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Headline: Amazon warehouse packers say they’re jammed onto staten island buses

 

Recently, most S40 buses are packed to/from the warehouse terminal

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10 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

West Farms has covered both the Bx1 and the Bx2.

 

20 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

Actually, some of those Manhattan trips actually DO make the whole trip. Today's Bx12 SBS MJQ runs (#6107 and #6227) went from Bay Plaza to Inwood, and started again at Fordham Plaza heading Bay Plaza. But yeah, most of them are short turns.

 

If I could fix your list up a bit, the typical weekday trips actually look like this:

Bx1/Bx2 (MJQ) - Mott Haven to and from Fordham Rd 

Bx3 (MHV, MJQ) - Washington Heights to and from Kingsbridge Road (a few trips go up to Riverdale)

Bx4 / A (WF) - Usually interlines with the Bx40 / 42 trips

Bx9 (WF, MCH, OH) - West Farms / Riverdale to and from 225th Street & Bway (The trips will often run from either end of the route to 225th and then go back, or will just make the entire trip)

Bx12 / SBS  (MJQ, MHV) - Usually make the whole trip but some trips end at University Avenue or Fordham Plaza 

Bx15 (WF, OH) - 149 st to and from Fordham plaza 

Bx28 (MHV, MCH) - Co-Op City to and from Norwood, with some trips going all the way to Fordham Center (the first day these loans started, an XD60 from OH ran on the line)

Bx41 / SBS (WF, MCH) - 149st to and from Fordham Plaza

Bx40 / 42 (WF) - Whole route

 

The weekend loans are a lot more interesting. One weekend, Staten Island did some trips. Another weekend it was Manhattan, and last weekend it was West Farms (an XN40 ran on the Bx7 and on the Bx28).

So is this why there have been WAY less VII OGs on MHV and MCH routes (it's mainly been NGs)

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9 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

 

So is this why there have been WAY less VII OGs on MHV and MCH routes (it's mainly been NGs)

Not really. MHV only has 38 OG’s compared to 200 NG’s. Quill only have 26 and they have been using mostly NG’s and XD40’s for most of those runs. Hale’s amount are around the same with slightly more NG’s.

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There's less OGs on the streets of Manhattan because a majority of them have not been modified for the rear doors to open like the NGs and the XD40s, and with the reduced schedule, there's not much of a need for them. All of Quill's 6700s are OOS. All of JFK's 6500s/6600s are OOS. A handful of 6600s and 6700s are OOS at MHV, same for hale with their 6700s.

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1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

There's less OGs on the streets of Manhattan because a majority of them have not been modified for the rear doors to open like the NGs and the XD40s, and with the reduced schedule, there's not much of a need for them. All of Quill's 6700s are OOS. All of JFK's 6500s/6600s are OOS. A handful of 6600s and 6700s are OOS at MHV, same for hale with their 6700s.

Interesting, you can't just the twist the door controls to position 3 on the OGs to hold the rear door open? I guess maybe I'm thinking of the RTS on idle.

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10 minutes ago, MHV9218 said:

Interesting, you can't just the twist the door controls to position 3 on the OGs to hold the rear door open? I guess maybe I'm thinking of the RTS on idle.


I'm not completely sure, but that's what I heard.

When I rode the Q24 during the beginning of rear-door boarding, people had to open the rear doors by themselves and the operator said that he couldn't have it open automatically unless it went on idle.

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50 minutes ago, MHV9218 said:

Interesting, you can't just the twist the door controls to position 3 on the OGs to hold the rear door open? I guess maybe I'm thinking of the RTS on idle.

I rode 6782 last night. It had the doors automatically opening. And iirc all post 2002 buses were able to accomplish the same.

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1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:


I'm not completely sure, but that's what I heard.

When I rode the Q24 during the beginning of rear-door boarding, people had to open the rear doors by themselves and the operator said that he couldn't have it open automatically unless it went on idle.

to my knowledge, what it is with some of the older (OG/NG hybrid) buses (some RTS's/D60HF's suffered from the same affliction when the older they got) is that the PUSH-TAPE OVERRIDE isn't working. the push-tape override is a switch which allows the B/O to automatically control the rear door identical to the front. it may be the electrical wiring that operates the doors has given out... which wouldn't be a surprise to me, to be honest. the OG's & NG's electrical wiring are known to short out (headlights, running/clearance lights, run boxes, taillights) 

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Buses currently OOS since March up to April 15th in Manhattan in no particular order.(OH will be added later, I gotta go to work.)

MHV: 4092, 6716, 6696, 6726, 3867, 6692, 4340, 6710, 4041, 4396, 4263, 4275, 3873, 4401, 4346, 4364, 3961, 4057, 3869, 4084, 4000, 4361, 3874, 4264, 4075, 4010, 4694, 6707, 6699, 4277, 4353, 3971, 4003, 4270, 3950, 3864, 4267, 6705, 6715, 4088, 4273, 3875, 4343, 4095, 3967, 4009, 6702, 4254, 6709, 4019, 6725, 6693, 3861

Hale: 6198, 6151(Vendor, I think that's an accident bus), 6125, 6762, 6782, 6093, 6213, 6199, 6091, 6212, 6208, 3892, 6757, 6783, 6156, 6776, 6772, 6766, 6755, 4276, 6784, 6788, 6768, 6763, 6160.

MQ: 3907(OOS since February, not sure what happened), 4951(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4953, 4954(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4956, 4957(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4958, 4959(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4960(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4962(vendor, assigned at Quill), 12, 6729-6754, 4119, 3823, 5490, 5586, 5592, 3917, 6166, 6188, 5508, 4137, 4125, 5496, 5494, 6108, 3942, 3801, 6100, 5492, 5594, 6099, 5493, 6106, 5523, 5515, 3913, 3818, 3914, 4115, 3800, 3804, 3916, 3915, 3822, 3910, 5495, 5571, 5491, 6098(vendor), 5596, 5507, 5489, 5598.

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2 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

Buses currently OOS since March up to April 15th in Manhattan in no particular order.(OH will be added later, I gotta go to work.)

MHV: 4092, 6716, 6696, 6726, 3867, 6692, 4340, 6710, 4041, 4396, 4263, 4275, 3873, 4401, 4346, 4364, 3961, 4057, 3869, 4084, 4000, 4361, 3874, 4264, 4075, 4010, 4694, 6707, 6699, 4277, 4353, 3971, 4003, 4270, 3950, 3864, 4267, 6705, 6715, 4088, 4273, 3875, 4343, 4095, 3967, 4009, 6702, 4254, 6709, 4019, 6725, 6693, 3861

Hale: 6198, 6151(Vendor, I think that's an accident bus), 6125, 6762, 6782, 6093, 6213, 6199, 6091, 6212, 6208, 3892, 6757, 6783, 6156, 6776, 6772, 6766, 6755, 4276, 6784, 6788, 6768, 6763, 6160.

MQ: 3907(OOS since February, not sure what happened), 4951(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4953, 4954(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4956, 4957(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4958, 4959(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4960(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4962(vendor, assigned at Quill), 12, 6729-6754, 4119, 3823, 5490, 5586, 5592, 3917, 6166, 6188, 5508, 4137, 4125, 5496, 5494, 6108, 3942, 3801, 6100, 5492, 5594, 6099, 5493, 6106, 5523, 5515, 3913, 3818, 3914, 4115, 3800, 3804, 3916, 3915, 3822, 3910, 5495, 5571, 5491, 6098(vendor), 5596, 5507, 5489, 5598.

Take 5507 out the list. Saw that in service earlier today on the M23.  This was roughly around 6:00PM heading towards the pier. 

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2 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

Take 5507 out the list. Saw that in service earlier today on the M23.  This was roughly around 6:00PM heading towards the pier. 

What you saw was 5597. Run 8 on the M23, I saw it earlier too.

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8 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

I wonder if the 2014-2015 New Flyer XD40's are falling under the new 6 year repaint cycle, because if that's the case... Ulmer Park's XD40's really gonna need some TLC...

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Send it back to East New York. They will bring that bus back to new life. 😂

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10 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

I wonder if the 2014-2015 New Flyer XD40's are falling under the new 6 year repaint cycle, because if that's the case... Ulmer Park's XD40's really gonna need some TLC...

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7148 already been repainted, so its time. 

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On 5/1/2020 at 3:11 PM, Calvin said:

https://thecity.nyc/2020/04/amazon-warehouse-packers-in-staten-island-jam-onto-mta-buses.html?fbclid=IwAR1ILxyBjjDczbGv17QbE-pUtQOc4UVcPdHGJ0pA257IdTTHFSqTZH3sSYI

Headline: Amazon warehouse packers say they’re jammed onto staten island buses

 

Recently, most S40 buses are packed to/from the warehouse terminal

They should be careful what they ask for.... My cousin (who got transferred from LGA9 to JFK8) would tell me about the shuttle VANS that Amazon supplied... Apparently, they ran whenever they wanted to & were often late.... I don't remember where she said they ran from though.... Funny how LGA9 got shuttles, but EWR5 didn't though....

 

edit: my fault... LGA9 is Edison, JFK8 is Staten Island, & EWR5 is the one in Avenel.

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15 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

I wonder if the 2014-2015 New Flyer XD40's are falling under the new 6 year repaint cycle, because if that's the case... Ulmer Park's XD40's really gonna need some TLC...

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Not surprised  that this ex ENY unit looks like this I've said this many times how bad Ulmer Park been getting with maintenance it's  ridiculous  pior to how these buses are still young and look like that... I mean for a depot that's 90% X equipment  you would think they would handle this better but nope. I'm just waiting to see how the artics comes into place when they get more that's  all I gotta say.

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14 minutes ago, Ultimategamer12c said:

Not surprised  that this ex ENY unit looks like this I've said this many times how bad Ulmer Park been getting with maintenance it's  ridiculous  pior to how these buses are still young and look like that... I mean for a depot that's 90% X equipment  you would think they would handle this better but nope. I'm just waiting to see how the artics comes into place when they get more that's  all I gotta say.

5 years isn't that young.....that's almost halfway through their life cycle.

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I rode the S79-SBS yesterday, I have to say it actually is pretty quick (though it can be busy depending on the time, PM rush hour is something you should avoid). Generally, it can take about 45 to 60 minutes from SI Mall to Bay Ridge 86th Street. 

Though, without a doubt, the fastest way to get to Brooklyn is the S93 but due the the pandemic it isn't running unfortunately. It leaves with me with either the S53, which is faster than the S79-SBS as I live closer to it but it is pretty boring to ride. 

Change of topic here;

When I lived in Brooklyn, I lived close by the B35 which, before Jackie Gleason was bestowed the XN60 articulated buses, I'm pretty sure it only ran C40LF's. Even earlier, it had Orion VII's which operated both the local and limited B35. I never expected such an articulated bus to jump on this route, what a change of equipment. Though, it makes sense, this route always had high ridership, I can recall a time where a bus on the B35 was so packed that, per policy, it had to skip stops until the bus acquired some reasonable space. People stuck onto the doors of the bus just so they can get on, I think someone's face was even pushed onto the door, there was absolutely no space.

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14 hours ago, MTADieselBuses said:

Change of topic here;

When I lived in Brooklyn, I lived close by the B35 which, before Jackie Gleason was bestowed the XN60 articulated buses, I'm pretty sure it only ran C40LF's. Even earlier, it had Orion VII's which operated both the local and limited B35. I never expected such an articulated bus to jump on this route, what a change of equipment. Though, it makes sense, this route always had high ridership, I can recall a time where a bus on the B35 was so packed that, per policy, it had to skip stops until the bus acquired some reasonable space. People stuck onto the doors of the bus just so they can get on, I think someone's face was even pushed onto the door, there was absolutely no space.

Even with the articulated buses they could get pretty packed if buses were delayed due to traffic on Church Ave. Happened to me coming down the line a handful of times. I usually get turned around at Kings Highway if it was really bad.

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1 hour ago, MTADieselBuses said:

So even with articulates and buses running in 5-10 minute intervals during rush hours, we still get packed buses? Poor Church Avenue.

 

Problem is there's gaps of up to 35-40 minutes elsewhere. 

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Whats going on folks. Its been a hot minute since I have posted on the nyct forum. Was on quarantined status and now I'm fully back to work.

B41 today had 2 wild cats service where Articulated buses were in service doing passenger pickups from Kings plaza to Downtown Brooklyn and to Bergen Beach. Expect to see articulated buses at certain time of the day when operation expects more rider ships during certain time peak.

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