should run there instead, to promote social distancing?

Yeah there's certain Yukon buses that have their governors removed because of the S89. If they're removing more...I'm not sure at the moment. 

X27 and X28 operators would use XD40s, those routes definitely do not need artics in this situation. Also, I don't even think artics are at Ulmer Park since the conversion is delayed because of the virus closing schools (and almost everything now). 

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1 hour ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Apparently next week or the one after will start a Emergency Sunday schedule, where certain routes that don't run on weekends would run their midday peak frequencies, there would be enough local buses to cover all express runs if needed. 

At this point no one should be complaining about seats as those buses are free, and only frequent essential riders should be using it anyways. 

Yeah there's certain Yukon buses that have their governors removed because of the S89. If they're removing more...I'm not sure at the moment. 

X27 and X28 operators would use XD40s, those routes definitely do not need artics in this situation. Also, I don't even think artics are at Ulmer Park since the conversion is delayed because of the virus closing schools (and almost everything now). 

Ulmer still technically has the 4 artics. 4743-4745, 4756. 

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2 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

This post jumped the shark when you said the SIM1C and S79 should be combined, the hell with social distancing I guess?

With how low ridership is, that may not matter. Ridership on buses has crashed through the cellar.

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2 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

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That destination sign reading looks beautiful on the Novas. Nice and full and not split like on the Prevost. Here's a YouTube video: 

 

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Given how the express routes may use either standard units or articulated coaches within the next week or so, which buses are Liberty Lines Express going to use? Are they likely to get standard unit or articulated coaches from Jamaica Buses, Green Bus Lines, Triboro Coach, Command, New York Bus Service, or Queens Surface?

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20 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Bruh 2019 LFS 8609 is on the SIM1C!! I'm hearing they're about to start putting local buses on the express routes to avoid any contact with the drivers. 

 

Even though this is a crisis, some interesting things are happening across the city. Would love to see photos and videos but of course that's at your own risk. 

 

Edit: Governors are being disabled on the buses. 

 

14 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

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Somma yous found it.... I saw this on twitter.

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11 hours ago, 4 via Mosholu said:

Given how the express routes may use either standard units or articulated coaches within the next week or so, which buses are Liberty Lines Express going to use? Are they likely to get standard unit or articulated coaches from Jamaica Buses, Green Bus Lines, Triboro Coach, Command, New York Bus Service, or Queens Surface?

Haha, at first when you said Liberty Lines Express I thought you was talking about Bee Line which is also called Liberty Lines. Then I realized you are talking about Yonkers Depot.

 

I'm wondering the same thing, Yonkers has like 80 or 90 buses, it MIGHT be doable if they run a Sunday schedule during the week on express bus routes at Yonkers, and NYCT contributes some buses. There's also the issue of Yonkers drivers being trained on local bus equipment.

 

If local buses do run on express routes in the masses, the TA is baiting busfans like a mofo to break quarantine to go out and fan this lol. 

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Hard to believe the PBLs ended 14 years ago; seems like yesterday- I still remember Triboro Coach and their Orion V CNGs with the soft seats.  Best buses I ever rode in this city.  Too bad the MTA buses on local routes didn't have those seats.

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1 hour ago, R10 2952 said:

Hard to believe the PBLs ended 14 years ago; seems like yesterday- I still remember Triboro Coach and their Orion V CNGs with the soft seats.  Best buses I ever rode in this city.  Too bad the MTA buses on local routes didn't have those seats.

The Orion CNGs with soft seats operated on the local routes at SC in like 2009, 2010, use to ride them all the time at B100 & B103.  UP & QV operated RTSs with express bus seats on locals after the MCI's demoted them to local service. 

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38 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

The Orion CNGs with soft seats operated on the local routes at SC in like 2009, 2010, use to ride them all the time at B100 & B103.  UP & QV operated RTSs with express bus seats on locals after the MCI's demoted them to local service. 

I remember riding the RTS with the express seats when they used to put them on the B36 specials from my junior high school. My favorite seat was the double seat forward facing behind the rear door. 

I graduated from junior high school in 2011...so this was definitely 2009-2010 around that time.

Thats actually what made me get into transit. Riding the bus home, at the time I didn't know what nothing was called. I used to ride the typical B36 buses as normal...then when I noticed the different "meaner" sound some of those buses made, and how much faster they operated. I just kept Googling information. Eventually, I payed attention to the fleet numbers and realized buses that start with 8 and 9 are regular sounding and buses that begin with a 5 are the "mean" sounding ones. Turns out I was noticing the distinct sounds between the Allison transmission RTS and the ZF transmission RTS at Ulmer Park. 

I'd never forget the days I rode the B4 for the first time and those buses had the red stop request buttons. I thought those were emergency stop buttons and told my friends to be careful holding onto the poll so that they don't accidentally hit it😂. Good times. Then by 2010 I was aware of how buses worked, and had the time of my life when all of those new buses came in 2011, almost like a rush of excitement. I was chasing LFS, XD40s, Orion 3Gs, C40LFs all over South Brooklyn.

That was my transit spark.  

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During my QCC days, I’ve caught RTS bus #9250 twice. It had express seats. I’ve caught it on the Q43.

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It's real funny how the M55's current terminal was formerly an M6 short trip

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On 4/4/2020 at 5:07 PM, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Apparently next week or the one after will start a Emergency Sunday schedule, where certain routes that don't run on weekends would run their midday peak frequencies, there would be enough local buses to cover all express runs if needed. 

At this point no one should be complaining about seats as those buses are free, and only frequent essential riders should be using it anyways. 

Yeah there's certain Yukon buses that have their governors removed because of the S89. If they're removing more...I'm not sure at the moment. 

X27 and X28 operators would use XD40s, those routes definitely do not need artics in this situation. Also, I don't even think artics are at Ulmer Park since the conversion is delayed because of the virus closing schools (and almost everything now). 

As as essential hospital worker doing 12-15 hour shifts now to keep hospital equipment working, i gotta tell you that i really look forward to getting on those MCIs and passing out for 30 mins in the cushioned seats. I'm not saying a free ride on a local bus converted to express would be the worst thing, but those express buses really make a big difference to my crappy quality of life at the moment. Just my two cents. 

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I have been wondering for quite a while why MTA Bus 5386 (2014-15 XD60s, the first to get the Cuomo scheme) was put into service years later than its siblings.

I stumbled upon said bus on the Q10 back in 2016-2017, and it was brand spanking new, with the new bus smell, clean Cuomo decals, clean floors, and clean air filter.

Keep in mind that all the other XD60s that were running in MTA Bus (5364-5438) were in service for 2-3 years.

Was it involved in an accident at the factory and was to be sent last?

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14 minutes ago, MeeP15-9112 said:

I have been wondering for quite a while why MTA Bus 5386 (2014-15 XD60s, the first to get the Cuomo scheme) was put into service years later than its siblings.

I stumbled upon said bus on the Q10 back in 2016-2017, and it was brand spanking new, with the new bus smell, clean Cuomo decals, clean floors, and clean air filter.

Keep in mind that all the other XD60s that were running in MTA Bus (5364-5438) were in service for 2-3 years.

Was it involved in an accident at the factory and was to be sent last?

Sounds like it was a pilot bus for the new scheme at the very least

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In Queens, I have to wonder why the Q70 isn't down-sized to 2 articulated buses from the normal 5-6 buses on the route. As of this post, LGA is averaging about 18-19 movements per hour (at an airfield with a cap of 71 per hour) with abysmal load factors. Its only purpose is to serve LGA from Woodside and Jackson Heights. 

Likewise, for the B15 and Q10, I would argue that every other B15 to the airport and Q10 Limited terminate at Lefferts Boulevard AirTrain...except for times around shift changes. As for the Q3, I would argue for every other trip to terminate at Rockaway Boulevard. (This is where the JFK AirTrain should run limited service with three-car trains, every 15 minutes on each branch, with 2 car trains on the loop.)

If services need to be curtailed wholesale, in Brooklyn Division, I would argue for the B2, B6 (Limited only), B32, B35 (Limited only), B37, B41 (Bergen Beach beyond Empire Boulevard), B46 (SBS), B69, B84, and Q58 (Limited).The B46 would run the full distance with articulated buses (subject to availability), and whatever articulated buses are left over from the B35 after essential service is run would be placed on the B8, subject to availability (I'm not sure if an articulated bus could handle 71 Street in Bay Ridge).

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So this morning...1026 was on the Bx9, and 4669 was on the Bx28.

Now we got 6202 and 6220 on the Bx41 LOCAL. 

At this rate, we might see 2204 on the Q46. lmao

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10 minutes ago, NBTA said:

So this morning...1026 was on the Bx9, and 4669 was on the Bx28.

Now we got 6202 and 6220 on the Bx41 LOCAL. 

At this rate, we might see 2204 on the Q46. lmao

Looks like the Bronx is getting a ton of loans.

LFSA 5524 is on the Bx1, 5596 was on the Bx12 SBS, 6057 is on the Bx28, and a few more

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51 minutes ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

Looks like the Bronx is getting a ton of loans.

LFSA 5524 is on the Bx1, 5596 was on the Bx12 SBS, 6057 is on the Bx28, and a few more

Me sitting here waiting for 7604 to re-appear on the Bx3 (I live on the line so a pic wouldn't hurt).

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Currently, the B100 is running every 20 minutes between the Kings Hwy Station and E.66 St / Strickland Av. The peak 5 min headways aren't running till the situation is resolved. 

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Also, Quill’s got some of their SBS wrapped buses strategically parked along the Bx12 and Bx41 as gap buses.

Man, how’d it take a state of emergency for NYCT to do something they should always be doing for those two routes?

Anyways, that’s it for my essential food shopping trip of the week. Stay safe folks.

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1 hour ago, paulrivera said:

Also, Quill’s got some of their SBS wrapped buses strategically parked along the Bx12 and Bx41 as gap buses.

Man, how’d it take a state of emergency for NYCT to do something they should always be doing for those two routes?

Anyways, that’s it for my essential food shopping trip of the week. Stay safe folks.

Glad that the Manhattan Division and Queens Division are helping out The Bronx for a bit. 

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